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apballin 08-05-2019 12:52 AM

Well TY Hilton stole the show, dude was killing it out there today

Other than that nothing stood out but there was NO— Leonard, Moore, Campbell

Walker was playing OLB, I like that okreke looked fast out there so I’m all for a Leonard- okreke- Walker LB core

Hines was back there fielding punts

Also I was watching practice thinking dam I’m glad they didn’t trade brisset

And Hunt is a monster out there

Finally grand park is nice but I’d honestly rather just go to Lucas oil and watch the practices

YDFL Commish 08-05-2019 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 125103)
Walker was playing OLB, I like that okreke looked fast out there so I’m all for a Leonard- okreke- Walker LB core


My bet is that Speed wins the SAM spot.

Chromeburn 08-05-2019 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 125103)
Well TY Hilton stole the show, dude was killing it out there today

Other than that nothing stood out but there was NO— Leonard, Moore, Campbell

Walker was playing OLB, I like that okreke looked fast out there so I’m all for a Leonard- okreke- Walker LB core

Hines was back there fielding punts

Also I was watching practice thinking dam I’m glad they didn’t trade brisset

And Hunt is a monster out there

Finally grand park is nice but I’d honestly rather just go to Lucas oil and watch the practices

My guess is they are getting the guys familiar with all positions in their group in case they have injuries and to help sow confusion in presnap reads. "Walker is a MIKE always right? No wait, now he is at WILL. ...Now he is at Nickle." Ebuflus' system of responsibilities is simple for the player, but his personnel groups have a lot of similar built athletes that can fulfill multiple tasks on the defense. Making pre-snap reads difficult, which is key to disrupting the best QB's. Looks at what Wade Phillips defenses do to Brady. Kinda reminds me in concept of Buddy Ryan's old 46 defense. That is completely different in execution, but you would have 10 guys near the line of scrimmage and you wouldn't always know what those guys were doing except the FS who was always covering the deep pass. Pre-snap reads are so important now, also the coach is in the QB's ear till the cut off point. Disguising what is happening is so important, especially with something based on the old cover-2 where responsibilities are simple.

I read something today that said the WR competition is fierce. On any given day one of the WRs is making plays Veasy, Hogan, Ishmael, Mojo, Fountain, Cain, Pascal, Rogers. They are going to have a tough time cutting them down.

Chromeburn 08-05-2019 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 125071)
Is there anyone other than Chester who can reliably catch a punt?

Reliably, I don't think so.

Catching and returning punts is becoming a lost art. Colleges don't use their best guys to do it anymore. And college teams have so many scholarship players they can find a guy who does it well keeping their best players free for the offense.

And of course its the best guys that get drafted. NFL rosters are so small they don't have that luxury. Unless you're the best on your NFL team, you will have to play special teams, but the player probably hasn't played special teams since middle school. If you are a good player, and you have special teams experience, it may actually help you make a roster.

Same concept of why Cambell was playing outside receiver. Cambell could do it, and he could run the whole route tree if they worked on it with him. But he played the slot so well and he did those plays so well, why move him? They also had good guys that could play the outside effectively. College specializes their players more, but the NFL requires versatility.

JAFF 08-05-2019 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 125149)
Reliably, I don't think so.

Catching and returning punts is becoming a lost art. Colleges don't use their best guys to do it anymore. And college teams have so many scholarship players they can find a guy who does it well keeping their best players free for the offense.

And of course its the best guys that get drafted. NFL rosters are so small they don't have that luxury. Unless your the best on your team, you have to play special teams, but they probably haven't played special teams since middle school. If you are a good player, and you have special teams experience, it may actually help you make a roster.

Same concept of why Cambell was playing outside receiver. Cambell could do it, and he could run the whole route tree if they worked on it with him. But he played the slot so well and he did those plays so well, why move him? They also had good guys that could play the outside effectively. College specializes their players more, but the NFL requires versatility.

Im so old I remember when the LA Rams used a full back as their punt returner. I think his name was Bertlsen. Not a lot of moves but he ran over a few dbs.

Chromeburn 08-05-2019 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 125155)
Im so old I remember when the LA Rams used a full back as their punt returner. I think his name was Bertlsen. Not a lot of moves but he ran over a few dbs.

I would love to see that. Last great FB was Alstott, wish the position was still around.

apballin 08-05-2019 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 125125)
My bet is that Speed wins the SAM spot.

I don’t know what to make of Speed looks like he’s stuck in between not big enough to play d-line and too long and lanky to be a LB

Thorgrim 08-05-2019 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 125155)
Im so old I remember when the LA Rams used a full back as their punt returner. I think his name was Bertlsen. Not a lot of moves but he ran over a few dbs.

Jim Bertelson. Your ancient.

smitty46953 08-05-2019 10:11 PM

I remember Jim Bertelson was a running back who played for Darrell Royal at Texas in early 70's :eek:

YDFL Commish 08-06-2019 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 125218)
I don’t know what to make of Speed looks like he’s stuck in between not big enough to play d-line and too long and lanky to be a LB

I believe that you may be talking about Banogu.

Chromeburn 08-06-2019 12:51 PM

Some camp updates from Kevan Bowen

Day 8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4zhP1fOziU

Day 9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZEU_Z2zWwU

Day 10
https://www.1075thefan.com/blogs/kev...continues-show

Notice Fountain has his best week of work. Rogers is steady and consistent. Leonard had some back spasms. TY Hilton is still great.

Fountain catch

Chromeburn 08-12-2019 10:53 AM

If you have Sirius XM, NFL radio is at Colts camp all day today. The 12th.

TheMugwump 08-12-2019 12:20 PM

Thanks man. I kept hearing them from other camps, and was wondering when they'd get to the Colts'.

Chromeburn 08-12-2019 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMugwump (Post 125919)
Thanks man. I kept hearing them from other camps, and was wondering when they'd get to the Colts'.

Np, I guess it isn't all day though. 3-6.

Mon, Aug. 12: Indianapolis Colts, Westfield, IN
3-6pm, Hosts: Jeff Rickard and Bill Polian

Luck4Reich 08-13-2019 06:31 AM

Keep hearing how the Defense is dominating a lot in practice. While it sounds great, can’t help to wonder how much of it is because Brisset just isn’t very good. The team saying he has too much value to trade away baffles me. If a team is willing to give us some value please let him go! If Luck is out for any extended time we are not winning anything with Brisset.

Luck4Reich 08-13-2019 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 124014)
And Deon Cain starts his campaign as the greatest receiver to ever play the game.

Didn’t Deon Cain play Superman in a TV series? :p

Chromeburn 08-15-2019 01:34 PM

Colts Browns joint practice is on day two. Camp will end after it concludes. I guess Baker Mayfield was tearing it up at first then the guys settled down and started making plays. Brisset started doing well and the defense started making plays.

Article

Kevin Bowen Update

Chromeburn 08-15-2019 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Luck4Reich (Post 125996)
Didn’t Deon Cain play Superman in a TV series? :p

Smallville? No he wasn't in it, it was just based on his life.

Luck4Reich 08-16-2019 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 126294)
Smallville? No he wasn't in it, it was just based on his life.

I guess I’m just old... Dean Cain the actor played in a tv series as super man long before Smallville came out.
It was called The adventures of Lois and Clark I believe. Didn’t do to well if I remember.


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