I think Ballard he would agree with you also

Compare:
2017 top 3 (Hooker, Wilson, Basham)
to
2018 top 3 (Nelson, Leonard, Smith)

There is reason for optimism.

In 2017, Ballard was able to get a solid starter in Hooker, a depth player in Wilson and well, kinda missed on Basham. I was pretty high on Basham though and thought he would have a break out preseason. This is a pretty good showing under conditions that might be less than ideal.

Under conditions he was in control of, he transforms the team in three picks. This is the kind of vision we need in a GM... at least until he proves otherwise.

Looking around at some of this draft stuff and I came across this SI article that was an initial "draft grade" for each pick. This was from April 2018.

Quentin Nelson = D+
Darius Leonard = B
Braden Smith = D-


https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/04/26/in...ections-grades

Harkens back to the days of Polian's best drafts with the Colts. Low "graded" productive drafts are the best.

To be fair they did not give the low grade based on the talent of the players but on the positional value of Nelson and then taking Smith in the 2nd after taking Nelson 6th overall. It seems obnoxious to devalue either pick that much.

Positional value. That varies from team to team. Was there a team in more “need” for O linemen than the Colts? Anyone that argues that he Colts didnt get “value” for Nelson hasnt seen him play. Same nonsense about drafting Freeney too early.

Nelson has to have a John Hannah like career to make the pick work for value. If the 200 yard rushing games and lowest sack rate in the league continue, he may get there, but that doesn't make it not a risky bet.

Not if he keeps Luck off his back and the injury report for the next ten years.

I think I'm losing my mind, but help me out here. Who the fuck was John Hannah?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_H...rican_football)

He can't do that by himself.

Heck no! But if he does his part...

I guess what if Nelson has 8 solid years with us. He doesn't have to be the second best ol of all time to have value. Chubb is 20 spots behind Leonard in tackles, barkley is just ahead of turay with 50% more snaps than turay gets.

I'm just not seeing any opportunity cost that Ballard has actually paid. It's very hard to deny that he crushed the 2018 draft.

I guess it was hard for me to justify that if the 6th overall pick isn't the second best of all time in his position, then it's therefore valueless. That just doesn't make sense to me.

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Every first round pick is risky. And its horseshit argument he has to get into the hall of fame. He plays 10 years as a starter the team got its moneys worth.

Its called google

Hes ranked right there with anthony munoz, heard of him?

Really? Put him next to kelly and costanzo and they can run left all day long. Look at the line right now. They have 4 guys for the next 5 years facing some very good D lines in the conference.

Neither can Andrew Luck.



<mic drop>

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He was a steal at 6.

Well, it's Dam you're talking about.

Yes I have, just didn't remember Hannah, and by the way I hate fucking Google .

There are other search engines and resources to easily find simple info on the interwebs.

we're not done with getting players from the Jets trade. We have an extra #2 (37th overall) in the upcoming draft. That's a total of 3 players in the top 37 of the choices.

Why would you hate google?

He thinks it is a dirty sex term

I asked google and got this:

https://www.google.com/search?q=is+g...hrome&ie=UTF-8

I thought it was a sex term the first time I heard it. As in, "he drove his emense GOOGLE into to her until she GOOGLED

That was stupid

which is why I thought you would enjoy it

Guess I should have said it's not my preference . Opinions are like assholes every motherfuckers got one. Right?

We'll see how the Jets finish. That pick is currently #39, but they have two games left against Buffalo. It could be more like #45 by the end of the season.

Still top 50.