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Oldcolt 03-02-2018 11:19 AM
The issue I have is that there appear to be 4 players at the top of the draft with a dropoff afterwards. We need help at all four positions. To me it seems to depend on what is available after these 4. It seems that rb and guard are deep in this draft according to 'experts'. If I add that to what Polian once said (never pass on a qb or a pass rusher) I'm pulling for Chubb. If he is off the board then I hope it's Barkley. I'm hoping free agency can help with the interior line. We are on our way boys and girls. This is going to be a fun ride. Go Colts!!

Indiana V2 03-02-2018 08:27 PM
Listening to the radio today there's a lot of people saying that they think the Browns will take Barkley first overall.

rcubed 03-02-2018 08:35 PM
ok, lets say barkley and chubb go 1-2 and no one wants to trade up to 3 who do you take then?

nelson?
fitzpatric?

Dam8610 03-02-2018 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Indiana V2 (Post 57437)
Listening to the radio today there's a lot of people saying that they think the Browns will take Barkley first overall.
I somewhat hope they do. If the top 2 picks are:

1) Barkley
2) Nelson

The Colts would essentially have the ability to auction off the #1 pick with all the QBs left on the board. At that point, unless the Browns sign Cousins between now and then, dropping down to 5 or 6 and making the Broncos or Jets pay a king's ransom to get their QB of choice while still getting Chubb makes all the sense in the world.

DrSpaceman 03-03-2018 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 57439)
ok, lets say barkley and chubb go 1-2 and no one wants to trade up to 3 who do you take then?

nelson?
fitzpatric?
I'd go Nelson then if you truly can't take down.

I know its high for a OG, but it is a position of need and does solidify the line quite a bit. If you have a middle of Kelley, Nelson and Mewhort with Castonzo at one tackle, that's the best OL the COlts have had in about a decade.

DrSpaceman 03-03-2018 08:27 PM
I know it won't happen, but someone on the all knowing powerhouse of ideas of facebook suggested :

What if the Browns offer the 1 and 4 for Luck, Colts keep the third, then the Colts draft Barkely, Chubb and a QB at 1, 3 and 4.

It won't happen, but I did have to admit it was an interesting idea.

YDFL Commish 03-03-2018 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 57536)
I know it won't happen, but someone on the all knowing powerhouse of ideas of facebook suggested :

What if the Browns offer the 1 and 4 for Luck, Colts keep the third, then the Colts draft Barkely, Chubb and a QB at 1, 3 and 4.

It won't happen, but I did have to admit it was an interesting idea.
They would have to offer more.

Butter 03-03-2018 09:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 57440)
I somewhat hope they do. If the top 2 picks are:

1) Barkley
2) Nelson

The Colts would essentially have the ability to auction off the #1 pick with all the QBs left on the board. At that point, unless the Browns sign Cousins between now and then, dropping down to 5 or 6 and making the Broncos or Jets pay a king's ransom to get their QB of choice while still getting Chubb makes all the sense in the world.
I would be ok with that. If not trading down I prefer CHubb, but I have to admit being a bit more interested in Barkley after those combine numbers.

jasperhobbs 03-04-2018 09:07 AM
There is no way Barkley falls to number 3 in the draft. I bet the Browns take him at number 1 and then pick QB at number 4.

1965southpaw 03-04-2018 01:55 PM
good article on various free agent options..........

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-fre...170112159.html

Dam8610 03-05-2018 01:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 57439)
ok, lets say barkley and chubb go 1-2 and no one wants to trade up to 3 who do you take then?

nelson?
fitzpatric?
I can't imagine no team in the league would want their choice of QB in this draft and be willing to pay a hefty price for that, but if that somehow happened, there'd be a few defenders I'd consider there, and you might even consider playing chicken with the rest of the league by drafting a QB and forcing teams to come to you.

Dam8610 03-05-2018 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 57538)
They would have to offer more.
Yeah, I'd need their 2019 and 2020 1s to trade Luck and take a chance on Rosen or Darnold busting.

Colts And Orioles 03-05-2018 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Swing4DaFences (Post 56933)



If Saquon is available at 3, I’d take him. I think he’s a generational talent that would make everything else easier on offense. I would take him over 2 solid O-linemen, because I think his talent cannot be taught, while many big solid college linemen can be developed through good NFL coaching.

If Saquon is not available, at 3 that’s actually even better. That would mean one of the marquee QB’s is on the board, and someone will give you a first rounder this year and next, along with a 2nd or 3rd this year. I would take that ransom over Bradley Chubb. I have nothing bad to say about Chubb, except that picking him straight up at 3 is probably our worst outcome in my opinion. We are switching to a 4-3, we have new coaches and a no-name defense, and I just can’t see even a very talented pass rusher making a Freeney-esque impact for several years.

Frank Reich is an offensive guy and I say you stack him with weapons first, and see if you can get a big defensive steal later in the draft. Mathis, Bethea, Bob Sanders, Cato, Thornton, Brackett- none of those guys were first round picks, but you’re not going to find Luck-like offensive talent outside of the first or 2nd rounds.
o


Bradley Chubb's Passion to Be Like Khalil Mack and Von Miller is What the Colts Need

(By Mike Wells)

http://www.espn.com/blog/indianapoli...s-need-at-no-3


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VeveJones007 03-06-2018 11:55 AM
Ed Edholm from PFW had this thought if no QBs go 1-2:

Quote:
Just spitballing here: If Browns pass on QB at 1, Colts GM Chris Ballard could seize an opportunity to offer 3 to Browns the way 49ers did with Bears last year.

That's assuming Giants don't go QB at 2, which I don't think they will. Colts could get their man at 4 and add picks.

VeveJones007 03-06-2018 11:57 AM
Matt Miller’s latest mock has Colts going Chubb, Sony Michel, and WR Dante Pettis in first three rounds.

Dam8610 03-06-2018 12:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 57772)
Ed Edholm from PFW had this thought if no QBs go 1-2:
Too many good QBs for one to not go 1 or 2, but even if that's the case, I think the Colts stay put or trade back. I think the Colts still get Chubb at 4, 5, or 6 and could start a bidding war between the Browns, Jets, and Broncos for their QB of choice, especially if the Browns go Barkley at 1 and Cousins signs with Minnesota.

FatDT 03-06-2018 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 57773)
Matt Miller’s latest mock has Colts going Chubb, Sony Michel, and WR Dante Pettis in first three rounds.
I would be pretty happy with the first two. Chubb is a given. Michel didn't run very fast but I still like his game. Dunno anything about Pettis and would rather take a LB in the 3rd.

VeveJones007 03-06-2018 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 57780)
I would be pretty happy with the first two. Chubb is a given. Michel didn't run very fast but I still like his game. Dunno anything about Pettis and would rather take a LB in the 3rd.
Based on recent mocks, it seems like the Colts will get really good value with their second pick. Michel would be a really solid pick.

DragonTails 03-06-2018 06:45 PM
I wish we could some how get Chubb and Nelson. Hell, we gave up a first round for freaking TR.

Getting these 2 players would turn this team around in the right direction.

omahacolt 03-06-2018 09:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 57773)
Matt Miller’s latest mock has Colts going Chubb, Sony Michel, and WR Dante Pettis in first three rounds.
I hope not

Dam8610 03-06-2018 10:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 57773)
Matt Miller’s latest mock has Colts going Chubb, Sony Michel, and WR Dante Pettis in first three rounds.
I'd hope for Chubb, Vander Esch...I don't really care who the 3rd round pick is at that point, I'd be happy with those two.

YDFL Commish 03-06-2018 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 57870)
I hope not
Not a Sony Michel fan?

VeveJones007 03-06-2018 11:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 57884)
I'd hope for Chubb, Vander Esch...I don't really care who the 3rd round pick is at that point, I'd be happy with those two.
Miller has Vander Esch off the board in the 1st.

VeveJones007 03-06-2018 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 57886)
Not a Sony Michel fan?
I think he would be the best RB Indy has had since Edge. That isn’t really saying a lot, but I think he’s really damn good.

DragonTails 03-06-2018 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 57889)
I think he would be the best RB Indy has had since Edge. That isn’t really saying a lot, but I think he’s really damn good.

We don't need skill positions from the draft this year. We need oline, dline, LB.

VeveJones007 03-07-2018 02:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DragonTails (Post 57891)
We don't need skill positions from the draft this year. We need oline, dline, LB.
It depends on who is available at 2.04. Michel very well may be BPA and can have a Kamara-like impact. He might be the best value.

Racehorse 03-10-2018 05:36 PM
https://www.stampedeblue.com/2018/3/...he-last-minute

Ballard is so open to trading the pick that he'll keep the phone line open til the clock almost runs out.

YDFL Commish 03-10-2018 07:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DragonTails (Post 57891)
We don't need skill positions from the draft this year. We need oline, dline, LB.
No skill positions at all? We have no WR's past Hilton and Rogers. We have 1 proven TE.

I understand that LB, OL and pass rush are the biggest needs, but you can't pick worser players, when the more better players might be skill position players.

I don't want to start rookie OL. That's why, I say load up the truck for Norwell and then pick developmental G or T.

VeveJones007 03-16-2018 04:06 PM
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With the Vikings getting Cousins, I'm wondering if it might be a viable scenario for the Colts to move back to #6 and still get Chubb.

1) QB1 - Browns
2) Barkley - Giants
3) QB2 - Jets
4) Fitzpatrick - Browns (or Bills trade up for QB3)
5) QB3/4, Fitzpatrick, Nelson - Broncos
6) Chubb - Colts

Biggest question mark is what happens a 4 &5. If things worked out this way, Colts could get Chubb and add at least pick #37.

YDFL Commish 03-16-2018 06:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 59613)
With the Vikings getting Cousins, I'm wondering if it might be a viable scenario for the Colts to move back to #6 and still get Chubb.

1) QB1 - Browns
2) Barkley - Giants
3) QB2 - Jets
4) Fitzpatrick - Browns (or Bills trade up for QB3)
5) QB3/4, Fitzpatrick, Nelson - Broncos
6) Chubb - Colts

Biggest question mark is what happens a 4 &5. If things worked out this way, Colts could get Chubb and add at least pick #37.
It would indicate to me that Elway is a moron.

Dam8610 03-16-2018 06:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 59613)
With the Vikings getting Cousins, I'm wondering if it might be a viable scenario for the Colts to move back to #6 and still get Chubb.

1) QB1 - Browns
2) Barkley - Giants
3) QB2 - Jets
4) Fitzpatrick - Browns (or Bills trade up for QB3)
5) QB3/4, Fitzpatrick, Nelson - Broncos
6) Chubb - Colts

Biggest question mark is what happens a 4 &5. If things worked out this way, Colts could get Chubb and add at least pick #37.
I've said for a while that the "Trade down and still get Chubb" sweepstakes is a 2 or 3 team race with the Broncos and Jets involved, and maybe the Browns if they take Barkley at 1. Can't trade back past Tampa though, they'd take Chubb.

Racehorse 03-17-2018 07:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 59613)
With the Vikings getting Cousins, I'm wondering if it might be a viable scenario for the Colts to move back to #6 and still get Chubb.

1) QB1 - Browns
2) Barkley - Giants
3) QB2 - Jets
4) Fitzpatrick - Browns (or Bills trade up for QB3)
5) QB3/4, Fitzpatrick, Nelson - Broncos
6) Chubb - Colts

Biggest question mark is what happens a 4 &5. If things worked out this way, Colts could get Chubb and add at least pick #37.
Nostradamus?

omahacolt 03-17-2018 07:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 57886)
Not a Sony Michel fan?
I Am a build the lines and defense guy. A rb and wr in the 2nd and 3rd is not my ideal draft

Butter 03-17-2018 08:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 59905)
I Am a build the lines and defense guy. A rb and wr in the 2nd and 3rd is not my ideal draft
I agree, Build the lines and the rest will follow. Franchise QB is clealy the first thing, but we have that.

Dam8610 03-17-2018 08:25 PM
My guess is:

1) Browns - QB1
2) Giants - QB2
3) Jets - QB3
4) Browns - Barkley
5) Broncos - QB4
6) Colts - Chubb

omahacolt 03-17-2018 09:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 59914)
My guess is:

1) Browns - QB1
2) Giants - QB2
3) Jets - QB3
4) Browns - Barkley
5) Broncos - QB4
6) Colts - Chubb
Nope

Not going to happen

Dam8610 03-17-2018 09:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 59929)
Nope

Not going to happen
Great reasoning there, your argument is quite compelling.

rcubed 03-17-2018 09:08 PM
I dont think giants go QB. If CLE thinks they will go barkley 2 then CLE may still go barkley 1 and QB at 4. I read and heard on radio the giants like chubb.

YDFL Commish 03-17-2018 09:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 59905)
I Am a build the lines and defense guy. A rb and wr in the 2nd and 3rd is not my ideal draft
Who said a rb and wr? With the 2nd rd picks we now have, Ballard fill any hope he wants.

Besides, I was advocating Michel, OL, OL in the 2nd.

VeveJones007 03-17-2018 10:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 59929)
Nope

Not going to happen
I think Chubb could very well be there at 6. Dismissing it out of hand is foolish.


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