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FatDT 01-01-2018 01:14 AM

Welcome back? No. Fuck you Dam. You were wrong admit it. Or just fuck off. I'm kinda drunk. Bye Pagano. Happy new year

omahacolt 01-01-2018 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 49328)
Welcome back? No. Fuck you Dam. You were wrong admit it. Or just fuck off. I'm kinda drunk. Bye Pagano. Happy new year

Dam is a bitch. He won't admit he is wrong.

Racehorse 01-01-2018 02:03 AM

Meh, if Dam wants to return, who cares? The problem is gone.

Mr. Session 01-01-2018 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 49330)
Meh, if Dam wants to return, who cares? The problem is gone.

Yeah, I don't get why folks are taking it personal.

I mean, I got 99 problems, but...

Big Smooth 01-01-2018 12:12 PM

Dam refuses to eat any crow, typical. Just came back as annoying and up his own ass as ever. I look forward to his future here, gonna be fun.

HoosierinFL 01-01-2018 12:33 PM

In Dam's logic, coaches don't account for anything. They either have good players or bad players, and that's what determines success.

omahacolt 01-01-2018 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Session (Post 49381)
Yeah, I don't get why folks are taking it personal.

I mean, I got 99 problems, but...

does anyone ever take anything personal here?

when a dude is wrong, everyone knows he is wrong, but refuses to admit to being wrong, he is a bitch.

that isn't personal. that is just a simple fact

ChoppedWood 01-01-2018 01:04 PM

Fuck Dam. He has no credibility, none.

He got owned by facts that humiliated him and he ran and hid like a punk.

I doubt he'll ever watch the Colts again now that his dad is unemployed because of all these shitty players that failed him.

Dam8610 01-01-2018 02:27 PM

Wow, the butthurt is strong here. Amazing how few of you can handle a difference of opinion. You all finally got your way, why are you still crying?

Colt Classic 01-01-2018 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 49437)
Wow, the butthurt is strong here. Amazing how few of you can handle a difference of opinion. You all finally got your way, why are you still crying?

Welcome back, Kotter.

Gimmick 01-01-2018 04:44 PM

I was the first one who started the Fire Pagano bandwagon a few years ago.
This day was long overdue.

However, I think they could have waited until Monday morning.

smitty46953 01-01-2018 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gimmick (Post 49499)
I was the first one who started the Fire Pagano bandwagon a few years ago.
This day was long overdue.

However, I think they could have waited until Monday morning.

Nah, why make him drive back to facility ... :cool:

Colts And Orioles 01-01-2018 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Gimmick (Post 49499)



I was the first one who started the Fire Pagano bandwagon a few years ago.

This day was long overdue.

However, I think they could have waited until Monday morning to make the announcement.



o


In most cases, I would agree with this.

However, I believe that this particular case has extenuating circumstances.

Considering how long that Colts fans were made to endure this clod of a head coach on the team's sidelines, I think that it would be much more unfair to make them wait an additional day to know that it was official ........ so, announcing it immediately after the conclusion of yesterday's game was the least that Irsay could do for his loyal fan base.


o

omahacolt 01-01-2018 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gimmick (Post 49499)
I was the first one who started the Fire Pagano bandwagon a few years ago.
This day was long overdue.

However, I think they could have waited until Monday morning.

i highly doubt you started the fire pagano talk.

omahacolt 01-01-2018 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 49503)
Nah, why make him drive back to facility ... :cool:

also it sure did seem like it was pretty much decided before the game and pagano knew it.

no need to not pull the bandaid off quickly

Oldcolt 01-01-2018 05:58 PM

One silver lining of how damn long it took to fire Pagano. The next hire must know he will get a fair chance and then some to prove his worth

YDFL Commish 01-01-2018 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 49533)
One silver lining of how damn long it took to fire Pagano. The next hire must know he will get a fair chance and then some to prove his worth

Not with me he wont. This team better be a double digit winner in 2018.

Colts And Orioles 01-01-2018 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 49533)



One silver lining of how damn long it took to fire Pagano. The next hire must know he will get a fair chance and then some to prove his worth



o


Another potential silver lining is the timing/fate of it all.

In the event that the Colts get Harbaugh (or another solid head coach) to come on board for 2018 and beyond, it is quite possible that the Colts would now have a coach who is better than Pagano (who isn't?), but not as good as Harbaugh and/or another good head coach if they had fired Pagano sooner than they did.

Somewhat similar to the Orioles' manager situation working out for them in the long run when Joe Girardi turned down their offer in 2007. Had Girardi come on board when the Orioles asked him to, they probably would never have wound up with Buck Showalter several years later.


I wanted Pagano fired sooner than he was, just as almost every Colts fan that hasn't been living on the moon wanted ........ but if the Colts wind up with a very good head coach (instead of just a pretty good head coach), then it will ease the pain of what we have had to endure with Pagano over the last 3 seasons.


o

omahacolt 01-01-2018 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 49537)
o


Another potential silver lining is the timing/fate of it all.

In the event that the Colts get Harbaugh (or another solid head coach) to come on board for 2018 and beyond, it is quite possible that the Colts would now have a coach who is better than Pagano (who isn't?), but not as good as Harbaugh and/or another good head coach if they had fired Pagano sooner than they did.

Somewhat similar to the Orioles' manager situation working out for them in the long run when Joe Girardi turned down their offer in 2007. Had Girardi come on board when the Orioles asked him to, they probably would never have wound up with Buck Showalter several years later.


I wanted Pagano fired sooner than he was, just as almost every Colts fan that hasn't been living on the moon wanted ........ but if the Colts wind up with a very good head coach (instead of just a pretty good head coach), then it will ease the pain of what we have had to endure with Pagano over the last 3 seasons.


o

thanks for throwing in that orioles tidbit in there. that was so interesting. and we all care so much

Colts And Orioles 01-01-2018 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 49552)



thanks for throwing in that orioles tidbit in there. that was so interesting. and we all care so much



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You're welcome.

I don't care at all about soccer, but if somebody made a relevant analogy about a situation in that sport in regard/comparison to a situation with the Colts, I would appreciate it.


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Gimmick 01-01-2018 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 49516)
also it sure did seem like it was pretty much decided before the game and pagano knew it.

no need to not pull the bandaid off quickly

If the whole thing ended bitterly, then sure fire the guy right away. But judging by the way Irsay gave him the gameball at the end of the game, and what he said in the press release, I think it would have been better form to let Pagano have his one last day and then do what had to be done first thing Monday morning. If I were an owner I would reserve Sunday firings for guys who pissed me off and I want to run out of town.

DrSpaceman 01-01-2018 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Gimmick (Post 49570)
If the whole thing ended bitterly, then sure fire the guy right away. But judging by the way Irsay gave him the gameball at the end of the game, and what he said in the press release, I think it would have been better form to let Pagano have his one last day and then do what had to be done first thing Monday morning. If I were an owner I would reserve Sunday firings for guys who pissed me off and I want to run out of town.


No, I would not. Big mistake

Do it as early as possible, start calling guys you want to interview and start the process of finding a new coach as soon as possible before 7 or 8 other teams fire guys and start inrerviews too

Irsay certainly has his faults as owner, we all know that, but this is not one I am criticizing him for. Pagano was lucky to make it through the season. I would have walked up to him as he was leaving the field and fired him

The post game and the locker room stuff was thank Pagano for his past service and saying goodbye, nothing more.

Indiana V2 01-02-2018 12:16 AM

So glad Pagano is gone, good human being, but held back Luck and the Colts franchise as HC. Hope has been restored, and can actually look forward to next season.

smitty46953 01-02-2018 08:28 PM

The Baltimore Sun reports the Ravens would like ex-Colts coach Chuck Pagano to replace the retiring Dean Pees as defensive coordinator.

The Ravens' DBs coach from 2008-10, Pagano spent one year as coordinator before being hired by the Colts. Pees was the coordinator for the entire intervening six years. Pagano's Colts defenses weren't much to call home about, but personnel issues were an annual theme.


Source: Jeff Zrebiec on Twitter :cool:

albany ed 01-03-2018 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 49804)
The Baltimore Sun reports the Ravens would like ex-Colts coach Chuck Pagano to replace the retiring Dean Pees as defensive coordinator.

The Ravens' DBs coach from 2008-10, Pagano spent one year as coordinator before being hired by the Colts. Pees was the coordinator for the entire intervening six years. Pagano's Colts defenses weren't much to call home about, but personnel issues were an annual theme.


Source: Jeff Zrebiec on Twitter :cool:


This makes sense. Peter principal. He was not nor will he ever be HC material, but as an assistant?

apballin 01-03-2018 10:46 PM

He's not a bad coach I'm standing by that

he was set up for failure this season

YDFL Commish 01-03-2018 11:27 PM

It's ok to be delusional. Just check in with Dammy and get some of what he's taking for that.

omahacolt 01-04-2018 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 50011)
He's not a bad coach I'm standing by that

he was set up for failure this season

Stand by it all you want. There is clear evidence that you are wrong. You just look like a retarded fanboy

Pez 01-04-2018 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 50011)
He's not a bad coach I'm standing by that

he was set up for failure this season

Are you talking about Pags?

Luck4Reich 01-04-2018 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 50011)
He's not a bad coach I'm standing by that

he was set up for failure this season

You and Dam standing by Pags makes instant 3 Stooges.:cool:

nate505 01-06-2018 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 50011)
He's not a bad coach I'm standing by that

he was set up for failure this season

Well then some team should swoop down and pick him up to be their head coach.

I remember that being the insane rationale by some as to why he wasn't fired last year. "Someone ELSE might get him!!"

Racehorse 01-06-2018 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 50424)
Well then some team should swoop down and pick him up to be their head coach.

I remember that being the insane rationale by some as to why he wasn't fired last year. "Someone ELSE might get him!!"

I have not even heard anyone interviewing him, except the Ratbirds needing a DC. Looks like they were all wrong about someone else swooping him up.

Spike 01-06-2018 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 50011)
He's not a bad coach I'm standing by that

he was set up for failure this season

Yeah, yeah he is.

apballin 01-06-2018 09:23 PM

Record speaks for itself

Racehorse 01-06-2018 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 50475)
Record speaks for itself

800-12 scored against in the 4th quarter? Yep, I agree with you.

apballin 01-06-2018 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 50481)
800-12 scored against in the 4th quarter? Yep, I agree with you.

53-43 that's counting this seasons bullshit

.500 playoff record

Puck 01-06-2018 09:52 PM

You are really a slow learner.

Racehorse 01-06-2018 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 50484)
53-43 that's counting this seasons bullshit

.500 playoff record

With a downward spiral after three years. Clearly, the guy regressed over time and had to go.

11-5
11-5
11-5
8-8
8-8
4-12

Had he gotten another year, he would have made us into the Cleveland Browns, putting his record below .500. Thank the Lord he is gone!

FatDT 01-06-2018 10:00 PM

Record doesn't matter. How did the team win? By playing bad teams, and by Luck overcoming bad coaching in the 4th.

ChoppedWood 01-06-2018 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 50491)
With a downward spiral after three years. Clearly, the guy regressed over time and had to go.

11-5
11-5
11-5
8-8
8-8
4-12

Had he gotten another year, he would have made us into the Cleveland Browns, putting his record below .500. Thank the Lord he is gone!

Race, I get all this weird record stuff, but that's sort of subjective. Can you please do the research and tell us what his variance was- because that, that right there is a solid fucking quantitative barometer my friend!


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