The Colts are 3-3 in games decided by 7 points or less, which is exactly NFL average in that category. By your theory, an "average" coach would have this team at 3-7. It would take an extremely above average NFL head coach (one who would be 6-0 in said games) to have this team at 6-4.

Except they were leading in almost all those games, many by double digits, and most coaches would not blow a double digit lead on a consistent basis like this.

Sometimes energy and luck ( gets you a lead, then talent wins out

An offense that disappears for quarters at a time and gives up crucial possessions and sometimes points in the latter stages of games doesn't help matters either. But no one seems to want to acknowledge that the offense is very young overall and going through growing pains while the defense is average at best art its most crucial position, which causes them to get beat, especially when they have to be on the field for huge chunks of quarters and halves.

Don't give me that garbage. The Colts have led by two scores going into the fourth quarter and lost what seems like every game except the two Pagano could not get us ready for. Pagano is trash and the sooner you realize it, the sooner you will feel like you are not a pariah.

Pariah? This is a message board, I would never take it that seriously. I'm also not kow-towing to a baseless opinion just because the majority of you hold it.

The majority of knowledgeable football fans and commentators, to be honest.

I get that you disagree, but I would not call our general opinion baseless, there’s plenty of material to back up that opinion

The young offensive "talent" is scarce. Young yes, talent not so much...

I've seen it all, none of it is very convincing. It also doesn't help that the group position changes based on convenience to make Pagano the one who's at fault no matter what.

The Colts have some young talent on offense. QB, RB, and WR, mostly. Kelly seems solid as well when healthy.

If they would use Mack correctly you would see more of the offensive talent.

They finally played Rogers last week and benched Clay Aiken and we saw what he can do.

Name one local or national journalist or media member who has defended Pagano this year or has come out and stated they believe he can still coach this team?

Its not just a majority opinion. Its EVERYONE'S opinion except you and Jim Irsay.

Why would I care what the media thinks?

Maybe it's just me but I don't see much from Mack as an every down back. He is a change of pace guy. Not a 3 down guy. But I agree they need to design some plays with him and gore in at the same time. But no way is he ready to take over for Gore.

I think Gore is extremely underrated with this fan base. That guy is a beast

And becoming one of my favorite colts ever

What about Mack makes you think he's not a 3 down back? He's good at all 3 components the role requires (running, receiving, blocking), he just hasn't been given the opportunity yet.

Why do you think he isn't getting the opportunity?

It must be Ryan Grigson. Damn Him!

Probably because he is a rookie and coaches in general tend to prefer veterans. Mack not getting as many opportunities as I'd like is one of my biggest frustrations with the current coaching staff, but not one that I think would be much different under most coaching staffs.

Because he goes down way to easy.... most of the time when he gets hit the play is over. How many yards has he lost due to no being able to break a tackle. Gore does it constantly. Switch to Mack he goes down like Omahas mom

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Yeah that makes sense, and Rosie O’Donnell is the sexiest bitch on the planet.:rolleyes:

To be fair, Mack was pretty good at breaking tackles last Sunday.

I think he's got a nice stiff arm.

He is a skinny dude, but he pops that jab out there fast enough to put dudes off balance, and his speed/acceleration does the rest.

A year or two of lifting and gaining some weight, who knows?

Kelly, I agree, Jacoby is a good BU QB that might develope yes.
TY is a good WR2
I like Jack Doyle
Mack is OK..

Pretty thin pickings

I think Gore is completely overrated the last few years and has been a very average back for the team. He has not been bad, its just he has not done anything special.

I know the line has not been good, but even so, he has been very average.

And no I don't think Mack is necessarily an every down back, but I do think he would be a great 3rd down back, good catches passes of the backfield if they used him that way, and certainly a good change of pace outside runner.

OK.......just name ONE PERSON PERIOD, that is not whacked out on drugs (in other words, not Irsay) and not related to Pagano, you can point to that shares your opinion that Pagano deserves another chance with this team and that feels with better players he would be a success?

I have never had that impression with Mack

Most of the plays he loses yardage on he just has no chance at all because or poor blocking.

Its one thing to beat one guy and break a tackle. When you have two or three in the backfield right as the play is starting, you don't have much of a chance

And he did recently reverse field for a nice gain on a play where the original design went right, he stopped and went back left.

I think it is pretty difficult to assess a RB's capabilities with the team as-is. Our offensive system, and specifically our approach to running the ball, doesn't seem terribly cohesive. Do we like power running? Do we play matchups? Do we utilize play action so pass and run set each other up effectively? Or do we try to do all of that and more, at the wrong times and poorly?

I think it's tough to assess any of our offensive talent with this scheme and with the weakness of the coaching. I was convinced we need to dump Moncrief after this season and I'm still pretty much there but Venturi made a compelling case on JMV yesterday that we really haven't put him in a situation to see what he's capable of.......I wouldn't support signing him to a big payday but if he and his agent were willing to sign a modest contract...maybe shorter term with performance incentives I wouldn't be opposed. Probably won't happen.....someone will sign him for bigger money and the smart play for him is to take the money and run, but it's really a shame we seem content to squander talent (limited as it may be) because we seem unwilling to fit our scheme to the best fit for the talent we have. Situational football (which Bellicheat excels at) vs. We just do what we do (which Clappy mcWoodchopper fails at).

Same line as Gore.... Gore gets hit and gains yards. Mack doesn't. I agree he is a big play threat. And what GBB has said about the way defenses play him vs Gore is different. If that in fact is the case then you have to keep playing Gore more snaps because it works. Wow possible good coaching there.

Yes he has a good yards per carry average but it is elevated due to his big plays.

Look at his stats. Most of his yards are from one play per game so that one play exaggerates his yes/carry....the rest of the time he is a below average RB

http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamel...05/marlon-mack

Other than the SF game he has not been good at all

Look at the stats and take the one big run out of the Rams Tenn Jac and Houston games and he is averaging less than 2.5 yards per carry.


I don't know. I just don't see the hype yet

I'd take Gore every day over Mack

I agree. Mack has to continue to be our change of pace guy.

I think they need to be more creative about how they get him the ball to help accentuate his talents, but that can't mean just taking out Gore and plugging in Mack and running the same stuff. Get him more touches but do it smart, don't ask him to be Frank.

I have never seen a Colt RB get to the LOS and attack holes like Gore. It's been a while since James, so maybe I just don't remember. I've seen guys look like they have Gore in the gap, absolutely dead to rights, and Gore's move will be so fast and decisive he almost always gets back to the LOS.

I am not as down on our line as many of you are. I think that if we were not so predictable with the pays we cal, the defense would not know exactly when to blitz and when to stack the box. The pay-calling puts the line in an impossible situation. That said, it would not upset me at all if we picked a stud OT to add to the roster, but LBs are more critical of a need, plus better coaching that would give the line an opportunity to do what it needs to do. Offensive lines in the league are all pretty poor in today's league.

Except Dallas.

Do you honestly believe that the play calling has nothing to do with the offense disappearing for quarters at a time?

True, but Peyton was close to the end of his career and coming off like 3 neck surgeries. Luck is still in his 20s and (supposedly) had routine shoulder surgery. Hope whatever he's doing over there works out, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

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I'm starting to wonder how important Tyron Smith is for the boys.

I heard Dallas didn't schemed 0 runs to the left during his absence.

- unrelated but I got some cowboy fans who like to gas up Prescott and act like he's better than Luck. Watching Prescott get smacked around because Zeke wasn't giving him 3rd and shorts to convert was almost comical.

To me, Tyron Smith is more important than Elliott and Sean Lee. Dak can't do shit without him.

Gore never has a big run.

You sound like Polian when he used to talk about the COlts piss poor run D on his show. "Well if you just ignore this play and that play (the biggest ones of the game), we did pretty good!!"

The point is Mack can be that back that IS a big play threat and can make those game changing plays if they put him in position to do so

Gore is not. Gore is not going to break a run for 50 yards in a game changing or momentum changing play.

Good coaches are supposed to know how to utilize such talent and maximize it. These coaches obviously don't. Their idea is to give Mack the same plays as Gore and hope he can make a big play with his speed. If that is what they continue to do with him, I agree, its a waste. He is not the between the tackles back to fight for 3-4 yards

Mack has had 5 double digit yard runs. Totaling 106 yards
Gores top 5 double digit runs total 85 yards
So in 5 rushes Mack averaged 4.2 more yards per carry. All other runs he is averaging 2.0 yards per carry. Gore averages 3.0 yards per carry.




Mack had a 24 yard run against the Rams... sounds great but he had 10 carries in that game for a total of 24 yards. 9 rushes zero gain.

In the Tenn game he had a long run of 22 yards His stat line was 2 rushes for 18 yards. So run 2 was a loss of 4.

He has big runs. He he does.... but he loses more yards than most fans realize.

Arizona he had 6 carries for -3 yards and a long of 3.

He is not even close to being able to replace Gore.... in fact if they feel the need to replace Gore they need to sign a FA or draft a starting RB