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FatDT 03-01-2017 10:18 AM

I am not one to cast judgement for drinking. I have made bad decisions before. And it's a lot easier to do that when you've had too much to drink.

I have learned to not open myself up to that unless I am in a place where it's safe. At home, camping, at a neighbor's house, etc. I don't go out to bars anymore to get shitfaced. It's expensive and it gets exponentially more dangerous the later you go and the more drinks you put down. I am also lucky that I am not a belligerent asshole when I'm drunk. I do find the world to be a pretty hilarious place though.

This is a tough lesson Parry is going to learn. I would like to know his side of the story, but it sounds like he might not have one that he can remember. I don't care about what he said while arrested. I don't think drunkenness reveals character at all. I think it makes you a caricature of yourself. But at the same time, no one forced him to drink, it wasn't someone else that punched the golf cart driver (what was the situation there?), no one inhabited his body and resisted arrest. So he should be held accountable for doing what he chose to do. That might mean community service, fines, a civil suit, jail time, and/or getting cut.

To me this is approximately in the same ballpark as what McAfee did. The assault is a bit more severe, how much damage did he really do? But I am not going to demand that he be cut. This is not on a level with a Ray Rice type of situation.

natagu23 03-01-2017 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 3747)
I am not one to cast judgement for drinking. I have made bad decisions before. And it's a lot easier to do that when you've had too much to drink.

I have learned to not open myself up to that unless I am in a place where it's safe. At home, camping, at a neighbor's house, etc. I don't go out to bars anymore to get shitfaced. It's expensive and it gets exponentially more dangerous the later you go and the more drinks you put down. I am also lucky that I am not a belligerent asshole when I'm drunk. I do find the world to be a pretty hilarious place though.

This is a tough lesson Parry is going to learn. I would like to know his side of the story, but it sounds like he might not have one that he can remember. I don't care about what he said while arrested. I don't think drunkenness reveals character at all. I think it makes you a caricature of yourself. But at the same time, no one forced him to drink, it wasn't someone else that punched the golf cart driver (what was the situation there?), no one inhabited his body and resisted arrest. So he should be held accountable for doing what he chose to do. That might mean community service, fines, a civil suit, jail time, and/or getting cut.

To me this is approximately in the same ballpark as what McAfee did. The assault is a bit more severe, how much damage did he really do? But I am not going to demand that he be cut. This is not on a level with a Ray Rice type of situation.

Same ballpark as McAfee? Sorry, you lost me there. Not even close.

If they cut his ass, i wouldnt complain about it.

DrSpaceman 03-01-2017 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 3747)
I am not one to cast judgement for drinking. I have made bad decisions before. And it's a lot easier to do that when you've had too much to drink.

I have learned to not open myself up to that unless I am in a place where it's safe. At home, camping, at a neighbor's house, etc. I don't go out to bars anymore to get shitfaced. It's expensive and it gets exponentially more dangerous the later you go and the more drinks you put down. I am also lucky that I am not a belligerent asshole when I'm drunk. I do find the world to be a pretty hilarious place though.

This is a tough lesson Parry is going to learn. I would like to know his side of the story, but it sounds like he might not have one that he can remember. I don't care about what he said while arrested. I don't think drunkenness reveals character at all. I think it makes you a caricature of yourself. But at the same time, no one forced him to drink, it wasn't someone else that punched the golf cart driver (what was the situation there?), no one inhabited his body and resisted arrest. So he should be held accountable for doing what he chose to do. That might mean community service, fines, a civil suit, jail time, and/or getting cut.

To me this is approximately in the same ballpark as what McAfee did. The assault is a bit more severe, how much damage did he really do? But I am not going to demand that he be cut. This is not on a level with a Ray Rice type of situation.



I don't view this as anywhere near what McAfee did. Parry was arrested for robbery, auto theft, criminal damage, resisting arrest and a DUI. And he cussed out the cops to top it off. He assaulted someone and stole a golf cart.

McAfee was a simple public intoxication. He got drunk in Broad Ripple and tried to swim in the canal The cops even said they took him in for his own safety. He was cooperative with the police and caused no problems, answered their questions

http://nesn.com/2010/10/colts-punter...ming-in-canal/

They aren't even close to the "same ballpark". The only thing in common is they were both drunk. Beyond that, could not have been more different

rcubed 03-01-2017 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 3743)
I have a very simple rule: If you have a good job, you don't steal.

I used to work in a grocery store and a guy with a good job as a vendor stole a freaking ink pen at the store and lost his cushy job because he wanted something without paying for it. The same rule applies to millionaires who think they can cheat people out of stuff because of their wealth. Just don't do it! Parry did it. What a maroon!

i agree. however knowing more details it sounds like he was drunk and took off on the cart for a joy ride. while technically its stealing its different than robbery, breaking and entering, swiping something while in a normal state of mind.

he got drunk and did something stupid and it will cost him. (just addressing the stealing part here, not the assault part)

FatDT 03-01-2017 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 3773)
I don't view this as anywhere near what McAfee did. Parry was arrested for robbery, auto theft, criminal damage, resisting arrest and a DUI. And he cussed out the cops to top it off. He assaulted someone and stole a golf cart.

McAfee was a simple public intoxication. He got drunk in Broad Ripple and tried to swim in the canal The cops even said they took him in for his own safety. He was cooperative with the police and caused no problems, answered their questions

http://nesn.com/2010/10/colts-punter...ming-in-canal/

They aren't even close to the "same ballpark". The only thing in common is they were both drunk. Beyond that, could not have been more different

Cops always attach as many charges as possible. And he was not charged with robbery.

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Parry was charged with driving under the influence, auto theft, suspicion of robbery, criminal damage and resisting arrest.
The "DUI" was rolling along in a golf cart for a few hundred feet. The "auto theft" was again, rolling along in a golf cart for a few hundred feet. There was no robbery, that will be dropped. Criminal damage will be reduced to a fine for whatever damage he caused. I doubt he will even be prosecuted. I haven't seen any reports that the driver had any injuries.

My point was to separate this from actual NFL criminals. Like Ray Rice punching his wife unconscious, Adrian Peterson beating this shit out of his child, Ray Lewis murdering that one guy, Aaron Hernandez murdering multiple people, etc. Parry isn't anywhere close.

Maybe a better comparison is to say this is somewhere between McAfee and DQ punching the pizza guy, and that all three are miles away from the actual lowlifes in the above examples.

natagu23 03-01-2017 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 3817)
Cops always attach as many charges as possible. And he was not charged with robbery.



The "DUI" was rolling along in a golf cart for a few hundred feet. The "auto theft" was again, rolling along in a golf cart for a few hundred feet. There was no robbery, that will be dropped. Criminal damage will be reduced to a fine for whatever damage he caused. I doubt he will even be prosecuted. I haven't seen any reports that the driver had any injuries.

My point was to separate this from actual NFL criminals. Like Ray Rice punching his wife unconscious, Adrian Peterson beating this shit out of his child, Ray Lewis murdering that one guy, Aaron Hernandez murdering multiple people, etc. Parry isn't anywhere close.

Maybe a better comparison is to say this is somewhere between McAfee and DQ punching the pizza guy, and that all three are miles away from the actual lowlifes in the above examples.

You're normally a good poster, but the comparisons to players who murdered and assaulted people are just out of place.

What Parry did was f**ked up in its own right and justice isnt served through a comparative lens. It shouldnt in theory anyway.

Puck 03-01-2017 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by natagu23 (Post 3822)
You're normally a good poster, but the comparisons to players who murdered and assaulted people are just out of place.

What Parry did was f**ked up in its own right and justice isnt served through a comparative lens. It shouldnt in theory anyway.

I think you are both saying the same thing

natagu23 03-01-2017 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 3823)
I think you are both saying the same thing

I hope so.

Dt should hold off on the ballpark estimates however.

FatDT 03-01-2017 11:04 PM

My point is that some of you are getting your panties in a twist over what amounts to a drunk guy knocking another guy out of a golf cart and driving it a short distance. It was dumb, he was a complete douche, and he deserves to face consequences, but this is not a cut-worthy offense. If you are offended by my use of the word "ballpark" then you need to relax.

omahacolt 03-01-2017 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 3868)
My point is that some of you are getting your panties in a twist over what amounts to a drunk guy knocking another guy out of a golf cart and driving it a short distance. It was dumb, he was a complete douche, and he deserves to face consequences, but this is not a cut-worthy offense. If you are offended by my use of the word "ballpark" then you need to relax.

if he was white, nobody would care

natagu23 03-02-2017 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 3868)
My point is that some of you are getting your panties in a twist over what amounts to a drunk guy knocking another guy out of a golf cart and driving it a short distance. It was dumb, he was a complete douche, and he deserves to face consequences, but this is not a cut-worthy offense. If you are offended by my use of the word "ballpark" then you need to relax.

There you go assuming sh*t again Dt.

I wear G-strings.

indycolts2 03-02-2017 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 3869)
if he was white, nobody would care

And there you have it........Omaha's daily attempt at improving race relations!

Pez 03-02-2017 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 3869)
if he was white, nobody would care

If he hadn't punched the guy, I wouldn't care....

Dam8610 03-02-2017 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 3869)
if he was white, nobody would care

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/8334...arry-David.jpg

How is he not white? Further, why is that even relevant?

omahacolt 03-02-2017 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 3955)

How is he not white? Further, why is that even relevant?

you know why it is relevant.

Brylok 03-02-2017 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 3955)
How is he not white? Further, why is that even relevant?

Really? And Arizona has always been a racist state. Public Enemy/Chuck D made a song about it in the early 90s. It was banned from MTV of course.

Racehorse 03-03-2017 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 3955)
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/8334...arry-David.jpg

How is he not white? Further, why is that even relevant?

I always thought he was white.

Indiana V2 03-03-2017 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 4049)
I always thought he was white.

Is he Samoan?

FatDT 03-03-2017 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Indiana V2 (Post 4051)
Is he Samoan?

Kinda looks like it. Without the facial hair he kinda looks Latino-ish. And he was born in Texas so that seems possible.

http://www.gostanford.com/images/201....jpg?width=300

natagu23 03-03-2017 07:36 PM

Who cares.

rcubed 03-03-2017 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by natagu23 (Post 4139)
Who cares.

offseason

DrSpaceman 03-03-2017 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 3817)
Cops always attach as many charges as possible. And he was not charged with robbery.



The "DUI" was rolling along in a golf cart for a few hundred feet. The "auto theft" was again, rolling along in a golf cart for a few hundred feet. There was no robbery, that will be dropped. Criminal damage will be reduced to a fine for whatever damage he caused. I doubt he will even be prosecuted. I haven't seen any reports that the driver had any injuries.

My point was to separate this from actual NFL criminals. Like Ray Rice punching his wife unconscious, Adrian Peterson beating this shit out of his child, Ray Lewis murdering that one guy, Aaron Hernandez murdering multiple people, etc. Parry isn't anywhere close.

Maybe a better comparison is to say this is somewhere between McAfee and DQ punching the pizza guy, and that all three are miles away from the actual lowlifes in the above examples.

He still hit someone to steal the golf cart. ANd he cursed at the police and resisted arrest. Its closer to the others you mentioned than to McAfeee.

He will probably get a plea deal of some type. I don't see the charges just being dropped.

Oh, OK though, he didn't murder someone or beat his kid, so its OK. Pretty low standard we are promoting.

He probably won't get cut because of this exclusively, but if there is a choice between him and a similar play this upcoming season this sure as hell isn't helping him keep his job. He isn't so great that you can just see we can ignore this and forget it happened.

Butter 03-04-2017 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 4145)
He still hit someone to steal the golf cart. ANd he cursed at the police and resisted arrest. Its closer to the others you mentioned than to McAfeee.

He will probably get a plea deal of some type. I don't see the charges just being dropped.

Oh, OK though, he didn't murder someone or beat his kid, so its OK. Pretty low standard we are promoting.

He probably won't get cut because of this exclusively, but if there is a choice between him and a similar play this upcoming season this sure as hell isn't helping him keep his job. He isn't so great that you can just see we can ignore this and forget it happened.

Meh, I would not cut him on this alone. He is going to pay a fairly decent price in criminal charges and lost wages. If he is a locker room problem or seems unfixable by the Team then sure. I think most young people are dumbasses, but are worth a second chance.

Flexo 03-04-2017 02:26 AM

He just looks like a thug to me.

Coltsalr 03-07-2017 03:00 PM

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Now, court docs show Parry has been charged with felony robbery, felony unlawful use of transportation and misdemeanor threats.

If convicted on all counts, Parry could face more than 5 years behind bars.
http://www.tmz.com/2017/03/07/david-...attack-prison/

5 years in prison might put a damper on his NFL career prospects.

Puck 03-07-2017 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 4583)
http://www.tmz.com/2017/03/07/david-...attack-prison/

5 years in prison might put a damper on his NFL career prospects.


I'm guessing he will get cut And I would hope Ballard brings in a lot of DL help Poe and or Baker

natagu23 03-07-2017 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 4583)
http://www.tmz.com/2017/03/07/david-...attack-prison/

5 years in prison might put a damper on his NFL career prospects.

Yeah, but he didnt murder anybody.
-Fatdt

JMO
-Pete

FatDT 03-07-2017 03:36 PM

If details come out that it was worse than what I described I will admit I was wrong. Felony charges and the potential for 5 years for this seems crazy, but we'll see what is said in court.

In the meantime, with the team changing so much, him getting cut is a real possibility.

Brylok 03-07-2017 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 4597)
If details come out that it was worse than what I described I will admit I was wrong. Felony charges and the potential for 5 years for this seems crazy, but we'll see what is said in court.

In the meantime, with the team changing so much, him getting cut is a real possibility.

Not crazy for Maricopa County, AZ. With that amount of time, he's most likely getting cut.

GoBigBlue88 03-10-2017 11:50 PM

Video came out today. Sorry, but he's gotta go. That's bad. Ballard is going on about leadership and the locker room. I don't know how players could get behind that guy, let alone fans.

Brylok 03-11-2017 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 5949)
Video came out today. Sorry, but he's gotta go. That's bad. Ballard is going on about leadership and the locker room. I don't know how players could get behind that guy, let alone fans.

Have a link or an address? I searched Google high and low and see no video.

smitty46953 03-11-2017 12:18 AM

http://www.indystar.com/videos/sport...rest/99041476/

:cool:

idiot ...

Brylok 03-11-2017 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 5955)

If Ballard is serious about the culture change, yeah, he's going to be cut. Puck mentioned NT to be a possible major concern earlier today, and now it is. As for the video, I didn't see much resisting arrest. He talked a lot of shit and wriggled around a bit while being handcuffed but I guess that's enough. I wonder how much alcohol he consumed to be that drunk...a big man like that. Falling into the paddy wagon was a nice touch. smh

Wyatt 03-11-2017 06:28 AM

Coming from a former cop,that was pretty mild compared to many drunk calls....

That being said,sign poe and cut him...

Maybe the cards will pick him up and sheriff Joe can put him on work release

Hoopsdoc 03-11-2017 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 5975)
Coming from a former cop,that was pretty mild compared to many drunk calls....

That being said,sign poe and cut him...

Maybe the cards will pick him up and sheriff Joe can put him on work release

He threatened to hunt down every cop there. Yikes!!

Having said that, he was obviously drunk out of his mind at the time.

If he makes the proper amends, I don't see why he should be cut. :shrug:

FatDT 03-11-2017 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 6021)
He threatened to hunt down every cop there. Yikes!!

Having said that, he was obviously drunk out of his mind at the time.

If he makes the proper amends, I don't see why he should be cut. :shrug:

I think it comes down to whether or not he hurt the driver. Mouthing off at cops drunkenly is stupid. He will need to show remorse and pay whatever debt to society the judge decides he owes, if he wants to fit the new culture Ballard is building. But unless he hurt the driver I don't see anything yet that is unforgivable. Parry has value as a rotational piece and can make some plays.

Puck 03-11-2017 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 6023)
I think it comes down to whether or not he hurt the driver. Mouthing off at cops drunkenly is stupid. He will need to show remorse and pay whatever debt to society the judge decides he owes, if he wants to fit the new culture Ballard is building. But unless he hurt the driver I don't see anything yet that is unforgivable. Parry has value as a rotational piece and can make some plays.

Was there more to the video than what Smitty posted? I didn't even hear them talking about an assault charge. Wasn't near as bad as what I expected to see.

I might have been that drunk before. I think maybe even last night. :D

He'll get jail time for the theft and DUI but will probably get suspended I would guess and have to do community service.

Again not as bad as I expected

Wyatt 04-27-2017 02:23 PM

@HolderStephen 2m2 minutes ago
It appears #Colts DL David Parry has resolved some of his legal issues in Ariz. As TMZ reported, looks like a plea deal...

sherck 04-27-2017 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 10893)
@HolderStephen 2m2 minutes ago
It appears #Colts DL David Parry has resolved some of his legal issues in Ariz. As TMZ reported, looks like a plea deal...

Smart of him.

As long as he avoids getting sentenced to anything beyond a misdemeanor, he should avoid missing any games.

He will probably end up having to pay a fine (D'Q Jackson had to pay $1,000 for punched a pizza guy) but that is pretty small potatoes when compared to what he was facing.

At the moment, the D-line depth chart look like:

DT = Anderson, Ridgeway, McGill
NT = Hankins, Woods, Parry
DE = Langford, Hunt, Sokoli

McGill, Parry and Sokoli are fighting for probably 1 or possibly 2 spots as D-line depth. Unless we add a 1st - 4th round draftee, I think Parry has a pretty good shot at staying on the team as both NT and DT depth. He is not tall/long enough to play the 5-tech DE spot.

Cheers,
Cheers,

smitty46953 04-27-2017 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 10893)
@HolderStephen 2m2 minutes ago
It appears #Colts DL David Parry has resolved some of his legal issues in Ariz. As TMZ reported, looks like a plea deal...

I have heard he is still facing up to 3 years of time. He plead guilty to two counts;
1.) misdemeanor disorderly conduct
2.) felony attempt to commit unlawful means of transportation.

He was also charged with two counts of extreme DUI (BAC was over .20) Perhaps this was dropped as part of guilty plea???

:cool:


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