I think you might be on to something here. Because that was just an inexplicable collapse yesterday.

Seems very possible that something else is going on.

Watching the team this year brings me back to the 80's. Shitty team, shitty season but hey, at least we beat the Jets.

Is Irsay alive ??

Some really solid takes on reddit today, IMO -

Those are solid takes.

Is there a single guy Ballard has resigned to a big second contract who hasn’t regressed?

Stewart and Buckner maybe. I can’t really think of anyone else.

Nelson, Smith, JT, Kelly, Shaq Leonard, Franklin, all those guys lost a step as soon as they got those big deals.

I disagree, the problem has been the disagreement with the QB position. They’ve become too concerned with how these guys are viewed off the field.

Team full of good guys that will stop and change a tire, unfortunately a team full of those guys will never win shit in the NFL

not all back problems are the same. obviously

Hard to disagree with any of this....surprised he has to buy his own season tickets?

He’s a pussy and they enable him

Can’t rely on a guy that plays half the time

Sends the wrong message to the guys playing thru all their injuries, nobody is 100 percent right now

When you need him the most he’s not there

11:40 Monday morning...I see nobody has been fired yet. I'm not surprised. Oh, well.

Who's going to do the firing? Irsay, Carlie, Ballard, Steichen? Is there leadership from the top? I have no idea who's running this team anymore.

Does anybody care?

Not as much as the fans. And that is another problem. And sad.

Nobody is going to get fired until next week.

Not that I think anyone will get fired next week, but if it's happening that's when it will happen.

That said, something has to happen. Personally if I had some sort of magic wand I'd clean house of Steichen and Ballard and have Irsay step down and let one of his daughters take over the role, but at the very least one needs to go (and frankly, Ballard is probably the first). If not, I'm here with the pitchforks with the rest of you.

Coming out of the Tits game and going into mid last week I would have said the team HAD to shed Ballard and Bradley to switch the culture and actually begin improving vs just idling.

After the AR situation, and the incomprehensible debacle that was yesterday, I don't think there's a single grain of sand level of good to come from retaining Steichen at this point; he clearly is not doing SHIT to make this a better team and who the FUCK knows what is really going down between him and AR.

I would take this approach if I were Jim / the daughters:
- Ballard
- Steichen
- Bradley
- Cross
- Blackmon
- Cox
- Ogletree
- Mitchell (we have a really nice top 3- ditch this fucking ME>WE loser right now to set a HUGE tone with the guys in the locker room!)
- Womack (he has tried, he has done what I think is his best- and that's not good enough- set the tone that we are DONE living with bottom tier talent taking key spots on the team)

All that above are gone next Monday morning!

Make it very clear in the presser- this team is going to change. Make a very clear statement that EVERY player will be reviewed and there are NO sacred cows. Go so far as making a statement that the evaluation of Richardson is incomplete and that is one of the main drivers of Steichen being let go as well (really financially it is at the end of next year they MUST know based on the 5th year option). Also add that the new GM and HC will sit down and evaluate every position on the team and will make all the personnel decisions between the date of hire and the start of next years TC to create a whole new culture on 56th street.

New GM and HC are given complete latitude to review both AR and JT. If they determine they can serve us better by being on different teams that will give us draft picks, then ship them both and just get what you can for both of them. Nobody is going to convince me either of them are franchise players, and we need to fucking develop some franchise level players. You aren't going to do that without extra draft capital.

Commit to going heavy in FA for vets that have played in some challenging circumstances but have shown the grit to persevere. Tell these guys they are there to serve as mentors for the young guys that are going to go through hell rebuilding this shit.

This is what the fans expect! Get rid of the loser mentality, get rid of the acceptance of mediocrity, tell the fans there are major changes in responsibility and expectations that are in place from the end of that presser going forward. We need hope and anything short of the above, will not provide that hope.

Tired of this trash ass half ass approach. Get some real fucking football minds in here and turn this shit around!

"Bum Tendencies!"

Holy Shit- MacAfee just declared that the team has BUM tendencies.

Damn man, if you are a higher up Colts staffer, if you are Jim Irsay, man you cannot look away from this. One of the highest profile players in your team's history, is saying your front office supports the mentality of a bum!

Dude, you gotta take heads off after this, you just have to!

Funny you say that because McAfee just asked the same question to Shefter.

Steichens comments today were pretty revealing. He said AR was suffering from severe back spasms and legitimately was unable to play.

When asked why he characterized it as “soreness”, he gave some bs answer about wanting to keep injury stuff in house. Then he admitted he shouldn’t have used “soreness” to describe it.

I’m not sure exactly what’s happening in that building but I fear the level of dysfunction is higher than we thought.

I think it’s pretty clear that Steichen and AR don’t have the best relationship. They sure as hell don’t now if they did before.

That’s some total bullshit from Steichen and if I were AR, I’d be livid.

Half the fanbase wants AR gone.

I think AR is about 20th on the list of problems that franchise has.

There’s a whole helluva lot of guys I’d replace before I replace AR. That includes players and management.

I don't think Jim even knows where he shit last & there have been reports in the past that the daughters Irsay like Ballard. I think this franchise is in real trouble & they are just going to run it back in 2025.

I mean he's a part time qb. It's always something with this guy. I wanted it to work & really thought it would but here we are.

I’m sure AR deserves some criticism, but I’m not sure what fans expect. You draft a historically inexperienced player at the toughest position in sports and you bring him into a fucking clown show organization with no direction. I have no idea whether or not AR can be a franchise guy. I see things that give me hope and I see things that give me concern. What I am confident of is that if he’s forced to do it under this regime he will have to do it in spite of them. They have fucked this up about as much as they could.

Unless some great opportunity comes along for a QB, replacing AR without at least another year seems nuts to me.

I doubt his trade value is very high. If he and Steichen can't get on the same page, fire Steichen and bring in someone who can coach him up. So far he hasn't shown he's some great coach in this league. If the new guy can't and AR looks lost next year, fine, look for a replacement then.

Can they sell the team, tear down the stadium, and maybe put up a shopping mall or movie theater?

too small of a sample size. he blew out his shoulder last year. that isn't something you can walk off. this year, if he missed 3 games with all the running he does, I would say that should be expected. he is a physical runner and doesn't have the shiftiness of a guy like Lamar. he is going to get dinged up.


is he a pussy? maybe. I have had back issues so i understand the inability to do things with a fucked up back. could he have played through it? no clue. I don't know and neither do you.

there are plenty of things to criticize him for that we know are issues. I assume if he could play, he would have.

cross and Womack have been decent. I would not get rid of them. at the very least they are cheap, decent backups

Your assumption is the main thing I’m criticizing, he’s missed too many games. I’m willing to live with the turnovers and missed throws I expected all that. A 6-4 250 guy that misses games like he’s Austin Collie or Paris Campbell I wasn’t expecting

Cam Newton missed 3 games his first 6 years in the NFL

he blew his shoulder out and missed a bunch of games. what did you want him to do? play left handed

athletes want to compete. maybe you are right and he is an outlier where he just doesn't give a fuck. those guys are so very rare that, especially at QB, that I don't think he would have just sat out that game.

why would he? the Giants are terrible. what QB wouldn't want to play them. just doesn't make sense and all of this shit is because Steichen and the colts are fucking dumb and don't understand how to deal with injuries.

I would keep Ogletree as well. MOC is almost certainly gone and Ogletree is at least a good cheap blocker. Blow up the rest of the TE room, Woods included.

AR seems to be the type of guy who wants to play every game. I think he would have played if he could have.

So what are you guys implying here?

The team is not letting him play?

Bull fuckin shit… if he wanted to play he would’ve been out there. If they’re babying him to this degree it’s no wander this team is soft as Charmin

We are aware of at least one instance where it was stated Richardson wanted to go back in and Steichen opted to sit him. At the time I thought it was a good move designed to encourage him to protect himself. Now I think that’s giving the organization too much credit. Regardless there is at least one instance we know of where he wanted to play and the team said no. After not allowing him to talk to the media, I’m very curious if this was another or not.

Listening to all these talking heads and all the leaking of dudes being late to meetings, refusing physical treatment to get back on the field, etc...

It sounds like this thing is just absolutely rotting from the inside out. So, with that said, I would not be surprised in the least if this latest issue with AR being "sore" isn't yet another "suspension" with Steichen trying to use his control over AR as a means to convey control. In doing so, to me at least it says he has NO control over this group. This whole thing stinks and needs to be sanitized by a raging fire.

Steichen may have no control because those above him are either overruling him or are just apathetic.

I appreciated it when coaches weren't afraid and were allowed to criticize players for lack of effort, poor attitude, or just be dumb as rocks!

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They could do that.

They could move the team to Louisville, and become the Kentucky Colts ...... and if that happened, perhaps the fans in the city of Indianapolis can evolve into the same narcissistic crybabies that the fans in the city of Baltimore became when they lost the Colts, and bitch and moan for the next 40 years about how their team and their culture was stolen from them.

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None of that. The dude has an injury preventing him from being effective.

I am implying that he wasn't healthy enough to play. that if he was healthy enough to play, he would have.

you are implying that he just didn't want to play. which is very unlikely

So someone told him he couldn’t play and he agreed.

I’m sure if it were up to doctors Peyton Manning would have missed a lot of games.

If he wanted to play I’m sure he can over ride medical advice, it’s football. So again if they’re babying him and expecting the rest of the team to play thru everything I’m not surprised guys started booking trips to Cancun before the Giants game

PM played with a broken jaw for multiple games of the 2001 season. In fact he missed only missed 1 play I believe.

Luck played with a lacerated kidney, among multiple other injuries.

Bert Jones played with a what amounted to a separated shoulder.

Something tells me that AR just isn't cut out for the NFL. But time will tell.