If he has a great year, they could still trade him, but they'll get a lot better deal than they would have a few weeks ago.

I have no doubt that if Taylor had come back without an extension, played well and demonstrated that a Richardson/Taylor combo was as lethal as everyone hoped, then he would have gotten a far better deal from the Colts. The Colts have shown no hesitancy in the past to provide cutting-edge contracts to their homegrown stars. Taylor's injury issues seem to have brought the contract value way down.

The fact that Taylor was willing to commit himself to a discounted contract before getting an opportunity to demonstrate his skills in a game setting does concern me somewhat, I'll admit.

Why would that be a concern? Whatever opportunity there was to showcase his talents (something I am sure he believes he has already done) has to be counterbalanced by the opportunity to get injured. How much more would he have made by playing without a contract extension? The difference would be maybe 2-3 million more a year, maybe. If you are looking for some generational wealth there isn't much difference in lifestyle between 26 million (his guarantee) and say 30 million whereas there is a shitload of difference between 26 million and zilch (if he is injured). Most of us would same the same decision.

Yes, what you are saying is true in any contract negotiation (there is always a risk of injury), but usually doesn't result in the player taking a discounted contract. Taylor appears to have been willing to accept one here, which is the source of my concern.

Noticed that Spotrac has updated their website with details from the new contract. Note: Spotrac may continue to edit these details over the next week or so as they investigate with other sources.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/indianap...-taylor-47636/


3 year, $42,000,000 contract, $26,500,000 guaranteed

Includes a $10,248,000 signing bonus which they prorate over 4 years.

$20,304,000 guaranteed at signing (signing bonus + remaining 2023 salary + 2024 salary + 2024 per game active bonus)

$7,152,445 of 2025 salary fully guarantees March 17th, 2024 (this amount is injury guaranteed only at contract signing)

2024 Per Game Active Bonus: $30,000 ($510,000, guaranteed)

2025-26 Per Game Active Bonus: $60,000 ($1.02M)


The third year of the contract is not guaranteed and takes no cap space other than the prorated portion of the signing bonus.

Ugh. Can't stand him. I can't cheer for a player I can't stand.

These guys sacrifice their present and future health to entertain us and excite us. It’s not personal, its business. Its not your money he’s getting, Its Irsays. I did everything I could to maximize my benefits and final salary so I could retire with a larger Soc. Security and state retirement $$ and nobody complained. (I suspect there were some who would have held the exit door for me.) If you make it into the NFL and dont max your pay while getting the shit beat out of you, you are stupid.

I don't care, I'm just a fan. From my perspective, Mali Kawa runs the Colts with his Leonard and dickhead Taylor contracts. Congrats on your social security accounts.

You don't even know him. No use having such ill feelings for a guy whose job is to entertain in the fashion of a gladiator.

Of course I don't know him; he's an NFL player and I'm just a random fan. I still think he's a dickhead and I can't stand him. Mali Kawa needs to find us a WR for Minchew...our QB1. Get on it, Boss Kawa. Sam! Get your shoes on.

Don't pay Pittman big money either.

So you are saying that the fans' view should not be considered, even though they are the ones ultimately paying for these giant salaries? Didn't many Colts fans invest their time and money based in part upon the expectation that Taylor would be playing this season? But, no, they should embrace Taylor when he threatens to hold out and deprive the fans of what they paid for, because its "just business" and he should be applauded for screwing over the fans in order to further amplify his personal wealth, right?

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/indianap...-taylor-47636/
I do not really like it if he is not back to all pro form.
Next year cap ht of 10 is ok, but the next 2 are 15.5, can cut him in 26 for only 2.5.

If owners listened to fans on day to day functions they would lose badly and often.

Dont buy team unis and hats. Stop buying tickets. Money talks.

If you think a team is listening to fans on the draft, you are going to be disappointed.

Fans can decide on an individual basis. If you wanna bitch and moan about Taylor, by all means do so. As a fan you have that right. Not all fans feel the way you do. I for one don't. I've enjoyed watching Taylor, there were games where he was the only bright spot. If he can continue to perform like that, I for one will be entertained. If you're not or you're more concerned with the salary cap and how it's spent, by all means, bitch on. Just don't lump all fans into that opinion.

So let him go then? Move Pierce to the X role? Draft another receiver? Gotta replace the production we let out the door.

What are you talking about? I merely took issue with your sentiment that fans should not be offended by Taylor's demands, and that we should all have no concern because its "just business" and not our money. My point is that the fans are entitled to be concerned, to be offended, and to have an opinion. And it is our money.

The fans are the reason Irsay has his wealth, and the players are able to support themselves playing a game. To suggest that the fans have no cause to offended when a player threatens to hold out, breach his contracts or demands a trade is absurd.

Haha, whatever. I merely took issue with the concept that it is somehow wrong for fans to get worked up when a player holds out, seeks at trade, etc. You are certainly welcome to feel however you want to.

Never said that. As to his wealth, that comes from all NFL fans, the TV revenue.

I dont get offended when players hold out, its there only recourse. They get the shit knocked out themselves and suffer painful injuries as a norm and the average career in the NFL is 3.3 years.

From the Wash. Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/fe...etime-of-hurt/

I’m on the players side to get what they can while they can. I believe Jim Irsay is too, to the extent he can under a contract. I dont agree with Taylor tactics this year. Irsay isnt an idiot, he wasnt giving an extension until he passed the physical.

No one is twisting your arm to watch the Colts. If you dont like what you see vote with your feet.

Thanks, I'll do just that, and you can do the same.

I get perturbed when that drama starts, but I am a lot faster to get over it when it all gets resolved.

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I agree with this, although I also agree with Racehorse in that I am quick to get over it once it's resolved.

Also, I myself am not particularly offended in the first place, but I completely understand the fans who are.

I am 58 years-old, so I have seen the player-owner relationship go from one extreme to the other, particularly in baseball. The late Jim Bouton once summed it all up in a nutshell when he said ...... ) "They way that I see it is that the owners screwed the players for 100 years. The players have been screwing the owners for the last 20 years. So the players have about another 80 years to go of continuing to screw the owners in order to level the scales of justice."

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