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That reminds me of when some other Oriole fan claimed that Matt Wieters was highly overrated, and was an average at best catcher ........ and then proposed that they trade him for a top-of-the-rotation starter.

Well if he was highly overrated and at best an average catcher, who in their right mind would trade a TOR starter for him ??? Do they think that the other 29 MLB General Managers are all deaf, dumb, and blind, and have no access to the Internet to see a player's offensive and defensive statistics ???

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he hasn't been a positive force on the field and i question if his influence in the locker room is all that positive.

the dude can't play anymore from the looks of it.

how do you know he has been a bad influence in the locker?

JAFF you think Leonard looks like he can play? You think he is a positive force on the field? His career appears over. He may need time to come to that conclusion and end it the way he wants. If not at some point he will get cut. It is a shame but his injuries were devastating.

That was my exact point.

All this crying about Leonard. When his contract was made, he was considered one of the best LBers in the NFL. His injury has changed that, apparently for good. You can't get out of the contract and crying about it is just a waste of time. Bottom line, if there is a LBer on the bench that can outplay him, than sit Leonard's ass down and play the sub. If there isn't, just hide him as best you can and hope he gets some of his magic back. How many times must this board post how lousy he's doing? You'd think he was intentionally playing shitty ball and laughing all the way to the bank. Does anyone here believe that?

calm your tits


bitching about him playing poorly is justified. i don't have a problem that we paid him. but by having that cap number on a player that belongs on the bench is a problem.

if he doesn't improve his play, then at years end he needs cut.

It doesnt matter what I think, or what you think. The Colts will make that decision. If I had psychic powers, I would be concentrating on the powerball numbers, not the collective decisions at Colts headquarters

Do you really think its appropriate to discuss another mans tits?

That is exactly why this forum exists, for people to say what they think. It’s for fun.

I dunno what you’re arguing about. Literally everyone has said the exact same thing


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I know ...... I was augmenting it.

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I mean I just don't know what to say. If you don't care about how the salary cap affects NFL teams there is just no point in talking to you about the NFL, it is a cornerstone of team building. Good Day.

Then by all means, bitch on.

Omaha likes man boobs. That is why he likes your mom so much.

I would care if I had all the data; a true injury report, doctors notes, coaches notes, an all 22 view of the game, the exact language in every contract, and the team notes and data on every single player eligible for the draft, and what knuckle headed nonsense some players commit while in college but got covered up.

I’m sure I am missing something.

I like the Colts, thats my team to cheer for. All of them. I want guys like Leonard to succeed, he’s a Colt. We are only 4 games in and some here want to show him the door now. Why? He will be better than any street free agent. He knows the D system, he is by all accounts a good locker room teammate. If he cant come back from the injuries which occurred playing for the Colts, the staff owes it to him to give him the year to recover.

I understand how the cap works. I wont guess what the Colts will do without more data that is not available to people like me.

Wow, that also makes him necrophiliac.

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My mom died in October of 1984, when I was 19 ...... here's to all the Colt-Freaks mothers who have died.

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Do you though? When you make comments like "who cares how Ballard spends Irsay's money" it points to otherwise.

Do you care how ballard spends Jim’s money?

Of course. Because he's only allowed by the NFL to spend a certain amount of it.

Not outside of the salary cap, but we all care if he mismanages the cap.

Good, let me know if they go crazy in blow the cap.

im not complaining about anything. just stating the facts.

Works for me

Continuing to pay a guy who can no longer produce at a high level $20M/year might not blow the cap in and of itself, but it'll go a long way towards that. It's certainly mismanaging the cap b/c we'll have to let better players walk in order to keep him.

Not saying this is definitely the case with Leonard. As most of us have said, give him at least the rest of the season to prove he can get back to the player he used to be. But if Leonard doesn't get much better than what he's shown so far this year then it's probably best to let him go and put the cap savings towards other guys who are more productive.

And cutting him now does a couple of things. You are now short a linebacker. Is there a guy who is not signed to another team who the Colts can sign right now and is better than Leonard? Cut Leonard now will trigger contract clauses that will have cap implications.

And who do you put in that roster spot that is better than Leonard.

Who said anything about cutting him right now? I certainly didn't:

His ratings and impact are actually on par with the other LB's till this last game, till its seems he pulled a groin. We are just used to the turnover machine that he was and the hof pace he was on. This is a different scheme as well and I wonder if that is having some impact.