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"Boos on the road are the equivalent of cheers at home."


Rick Barry, Golden State Warriors

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Eli Apple! (kidding)
Casey Hayward?

I doubt it. Calvin Ridley was suspended from the Falcons for the entire '22 season bc he bet and bet on his own team.

Not to say Rogers isn't done w the Colts.

He was betting in the facility. Ridley was away from the team.

Did Ridley bet on the Falcons? I was under the impression he never bet on his own team, though I could be wrong.

At any rate, Jim needs to get old Jerruh on the phone and see if we can still nullify that Gilmore trade.

I'm always left in awe when I see guys throw their career away, especially ones that are halfway competent.

Its a case of someone own ego overloading their survival instinct.

Whats the average career length in the NFL? Google search says 3 years. Less if you are a dumbfuck.

I’m BETTING there are signs all over professional sports locker rooms informing all team employees about gambling. I would cut him him for 2 reasons. I cant trust him and he is stupid.

I will be shocked if he doesnt get a season long ban. The only way the NFL can prevent betting by players is making them former players.

It will be interesting to see if Ballard signs a veteran. This is such a young group that a veteran, one willing to help these guys learn how to be a pro, could be a big addition. If Ballard sees this as more of a rebuild year then maybe he lets the young guys get experience. I'm hoping we sign someone.

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This guy just completed the minimum time in order to qualify for an NFL pension (3 years) ...... however, the more years that you play in the NFL, your pension gets larger.

It's insane that he would compromise/jeopardize that when the vast majority of Americans don't have that luxury (a pension) when they retire.



As a fan, I forgive the guy, and I would not mind seeing him return to play for the Colts after serving a one-year suspension ...... but man, this is a quintessential example of being young and stupid.

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All of that said, at least he had the brains to immediately confess to what he did when confronted about it, and not do a Pete Rose act of continually denying it and lying about it ...... admit that you made a mistake, throw yourself at the mercy of the court (the NFL commissioner and its league officials), and be grateful that they will very likely allow you to play again after missing one full year.

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https://twitter.com/gmbremer/status/1666504167081275392

https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...04386489597952

https://twitter.com/gmbremer/status/1666504363886387211

He knew exactly what he was doing. He bet on the Colts, from the Colts facility and tried to hide it with a phony account. Just the first two are enough to get you a permanent ban. He is a late round pick who might have worked his way into the starting lineup of a very suspect back field. He is done in pro football. Time to move on, it isn't that big of a loss for us. For him it is huge. Consequences suck.

And on some $50 bets. Dumb.

Really? He pissed away a chance at making a 7 figure salary for $50 bet.

I have zero sympathy.

Over a hundred bets, most were small bets like that.

What an asshole.

Naw, he did something stupid, welcome to the club.

It's probably addiction, honestly.

Jimmy can help him out with that when he's telling him to GTFO.

Sure looks that way...I can't help it, I feel a little sorry for the kid. It's not like he beat his wife or something! As long as he didn't bet against the Colts and do something stupid in the game to hurt our chances, if he did that show him no mercy!

This is about MONEY. Its about honest outcomes at the end of a game. If 1 or more than one player can intentionally alter the score or who wins, the NFL becomes all star wrestling, The Bachelor, or dumb fuck wives of Miami.

All it takes is a D back blowing a pass coverage and his bet wins but the fans lose. He is a grown ass man who had a chance to live a dream. He blew it on a $50 bet.

Like I said, if that is what he did, show no mercy...otherwise, either get gambling out of football or consider yourself part of the problem before you impose the death sentence on the kid!

It will only get worse. The owners opened the door to gambling thinking they could control it.

So honest question can players play fantasy football?

If so and all he did was parlays including himself and the colts to win.. not saying it’s right but is it that bad?

If he just simply bet on himself to return a kick or get an interception I mean that’s like added motivation

Yes it is. Will there be a point spread? If there is, winning may not be enough to cover the bet. That may alter how he plays coverage, chances taken to cover the bet, not just win.

If he needs an interception, gambles on the field, and fails giving the opposition a score, losing the game.

The only way sports can be made “honest”, is to ban players who bet on their own sport.

Want an example, see professional tennis. The Russians have fucked up that sport

You honestly think his 50$ bet is gonna change his play on the field?

I doubt it, seems like it was chump change and just trying to have fun with it no different than fantasy football.

Yes the power of google told me players are allowed to play fantasy football as long as the payoff is no more than 250$

So how do we know players haven’t been dogging it for years because your not gonna tell me these dudes play anything for 250$

It’s all hypocritical shit… there’s literally a Cesar’s lounge at Lucas oil

I can't typically stomach listing to Florio rant but I felt like Simms had the correct take on why athletes absolutely shouldn't gamble at all.

All it takes is someone with an addiction problem falling behind and just needing one come up, just one win, to break even.

Protect them from themselves.

This is just annoying, we lose a good player, player loses a career and millions of piddly little bets.

I still believe Pete Rose when he says he only bet on the Reds to win, but he’s still banned for a reason.

Because the MLB commissioner had the courage to protect the integrity of the game. Can't say the same about Goodell since Brady and Belicheat aren't lifetime banned like Rose is. And since the NFL has already proven they don't give a shit about the integrity of the game, why bother doing gambling suspensions? It's the height of hypocrisy to say that Isaiah Rodgers may have changed how he played the game because he bet on it while not saying that Tom Brady may have changed how he played the game because Bill Belicheat told him exactly what the defense was running based on getting data back from Ernie Adams who was analyzing film of opponents' signal and relaying that data illegally. So remove Brady and Belicheat from the record books and ban them for life, proving you actually care about the integrity of the game, or stop pretending you care about the integrity of the game with these gambling suspensions. Of course, spineless coward Goodell will do neither, because this is more about PR and image than it is about protecting the integrity of the game.

Wow, I am really in the minority here (maybe criticizing my position should now be considered Cletusphobia), because I don't think Pete Rose should have been banned for life, and I think the height of hypocrisy is the NFL showing no compassion for a kid that has a gambling addiction when the are raking in millions from allowing gambling on their games!

By the way, I believe betting on MLB was illegal when Pete Rose bet on it so that is a little different than the current NFL! Pete originally said he never bet on the Reds, then they dangled the possibility that if he admitted to gambling on the Reds they would let him into the HoF, so he did (true or not) and they used his confession to ban him forever!

Of course, the NFL and Goodell are saying that Tommy Cheater is a role model for everyone to follow. The Cheater recorded a video that will be shown to all players to educate themselves about gambling.


https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...mbling-policy/

I tend to agree with you. I can't look at all betting under the same blanket. An Isaiah Rodgers $50 bet isn't the same as Tim Donaghy directly manipulating games and earning hundreds of thousands from people making even more than that on those games.

Even bets involving your own team... I always saw a notable difference with betting on your team as opposed to betting against your team.

But if you're worried about a slippery slope, easiest thing to do is outlaw it completely. It's just an absolute mixed signal when every fucking pre-roll on a video, every ad banner on a website, every single commercial break for the NFL is shoving this shit in everyone's face, telling you what a great time it is and glorifying it with famous actors and the Manning family.

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Pete Rose was banned forever in the first place. He got a lifetime ban in 1989, which he agreed to. The Ban was appealable after 2 years, but Rose never had a leg to stand on to be granted a reprieve of that ban, because he was undeniably guilty of everything that he was accused of. And he has done nothing but lie about what he did ever since. He vehemently denied betting on Reds games for years before admitting the truth.

A narcissistic egomaniac like Rose would never admit to something that he did not do, for any reason ...... quite the opposite is true about him, that he denied things that he did do for years before finally admitting that he was guilty of everything that he was accused of in the first place when faced with insurmountable evidence of his deeds.


Also, Rose's situation was the quintessential opposite of what happened with Buck Weaver and Shoeless Joe Jackson when they played for the White Sox in 1919 and 1920. Those players had no rights whatsoever ...... no right to free agency, no right to arbitration, no right to appeal a ruling by the commissioner, etc. Rose, on the other hand, had all of the benefits that those players never had ...... the strongest union in all of professional sports, free agency for the last 11 years of his career, arbitration for the last 15 years of his career, and lawyers and representatives that uneducated players from 100 years ago could only dream about.

Rose bet on games that he was playing in, and managing in, and as previously stated, had all of the luxuries that Shoeless Joe Jackson and Buck Weaver never had. Jackson did everything that he possibly could to not participate in the fixed 1919 World Series (including reporting the entire situation to the team owner prior to the start of the series, trying to give the team owner the money that was given to him that he didn't ask for in the first place, and telling his manager that he didn't want to play at all in the series before the manager coerced him into playing.) Buck Weaver specifically asked for a separate trial (and was denied) from the other accused players because he wanted nothing to do with the fix from the get-go, and never took a dime from the $80,000 that exchanged hands between the gamblers and the other 6 players who were involved in the fix.

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I think you can hate Rose and think the worse of him and still have compassion for Rodgers for all the reasons that myself and others have pointed out! As far Rose's ban goes, I don't remember if it was Faye Vincent or Bud Selig, but one of them said that their main problem with reinstating Rose was that he had never admitted to betting on baseball, and they clearly implied that if he was to do so it would certainly open the door to his possible reinstatement. Then when he did at least say what they wanted to hear, they basically just used it to beat him over the head with it and used it to justify the ban already in place!

I found their behavior dishonest and cruel...if you had no intention of seriously considering reinstatement, just move on instead of manipulating the guy into admitting to something just to make you feel powerful and justify your actions!

I think you may be a CletusPhobe!:D

I would say that I'm shocked at the sheer audacity of Tom Brady, but I'm not. He's a lying, cheating hypocrite through and through.

Betting for an NFL player is a hard fast rule. No wiggle room. To bad but it is what it is.

Whataboutism with Brady seems misplaced. He never bet on football. Betting almost took down one professional league in this country. When it happened people vowed to never let it happen again. Fair or not there hasn't been a hint of this (player gambling and throwing a game) in pro sports since then. Maybe coincidence but if I am in charge of a multi billion dollar business why chance it. It has become the third rail in pro sports.

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I do have compassion for Rodgers, and and even forgiveness.

These are portions of 2 of my previous posts in this thread ......

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Sorry, I see that now, not sure how I missed that? I think you are spot on, one year out and then provided he gets some help and shows the proper remorse for his actions he is reinstated. And personally, if that is what happens I hope the Colts give him another chance too!

Misplaced? Isn't the whole point of stopping athletes from betting on games to protect the integrity of the game? What's the difference to the integrity of the game if someone cheats to win money for themselves or cheats to win championships for themselves? Is the integrity of the game not ruined in both scenarios?

Exactly.

The rule is draconian for a reason. There can be no room for lawyers to find a way to make exceptions, and create a path to gamble and stay in the league. Just more $$$ and time wasted away from the game.