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YDFL Commish 04-03-2023 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 263025)
Probably referring to Carter, my guess?


They said on NFL Network Radio today that Jalen Carter has told teams outside of the top 10 in draft order, that he will not go for top 30 visits.

This kid just keeps digging a hole for himself? Seems to be one every year who shoots themselves in the foot.

As for Carter, I don't want him. Diva? Locker room cancer? Don't take that gamble !!! :cool:

Ballard would never take that kid in the top 10.

ChaosTheory 04-03-2023 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 263025)
Probably referring to Carter, my guess?


They said on NFL Network Radio today that Jalen Carter has told teams outside of the top 10 in draft order, that he will not go for top 30 visits.

This kid just keeps digging a hole for himself? Seems to be one every year who shoots themselves in the foot.

As for Carter, I don't want him. Diva? Locker room cancer? Don't take that gamble !!! :cool:

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 263027)
Ballard would never take that kid in the top 10.

That's unfortunate to hear about Carter. Being a shithead is one thing. Being a lazy shithead is another level of red flag.

To be fair, Ballard was part of the Chiefs staff that vetted and ultimately selected Marcus Peters (who had shown to be a shithead at Washington) at #18. Peters is uber-talented and can obviously play, but was still a shithead to the point of them getting rid of him after three years.

Of course Peters never showed up fat.

JAFF 04-03-2023 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 262983)
Because it would be stupid when that pick could be a stud player that helps the team win the next 4 years, rather than a QB with a high bust potential.

This is the example of, “you cant fix stupid”

Butter 04-04-2023 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 262984)
Well they're not trading to 1, at least they've made no indication of doing so as of yet, so they've already committed to a QB with high bust potential unless they go with Anderson or Carter. But doing that without Lamar is a huge risk.

I am not sure what this word salad means.

JAFF 04-04-2023 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 263061)
I am not sure what this word salad means.

I got on the interweb and asked miss cleo to tells us what this post meant. She said, “even psychics have their limits”.

Dam8610 04-04-2023 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 263061)
I am not sure what this word salad means.

-The Colts don't appear to be trading to 1.
-Stroud and Young will likely be drafted at 1 and 2.
-Levis and Richardson have high bust potential.
-If the Colts draft Levis or Richardson, they've committed to a QB with high bust potential.
-Alternatively, a defensive player could be drafted.
-Drafting a defensive player at 4 without having a solution in place at QB, such as Lamar Jackson, would be a large risk.

Clear?

Dewey 5 04-04-2023 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 263025)
Probably referring to Carter, my guess?


They said on NFL Network Radio today that Jalen Carter has told teams outside of the top 10 in draft order, that he will not go for top 30 visits.

This kid just keeps digging a hole for himself? Seems to be one every year who shoots themselves in the foot.

As for Carter, I don't want him. Diva? Locker room cancer? Don't take that gamble !!! :cool:

That's because some team more than likely told Drew Rosenhaus that if Carter is there they are taking him.

Butter 04-04-2023 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 263109)
-The Colts don't appear to be trading to 1.
-Stroud and Young will likely be drafted at 1 and 2.
-Levis and Richardson have high bust potential.
-If the Colts draft Levis or Richardson, they've committed to a QB with high bust potential.
-Alternatively, a defensive player could be drafted.
-Drafting a defensive player at 4 without having a solution in place at QB, such as Lamar Jackson, would be a large risk.

Clear?

You know Lamar is not happening right?, especially the way you imagine, there is the option to decide none of this year's "good" QBs are worth the cost to buy and set the franchise back 2-3 more years. Either acquire future picks in a trade down and snag a potential QB later or get the BPA at 4 and the BQB in the 2nd.

Dam8610 04-05-2023 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 263112)
You know Lamar is not happening right?, especially the way you imagine, there is the option to decide none of this year's "good" QBs are worth the cost to buy and set the franchise back 2-3 more years. Either acquire future picks in a trade down and snag a potential QB later or get the BPA at 4 and the BQB in the 2nd.

Anything that isn't trading to 1 or getting Lamar might as well be labeled "the Caleb Williams strategy" IMO. Of course Caleb Williams will likely be viewed at this time next year the way CJ Stroud is viewed now, so that should be interesting.

JAFF 04-05-2023 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 263021)
No to what? This makes no sense in context of the post you quoted.

To anything you have proposed. You have created a fantasy world

Dam8610 04-05-2023 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 263120)
To anything you have proposed. You have created a fantasy world

You must be addicted to mediocrity, too.

Lov2fish 04-05-2023 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 263121)
You must be addicted to mediocrity, too.

You're definitely divorced from reality. Mac Jones is on the trading block, should we set the franchise back and trade everything for him? He was your can't miss prospect not long ago, with the same bravado you want Stroud.

Dam8610 04-05-2023 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 263134)
You're definitely divorced from reality. Mac Jones is on the trading block, should we set the franchise back and trade everything for him? He was your can't miss prospect not long ago, with the same bravado you want Stroud.

That was before Belichick and Matt Patricia stunted his development significantly. I doubt Ballard is willing to stake his job to Mac Jones at this point. It would be a better bet than Will Levis or Anthony Richardson, though.

JAFF 04-05-2023 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 263121)
You must be addicted to mediocrity, too.

No, I suffer from an extreme case of reality. 53 guys need to get paid and you want to sign a first round and keep jackson and have $60 million tied up in 2 players.

Brylok 04-05-2023 01:13 PM

Three more weeks of this shit. Thank God baseball is back.

Dam8610 04-05-2023 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 263140)
No, I suffer from an extreme case of reality. 53 guys need to get paid and you want to sign a first round and keep jackson and have $60 million tied up in 2 players.

If the Colts sign Lamar Jackson, they'll have over $110 million tied up in 4 players.

Colts And Orioles 04-05-2023 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 263136)



That was before Belichick and Matt Patricia stunted his development significantly. I doubt Ballard is willing to stake his job to Mac Jones at this point. It would be a better bet than Will Levis or Anthony Richardson, though.





o


That's the same Bill Belichick who got the Patriots to go 11-5 with Matt Cassell at quarterback when Tom Brady missed the entire 2008 season with an injury.

o

Dam8610 04-05-2023 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 263148)
o


That's the same Bill Belichick who got the Patriots to go 11-5 with Matt Cassell at quarterback when Tom Brady missed the entire 2008 season with an injury.

o

Cool, he didn't have a defensive coach as his offensive coordinator at that time, but did have a Hall of Fame WR on the roster.

Colts And Orioles 04-05-2023 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 263149)



Cool, he didn't have a defensive coach as his offensive coordinator at that time, but did have a Hall of Fame WR on the roster.




o


Even more cool ...... Reggie Wayne, in similar fashion to Randy Moss in 2008, really made the difference in the Colts' 2011 season when they went 2-14 when Peyton Manning missed the entire season with an injury.

o

JAFF 04-05-2023 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 263144)
If the Colts sign Lamar Jackson, they'll have over $110 million tied up in 4 players.

Proving my point. Not sustainable

Dam8610 04-05-2023 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 263150)
o


Even more cool ...... Reggie Wayne, in similar fashion to Randy Moss in 2008, really made the difference in the Colts' 2011 season when they went 2-14 when Peyton Manning missed the entire season with an injury.

o

Cassel was a better QB than Curtis Painter, and the Cheaters defense didn't fall apart, probably because Belicheat used extra cheating.

ChaosTheory 04-05-2023 08:57 PM

2011 Colts and 2008 Patriots had a lot more going on than just the quality of the backup QB's. Colts offensive system was unique to Manning, he goes down, you can't run what you know.

We had also gradually lost a lot of unsung but important guys like our interior OL and LB's. Even back to 2009, Manning and the passing O was carrying the team. Undefeated team that ranked bottom of the league in rushing, run defense, TOP... same in 2010, and then 2011 had no passing O to help.

Chris Polian was three years in and we had a bunch of younger, weaker players replacing.

----

Meanwhile, the Patriots were one season removed from undefeated. Matt Cassel wasn't great but he wasn't trash. The main thing is that, yes, there was a downgrade in QB quality... but the Patriots offensive system didn't have to go back to formula when Brady went down.

Aside from QB, the little turnover they had included Richard fucking Seymour coming back and Roosevelt Colvin being replaced by top-10 draft pick Jerod Mayo. Their top-4 defense dropped to top-8.

The thing people tend to forget is that in 2009 when Brady came back... Patriots finished 10-6 with Brady, but that happened to be good enough for a division title unlike the 11-5 they posted with Cassel.

The only offensive change was adding Edelman and on defense they replaced Bruschi and Vrabel, but even Vrabel's replacement (Banta-Cain) had 10 sacks in 10 games and the defense was still 5th in scoring, 11th overall.

Colts And Orioles 04-05-2023 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 263167)



Cassel was a better QB than Curtis Painter, and the Cheaters defense didn't fall apart, probably because Belicheat used extra cheating.




o


Cassell might have gone 4-12 with that Colts team, instead of 2-14.

You remind me of Colin Ferguson, the guy who killed 6 people shooting up the Long Island Railroad in 1993 who then defended himself in court. He didn't convince the jury of his innocence, but he himself believed it.

o

CletusPyle 04-05-2023 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 263176)
o


Cassell might have gone 4-12 with that Colts team, instead of 2-14.

You remind me of Colin Ferguson, the guy who killed 6 people shooting up the Long Island Railroad in 1993 who then defended himself in court. He didn't convince the jury of his innocence, but he himself believed it.

o

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apballin 04-06-2023 10:13 AM

Would be interesting to see 3 of the top 4 end up in the AFC south and have to battle each other

Brylok 04-06-2023 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 263190)
Would be interesting to see 3 of the top 4 end up in the AFC south and have to battle each other

If that happened, Trevor Lawrence would become the Peyton Manning of the division.

apballin 04-06-2023 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 263194)
If that happened, Trevor Lawrence would become the Peyton Manning of the division.

So you’re saying that’s what’s gonna happen?

Or you’re saying the Titans are better with Willis?

Because if that’s how you feel I don’t see how the draft is gonna change your outlook

IndyNorm 04-07-2023 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 263194)
If that happened, Trevor Lawrence would become the Peyton Manning of the division.

That's impossible. Right Dam?

JAFF 04-07-2023 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 263238)
That's impossible. Right Dam?

This is why we need a rimshot emoji

Dam8610 04-07-2023 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 263238)
That's impossible. Right Dam?

Anything is possible. I'm fairly confident that won't happen, and you really should hope I'm right unless you want a decade of Jaguars dominance. I don't.


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