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Dam8610 03-21-2023 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 262175)
The thing with Lamar, whether it is a trade or offer on his tag is the financial ramification's that come with the fully guaranteed contract. Jackson depending on rumors is wanting north of the fully guaranteed $230,000,000 contract signed by Deshaun Watson with the Browns. I believe the owners are trying to steer clear of these contracts, while the NFLPA are advocating for them.

I believe the owners if I understand it correctly are required to follow the NFL's funding rule which stipulates that every fully guaranteed dollar owed to a player, but not yet paid to him, must be placed in a league-run escrow account. In other words, even if a player is owed guaranteed money over the course of three, four, or five years, ownership still must place all of that money into a separate bank account.

Some owners, their family members and or shareholders/partners, rely on income from the team for their livelihoods. Others, such as the Browns, who are owned by truck stop mogul Jimmy Haslam, who’s worth an estimated $5.5 billion, can afford to squirrel away $230 million more easily than some other organizations.

Regardless of whether or not a team, such as the Colts and Jim Irsay can afford it. I believe the consensus of the owners is to avoid such contracts.

Personally, I would rather go with a rookie QB pay scale and cap implications rather than one player eventually with a $50,000,000 cap hit hindering signing of others around him.

Just my $0.02 worth :cool:

The problem is either one is more or less a roulette wheel spin. With Lamar, you know you have an NFL caliber franchise QB, the risk is in the health. With drafting a rookie at #4 overall, unless it's somehow Stroud or Young, the bust potential is significant. The best move would be to figure out what the Panthers want for #1 and move up there, but I doubt Ballard is going to do that.

Discflinger 03-21-2023 06:47 AM

Trade back

Oldcolt 03-21-2023 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 262180)
The problem is either one is more or less a roulette wheel spin. With Lamar, you know you have an NFL caliber franchise QB, the risk is in the health. With drafting a rookie at #4 overall, unless it's somehow Stroud or Young, the bust potential is significant. The best move would be to figure out what the Panthers want for #1 and move up there, but I doubt Ballard is going to do that.

Still a spin of the roulette wheel, just a hell of a lot more expensive spin if you move to one.

Dam8610 03-21-2023 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 262226)
Still a spin of the roulette wheel, just a hell of a lot more expensive spin if you move to one.

I don't know of a roulette wheel that gives you better than 50/50 favorable odds.

apballin 03-21-2023 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 262226)
Still a spin of the roulette wheel, just a hell of a lot more expensive spin if you move to one.

I don’t see how this is any different than Buckner vs Kinlaw situation

Butter 03-21-2023 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 262240)
I don’t see how this is any different than Buckner vs Kinlaw situation

Other than the fact we are talking an order of magnitude more draft capital? yes, exactly the same.:rolleyes:

Oldcolt 03-21-2023 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 262235)
I don't know of a roulette wheel that gives you better than 50/50 favorable odds.

They do if I'm allowed to quote made up odds like you

Dam8610 03-21-2023 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 262261)
They do if I'm allowed to quote made up odds like you

There's a reason Stroud and Young are nearly universally seen as the top 2 picks in the draft, and Levis and Richardson are seen as high risk. I certainly can't control what the draft media posts.

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apballin 03-24-2023 02:11 PM

Is it strange the Colts didn’t talk to Levis at combine and only sent a couple scouts to his pro day? Seems like there would be more interest if he was the guy

Dam8610 03-24-2023 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 262291)

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rcubed 03-24-2023 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 262453)
Is it strange the Colts didn’t talk to Levis at combine and only sent a couple scouts to his pro day? Seems like there would be more interest if he was the guy

I read he is one of their top 30 interviews though.

CletusPyle 03-24-2023 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 262453)
Is it strange the Colts didn’t talk to Levis at combine and only sent a couple scouts to his pro day? Seems like there would be more interest if he was the guy

I agree, you should at least appear to be interested and interview him if for no other reason than to keep other teams guessing....but Ballard is a genius so we just need to relax!

apballin 03-24-2023 08:48 PM

Just read he’s been getting advice from Peyton so we’re getting all the info we need I’m sure

Dam8610 03-24-2023 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 262473)
I agree, you should at least appear to be interested and interview him if for no other reason than to keep other teams guessing....but Ballard is a genius so we just need to relax!

A genius would find a way to trade up to #1 overall.

JAFF 03-25-2023 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 262479)
A genius would find a way to trade up to #1 overall.

A genius on professional football would find a way to get a job with an NFL team.

Dam8610 03-25-2023 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 262483)
A genius on professional football would find a way to get a job with an NFL team.

There are so many people that actively prove this statement false.

Lov2fish 03-25-2023 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 262486)
There are so many people that actively prove this statement false.

The irony of "YOU" posting this is deafening.

Dam8610 03-25-2023 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 262490)
The irony of "YOU" posting this is deafening.

I wasn't referring to myself. Ask Quenton Nelson his thoughts on Brandon Thorn, who is not employed by an NFL team.

IndyNorm 03-26-2023 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 262498)
I wasn't referring to myself. Ask Quenton Nelson his thoughts on Brandon Thorn, who is not employed by an NFL team.

Don't sell yourself short Dam. You've obviously proved on here that you have one of the most knowledgeable football minds on the planet. Why NFL teams and sports media companies aren't banging down your door offering you millions for your services is one of life's greatest mysteries.


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