Originally Posted by Indystu2 (Post 251375)

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 283840)

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Michigan Secondary Tempers Marvin Harrison Jr. In Win Over Ohio State

(By Connor Earegood)

https://www.michigandaily.com/sports...er-ohio-state/

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 283846)

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This is what happens when he goes off.



THE CATCHES: ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM9eEgzw-Ko



Harrison Jr. the Difference as No. 3 Ohio State Beats No. 7 Penn State 20-12 in a Defensive Struggle

(Associated Press)

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...meId/401520343

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 284170)

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The Penn State game was almost all defense for both teams, and Harrison was far-and-away the biggest factor in that game ...... that was not the case in the Michigan game. I saw both games, and Harrison was clearly more dominant in the otherwise defensive-fueled Penn State game.

Holding Harrison to 5 catches and winning the game in which a total of 54 points were scored is similar to holding a prime Kareem-Abdul Jabbar to 25 points (instead of his his usual 35 points), and winning the game ...... something that Dave Cowens had a knack for doing when he played for the Celtics, even though he was only 6' 9" to Abdul-Jabbar's 7' 3".

There was no stopping Abdul-Jabbar in his prime, the best that you could do was to contain him ...... and the same is true of Marvin Harrison, Jr.

They probably should have used the term "contains" instead of "tempers."

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 284188)

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I didn't say that they shut him down. I specifically said that they contained him, and I specifically explained why. Don't put words in my mouth.

And I'll post as I please.

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 284210)

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They did. 5 catches (albeit for 118 yards) in a 30-24 game is doing a reasonably good job of containing Marvin Harrison, particularly when you win (which Michigan did.) Harrison is universally regarded as the best player in college football, and he may be the #1 overall draft pick next year. If he had had the game against Michigan that he did against Penn State, Ohio State most surely would have won. He didn't, and they lost.

Compared to an average player, Harrison had a really good game yesterday ...... by the standards of which Marvin Harrison Jr is judged by, he had a pretty good game yesterday, which, as I stated earlier, is all you can hope to do against such a great player.

Also, his average catches per-game is not as accurate of a barometer as are his individual games. He had 11 catches for 162 yards against Penn State, he had 8 catches for 163 yards against Maryland, and 7 catches for 149 yards against Michigan State. ...... on the other hand, he only had 3 catches for 30 yards against Minnesota, 4 catches 25 yards against Rutgers, and 2 catches 18 yards against Indiana. When being judged by NFL teams wanting to draft him, they aren't going to be looking at his aggregate average-per-game numbers, but rather the individual games in which he played in, at least 3 of which were monstrous.


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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 283843)

Not really ...... if that’s what they call tempers, hate to see what happens when a guy goes off.

Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 284258)

At the end of the day, I think MHJ has every possible chance to become a fricking superstar in the NFL. I think there are very, very few scenarioes where he does not have a huge impact on the team that drafts him from day one.

Alas, we are now out of the MHJ hunt which is sad because I would have loved to have seen him in Colts blue.

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 284239)

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I'm sorry that I called you a name.

I've deleted all of my posts, because I don't believe that our argument was worth it.

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 284259)

The Colts may not be out of the running for the kid from Washington, Rome Odunze, who just might be the second best WR in this years draft.

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 285689)

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Harrison has not made up his mind yet as to whether or not he will enter the 2023 NFL draft, or stay on for another year at Ohio State.



Staying or Leaving ??? Harrison's Future Undecided

(By Lauryn Luderman)

https://www.thelantern.com/2023/12/f...ure-undecided/

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 285738)

If he's getting 1st round money in NIL deals, why stay ???

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 285741)

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I don't know. Maybe he likes being in college.

Patrick Ewing won a national championship and an Olympic Gold Medal in 1984, and he chose to go back to Georgetown for another year instead of being the #1 overall pick in the NBA draft. When he was a star for the Knicks in the NBA in 1988, he said that he sometimes wished that he were still in college.

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 285751)

I don't see this thread as ever being Colts related, but it would be nice if it were to be.

Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 285751)

I don't see this thread as ever being Colts related, but it would be nice if it were to be.

Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 285769)

Any thread that even remotely touches Marvin Harrison is Colts related, IMO.

Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 285790)

Yes. I agree. I am just saying that the kid will likely be drafted way before we pick.

Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 285819)

I really don't give a crap about this guy. He isn't going to be a Colt so why should I care? His dad? Marvin had a prickly personality and disappeared in playoff games. Had one 100 yard game in playoffs (out of 16 games played) and it was in a blowout of Denver in a wild card game. He consistently came up small in the playoffs. He is way overrated on this board. Super star receivers come up big in big games, look at Jerry Rice. Marvin was a superstar regular season guy that couldn't do it post season. I know I am alone in this but I was never in love with the guy.

Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 285820)

Couldn't the same be said of Peyton, at least winning post season as opposed to regular season?

Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 285819)

I really don't give a crap about this guy. He isn't going to be a Colt so why should I care? His dad ??? ) Marvin had a prickly personality ) and disappeared in playoff games. Had one 100 yard game in playoffs (out of 16 games played) and it was in a blowout of Denver in a wild card game. He consistently came up small in the playoffs. He is way overrated on this board. Super star receivers come up big in big games, look at Jerry Rice. Marvin was a superstar regular season guy that couldn't do it post season. I know I am alone in this but I was never in love with the guy.

Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 285819)

I really don't give a crap about this guy. He isn't going to be a Colt so why should I care? His dad? Marvin had a prickly personality and disappeared in playoff games. Had one 100 yard game in playoffs (out of 16 games played) and it was in a blowout of Denver in a wild card game. He consistently came up small in the playoffs. He is way overrated on this board. Super star receivers come up big in big games, look at Jerry Rice. Marvin was a superstar regular season guy that couldn't do it post season. I know I am alone in this but I was never in love with the guy.

Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 285827)

Not really, at least in my mind. Peyton started very slowly in playoffs but after the first three years, from 2003 onward, he played well. Above 90 QB rating most years and above 100 for several. That he didn't win a ton is a knock against him but I feel it is more about the teams surrounding him. It is all opinion anyway and Peyton would most likely disagree with mine about Marvin.