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bigalbert 03-16-2022 04:25 PM

Heck argue all you want, he won in Cleveland for fricks sake. Plus add in that Cowherd hates him and all he’s ever done is win wherever he was. I’m good to go here. He should be healthy coming in tho is my concern. He was banged up pretty bad last year.


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apballin 03-16-2022 04:52 PM

Baker played better without OBJ

Throwing the diva in fucked his game up IMO and he played hurt all year

He made the fucking Browns relevant again

CletusPyle 03-16-2022 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 226135)
I will give up and the site goes to Smitty.

If you love me. Don't root for Baker here Although you may love Smitty more anyway. LOL

I will be done

FUCK BAKER MAYFIELD

Say it ain't so! This looks like it might happen....it might not be all that bad, Wentz could not become the player he once was, but maybe Baker Mayfield can?

apballin 03-16-2022 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 226280)
Say it ain't so! This looks like it might happen....it might not be all that bad, Wentz could not become the player he once was, but maybe Baker Mayfield can?

He runs the offense, takes what the defense is giving and most importantly gets it out of his hands quick

Reich was able to convince Luck to stop the hero ball unfortunately he wasn’t able to get that thru Wentz head

IndyNorm 03-16-2022 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 226294)
He runs the offense, takes what the defense is giving and most importantly gets it out of his hands quick

Reich was able to convince Luck to stop the hero ball unfortunately he wasn’t able to get that thru Wentz head

To be fair he did improve each year until last year, which could be mostly b/c he was hurt. His completion percentage isn't great and he throws too many picks, but maybe that can be coached out of him.

If we do trade for him I hope we don't have to give up too much draft pick wise b/c Ballard won't add anyone in FA except for a couple 1 year band aids.

bigalbert 03-16-2022 07:33 PM

Colts Twitter is going ham. Might be more than just smoke. Lol


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Ironshaft 03-16-2022 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bigalbert (Post 226307)
Colts Twitter is going ham. Might be more than just smoke. Lol


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What does that mean?

Puck 03-16-2022 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bigalbert (Post 226264)
Heck argue all you want, he won in Cleveland for fricks sake. Plus add in that Cowherd hates him and all he’s ever done is win wherever he was. I’m good to go here. He should be healthy coming in tho is my concern. He was banged up pretty bad last year.


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He only has one winning season in the NFL.

He has an overall 30-30 record in the NFL. He is not a winning QB

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/bak...cord-each-year

Dewey 5 03-16-2022 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 226308)
What does that mean?

Everyone going ape shit.

Hoopsdoc 03-16-2022 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 226220)
Like what is the most the Colts could give up in draft capital that would make people here not wretch? I know for some it's anything. For me it's:

1st Round Pick: Throwing up all season. That would be infuriating.
2nd Round Pick: Would be pretty damn upset
3rd Round Pick: About the most I could tolerate
4th-7th Round Pick: I'm fine with that

Of course, would the Browns trade him for just a 3rd round pick or worse? I don't think so.

Not talking about you specifically but I think, in general, fans assign way to much value to draft picks. If you can trade a pick to upgrade a position immediately, you do it. Draft picks are a low percentage gamble anyway, even with Ballard, who is pretty good at drafting.

If you’re the Colts and you have Ehlinger and a tomato can at quarterback, you HAVE to do whatever it takes to change that, even if it means trading away premium draft picks.

Hell, look at the Rams. They trade picks like candy and they just won the super bowl.

bigalbert 03-16-2022 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 226318)
He only has one winning season in the NFL.

He has an overall 30-30 record in the NFL. He is not a winning QB

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/bak...cord-each-year


Bud I’m a diehard Colts fan same as you but use some perspective. The Browns were 11-53 in the 4 seasons prior to Baker Mayfield. He was 30-30 in the 4 he spent there. That is winning


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Dewey 5 03-16-2022 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bigalbert (Post 226329)
Bud I’m a diehard Colts fan same as you but use some perspective. The Browns were 11-53 in the 4 seasons prior to Baker Mayfield. He was 30-30 in the 4 he spent there. That is winning


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And what 4 different coaches.

Hue Jackson & Gegg Williams in year 1
The great Freddie Kitchens in year 2
Kevin Stefanski 2020-2021

Puck 03-16-2022 11:13 PM

Here is what Mort had to say about Baker

https://omny.fm/shows/bull-fox/bull-...-comments-that

Brylok 03-17-2022 12:45 AM

I still have no idea what they're doing at QB. With Jacoby, Phil, and Wentz...we knew. This is bizarre.

CletusPyle 03-17-2022 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 226340)
I still have no idea what they're doing at QB. With Jacoby, Phil, and Wentz...we knew. This is bizarre.

Would they really have traded Wentz without knowing exactly what they were going to do at QB? If so, Ballard has balls of steel!

JAFF 03-17-2022 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 226346)
Would they really have traded Wentz without knowing exactly what they were going to do at QB? If so, Ballard has balls of steel!

And wears extra roomie boxers. My be exhausting walking around.

rcubed 03-17-2022 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 226346)
Would they really have traded Wentz without knowing exactly what they were going to do at QB? If so, Ballard has balls of steel!


Not necessarily. If irsay was truely driving getting rid of wentz then ballard could have just been following orders. I am sure they looked at the landscape and had plans of attack but knowing exactly… i doubt it. Too many unknowns.

Racehorse 03-17-2022 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 226346)
Would they really have traded Wentz without knowing exactly what they were going to do at QB? If so, Ballard has balls of steel!

Does this mean they think Sam is ready?

rm1369 03-17-2022 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 226359)
Does this mean they think Sam is ready?

Ready for what? I have no idea what some fans have seen to give them any indication Ehlinger is even bottom end starting quality. He’s a 6th rd pick who sucked in preseason, was injured and then wasn’t even the primary backup when one was necessary. If the Colt’s plans involve him starting it will truly be time to start calling for new leadership.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 03-17-2022 11:40 AM

FWIW - reportedly the Browns are out of the running for Watson.

https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/sta...74308982173701

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The Browns have been informed they’re out of the running for Deshaun Watson, a source says.

The team still views Baker Mayfield as their quarterback going forward. They told Mayfield’s agents at the Combine they’d only explore top-tier QBs such as Watson.
https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/sta...74632107159552

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Now, we wait to see how Baker Mayfield handles things after his statement the other day. In recent days, he’s told some Browns teammates he’s prepared for anything. Returning to Cleveland still very much an option.

JAFF 03-17-2022 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 226361)
Ready for what? .

There are so many options if they are NOT football related

Colts And Orioles 03-17-2022 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 226340)



I still have no idea what they're doing at QB ...... with Jacoby, Phil, and Wentz, we knew. This is bizarre.



o


We were in limbo for a couple of months after Rivers retired in January of 2021 and Wentz was signed in March of that same year.

o

ChaosTheory 03-17-2022 02:11 PM

So, if rumors are correct, we're essentially waiting on Deshaun Watson to get signed? One of these teams is going to bail on Mayfield, Ryan, or Winston and the Colts are ready to grab one?

I heard locally that Watson to CLE is off the table now. Anybody know if that's confirmed? I assume that means Mayfield to IND is off the table? So now Ryan or Winston.

I don't particularly like Winston... but I think I like him more than Mayfield. Ryan would be a no-brainer between the three, but apparently he fell off a cliff last season. Apparently ATL has to make a decision on Ryan's bonus before 4pm today.

Dewey 5 03-17-2022 03:50 PM

Mayfield has just requested to be traded.
https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/sta...41313420648450

Lov2fish 03-17-2022 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 226414)
Mayfield has just requested to be traded.
https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/sta...41313420648450

And the Browns say they won't trade him. The Browns being the Browns. Gonna be an awkward season for em. lol Only Cleveland can pull off this much front office dysfunction!

IndyNorm 03-17-2022 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 226346)
Would they really have traded Wentz without knowing exactly what they were going to do at QB? If so, Ballard has balls of steel!

I would have hoped that Ballard did have a plan in place, but it's looking like the only plan in place was to get rid of Wentz.

JAFF 03-17-2022 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 226454)
I would have hoped that Ballard did have a plan in place, but it's looking like the only plan in place was to get rid of Wentz.

He's batting .500 then, stop complaining. :D:eek::cool:

Lov2fish 03-17-2022 10:01 PM

Once the Watson debacle is settled you will see some movement on a QB. If he goes to Atlanta I would take Ryan nearing the end of his career versus those scrubs on the trash heap in free agency.

Puck 03-17-2022 11:05 PM

Just a reminder. FUCK BAKER!!!!

bigalbert 03-17-2022 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 226464)
Just a reminder. FUCK BAKER!!!!


Lol. I’m starting to hope he comes here and leads us in a deep run in the playoffs while you’re rooting for the Patriots?


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Puck 03-17-2022 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bigalbert (Post 226466)
Lol. I’m starting to hope he comes here and leads us in a deep run in the playoffs while you’re rooting for the Patriots?


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LOL. Touche'

I'd root for the Bills BTW LOL

Puck 03-18-2022 12:00 AM

My lean right now is (hear me out). Winston and 2 deep threat WR to compliment Pitt. And the D has to decide whether to worry about JT or the deep ball.

Can Frank draw that up?

Winston CAN throw the ball

Other than that... I got nothing

njcoltfan 03-18-2022 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 226468)
My lean right now is (hear me out). Winston and 2 deep threat WR to compliment Pitt. And the D has to decide whether to worry about JT or the deep ball.

Can Frank draw that up?

Winston CAN throw the ball

Other than that... I got nothing

Your guess is as good as anyone else's !! Would be nice if there was any sort of info coming from the Colt's facility, but alas it's just the sound of crickets. Still need QB, OT, WR, CB !! I wonder if Ballard had, or has a plan for replacing Wentz, or if he just got rid of him because Irsay wanted him to !!

MeSayDayo 03-18-2022 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 226468)
My lean right now is (hear me out). Winston and 2 deep threat WR to compliment Pitt. And the D has to decide whether to worry about JT or the deep ball.

Can Frank draw that up?

Winston CAN throw the ball

Other than that... I got nothing

In a sense, I think you are on to something. I would look for a deep threat WR even for trade if we need to. He doesn't have to be Elite, but must keep the D honest.
I wonder what it would take to get Gabriel Davis? Robby Anderson? Tyler Lockett? From what is left on the FA market, there isn't much to get excited about as far as deep threats are concerned. Desean Jackson? No thanks. Will Fuller? He'll be on IR by the end of OTAs. If only AB wasn't Batshit...but if he wasn't, I'm sure he would be well employed at the moment.
The guy doesn't necessarily have to produce, but at least make the D account for his deep presence. Opens things up for JT that much more, and nobody will respect that with Jimmy G or Baker or Ryan. But they will with Winston, because he has a cannon and he's not afraid to let it loose.

I am also disappointed that we haven't addressed TE beyond resigning MAC. For all his freakish abilities, he has shown a lack of fluidity in his route running and general uncomfortableness with absorbing contact.

Coltsalr 03-18-2022 09:16 AM

Gimme Matt Ryan.

He'd be Philip Rivers with more juice.

We were THIS close to beating Buffalo with Rivers. Football is a game of inches and if we have that extra spark with Ryan, this team could go places.

apballin 03-18-2022 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 226477)
Gimme Matt Ryan.

He'd be Philip Rivers with more juice.

We were THIS close to beating Buffalo with Rivers. Football is a game of inches and if we have that extra spark with Ryan, this team could go places.

Exactly this we’d be the 05 Seahawks—- run left every time and Matty Ice playing the role of Hasselbeck

apballin 03-18-2022 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 226468)
My lean right now is (hear me out). Winston and 2 deep threat WR to compliment Pitt. And the D has to decide whether to worry about JT or the deep ball.

Can Frank draw that up?

Winston CAN throw the ball

Other than that... I got nothing

Winston can throw picks, he is another Wentz

Coltsalr 03-18-2022 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 226486)
Exactly this we’d be the 05 Seahawks—- run left every time and Matty Ice playing the role of Hasselbeck

And we’d go to the Super Bowl and win if not for some bullshit ref calls and some trick plays?

I’ll take it!

Racehorse 03-18-2022 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 226361)
Ready for what? I have no idea what some fans have seen to give them any indication Ehlinger is even bottom end starting quality. He’s a 6th rd pick who sucked in preseason, was injured and then wasn’t even the primary backup when one was necessary. If the Colt’s plans involve him starting it will truly be time to start calling for new leadership.

I never said it was my thought. I was asking if the FO thought this.

Racehorse 03-18-2022 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 226468)
My lean right now is (hear me out). Winston and 2 deep threat WR to compliment Pitt. And the D has to decide whether to worry about JT or the deep ball.

Can Frank draw that up?

Winston CAN throw the ball

Other than that... I got nothing

I could go for that. He is probably the best option we have.


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