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JAFF 08-01-2021 04:42 PM

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...diate-surgery/

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Wentz will be able to get back on the field after suffering a foot injury and the answer may not be known for a while.

Word from the team on Saturday was that there’s no timetable and Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports that the initial treatment plan won’t bring one into focus for a bit.


Rapoport reports that Wentz is going to rest his foot and do other rehab work over the next few days rather than have surgery. If all goes well, Wentz could be able to play in the season opener. If not, surgery will be back on the table and an operation is expected to keep him out for the start of the regular season.

The ultimate answer to the question of Wentz’s return date will be of interest to the Eagles as well. If he plays 75 percent of the offensive snaps this year or 70 percent while piloting the Colts to the playoffs, the Eagles get a first-round pick in 2022. If not, a second-rounder goes to Philadelphia.

HoosierinFL 08-01-2021 05:02 PM

This makes it sound like plantar fasciitis

JAFF 08-01-2021 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 197784)
This makes it sound like plantar fasciitis

Hey, watch your language

CanuckColt 08-01-2021 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 197733)
Give Eason a shot but I’m really not optimistic. From the camp reports, sounds like he’s check down Charlie.

"check down Charlie"? If so, he will become a Brissett clone.

Where is Chad Kelly when we need him?

JAFF 08-01-2021 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CanuckColt (Post 197794)
"check down Charlie"? If so, he will become a Brissett clone.

Where is Chad Kelly when we need him?

He is available, I dont see him penciled in as a starter at the other 31 teams

YDFL Commish 08-01-2021 08:02 PM

Based on one practice, where the Colts were purposely working on 3rd and short situations, and you guys wanna call him "check down charlie"

Gimme a break, let's give the a realistic opportunity before labeling him.

Hoopsdoc 08-01-2021 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 197778)

So basically they’re hoping for a miraculous healing and the surgery is pretty much inevitable.

That’s how I’m reading this.

And the fact that they’re tossing this Hail Mary now instead of just having the surgery tells me the surgery won’t be as minor as they’d like us to believe.

The season is circling the drain at this point. I fully expect him to miss most, if not all, of the season.

JAFF 08-02-2021 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 197799)
So basically they’re hoping for a miraculous healing and the surgery is pretty much inevitable.

That’s how I’m reading this.

And the fact that they’re tossing this Hail Mary now instead of just having the surgery tells me the surgery won’t be as minor as they’d like us to believe.

The season is circling the drain at this point. I fully expect him to miss most, if not all, of the season.


https://youtu.be/0AEj3LA2vSo

Oldcolt 08-02-2021 09:13 AM

Nobody know what info Wentz got when he made his decision. Maybe rest has a 90% chance to work, we have no idea. It sounds like he may miss a few games. Gives us a chance to see what we have in Eason. This is a well rounded team. The sky isn’t falling. We took a hit. This is way better than when what’s his name retired on us before the season. Plus may save our first.

Hoopsdoc 08-02-2021 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 197816)
Nobody know what info Wentz got when he made his decision. Maybe rest has a 90% chance to work, we have no idea. It sounds like he may miss a few games. Gives us a chance to see what we have in Eason. This is a well rounded team. The sky isn’t falling. We took a hit. This is way better than when what’s his name retired on us before the season. Plus may save our first.

The initial claim, if I remember correctly, was that the surgery would have him back somewhere around week 1. If that’s accurate, there was really no reason not to have the surgery now.

It feels like this is a last ditched effort to avoid what would be a major surgery.

I take everything they say with a HUGE grain of salt. They are inveterate liars when it comes to quarterback injuries.

smitty46953 08-02-2021 11:56 AM

Wentz to have surgery, out 5-12 weeks :cool:

Stephen Holder
@HolderStephen

Breaking: Frank Reich says Carson Wentz had an old foot injury dating back to perhaps high school according to doctors. Over time, the broken bone came loose and caused pain. The decision has been made to undergo surgery and remove it. 5-12 weeks.


Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet

That was fast. #Colts QB Carson Wentz will have surgery to repair his foot, per coach Frank Reich. He’s out up to 12 weeks, but could be much less. They will remove a bone in his foot.

Racehorse 08-02-2021 12:21 PM

Surgery today to remove a bone?

Brylok 08-02-2021 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 197840)
Surgery today to remove a bone?

That's what I read a little while ago: 4PM surgery today. Recovery time is 5-12 weeks.
At least we'll keep our first round pick.

YDFL Commish 08-02-2021 01:29 PM

Not the end of the world. I suppose it's better than ligament damage.

I'm betting that we don't trade for a veteran until the staff feels confident that that Eason is not the answer.

So maybe similar to the Brissett trade, late pre-season or early season.

HoosierinFL 08-02-2021 02:20 PM

Eason has had a full year in the system, he's the obvious choice compared to bringing in some veteran who doesn't know the system.
They better not trade for Nick Foles.

nate505 08-02-2021 02:53 PM

So if it's 8 weeks, he'll miss the first three games. Sucks, but I guess it could be a lot worse.

If it's 5 weeks he won't miss any games.

Hoopsdoc 08-02-2021 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 197860)
So if it's 8 weeks, he'll miss the first three games. Sucks, but I guess it could be a lot worse.

If it's 5 weeks he won't miss any games.

I think missing training camp and preseason will hurt just as much as any games.

CaliColtsFan 08-02-2021 03:20 PM

Sad inside
 
I'm soooo bummed! :(

I had such High Hopes and there was already areas of concern...

I dunno what to think now.

JAFF 08-02-2021 03:24 PM

https://youtu.be/-9NMt42il4Q

rcubed 08-02-2021 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliColtsFan (Post 197869)
I'm soooo bummed! :(

I had such High Hopes and there was already areas of concern...

I dunno what to think now.


I am going into the season with no real expectations.


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apballin 08-02-2021 05:22 PM

We still win the division!!! Hope is not lost, this team is solid top to bottom run the ball and play D

Don’t jump off the train Colts fans we’re fine

smitty46953 08-02-2021 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliColtsFan (Post 197869)
I'm soooo bummed! :(

I had such High Hopes and there was already areas of concern...

I dunno what to think now.

Already bet on Colts winning over 9.5, see if odds change to add to bet. Win/win I hope :cool:

apballin 08-02-2021 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 197896)
Already bet on Colts winning over 9.5, see if odds change to add to bet. Win/win I hope :cool:

They went from +110 to +160 to win the division

Chromeburn 08-03-2021 09:44 AM

What a shitshow. Now every team’s fanbase thinks we are going to trade for their QB trash. All it will cost us is Buckner or some other star.

nate505 08-03-2021 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 197889)
We still win the division!!! Hope is not lost, this team is solid top to bottom run the ball and play D

Don’t jump off the train Colts fans we’re fine

I'm honestly not that worried. I mean, it sucks and all, but this feels different from the 2019 season where once Luck retired, the team didn't have enough to compete with him. Now, granted, many are the same guys, but they are more experienced and have established their identity. Plus guys like Taylor and Buckner have made the running game and defense a lot better.

Plus I'm excited to see how Eason can do.

Of course this opinion can come crashing down to reality in a couple months.

nate505 08-03-2021 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 197929)
What a shitshow. Now every team’s fanbase thinks we are going to trade for their QB trash. All it will cost us is Buckner or some other star.

Yeah, I was looking at some Raiders page that popped up randomly on my news feed.

"Mariotta for the Colts' 3rd round pick seems fair!" Yeah, sure. And that probably isn't even the worst of them.

Oldcolt 08-03-2021 10:53 AM

I don't understand those who think the season is over. Wentz will miss from 0 to 5 games. Not working with the receivers will make it that we probably don't start fast offensively when he does come back. It isn't career threatening. I am not happy but jeez I certainly am not giving up on the season. Lewis apparently looks great, Turay and Banogu have also looked good. Doesn't mean anything is set in stone but shit I have never read anything positive about Banogu since he got here. Paye has shown flashes as a pass rusher, albeit against Tevi. If any two of these guys are for real as pass rushers this team will be a beast defensively. Nobody has any idea of what kind of qb Eason is, that could be something that Reich uses to his advantage for the first few games. Lot of pressure on him to game plan the hell out it. Not a high probability but not zero. Right before we won the Super Bowl we gave up a gazillion yard rushing to Jacksonville. I don't think there was a person on the board who thought we would win it all. You never know what will happen. I for one am glad that there appears to be zero panic from administration so far.

rcubed 08-03-2021 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 197929)
What a shitshow. Now every team’s fanbase thinks we are going to trade for their QB trash. All it will cost us is Buckner or some other star.

the amount of times I have heard nick foles mentioned in the last two days is astronomical.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 08-03-2021 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 197939)
the amount of times I have heard nick foles mentioned in the last two days is astronomical.


Including from Nick Foles himself. He is sort of lobbying for a trade to Indy without directly saying it.

https://twitter.com/AndrewSiciliano/...43543783989267

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Nick Foles: “Listen, Frank Reich is one of my favorite, if not favorite, coaches of all time.”

“I haven’t had any talks with them. I’m a Chicago Bear right now. But he knows me."
https://twitter.com/AndrewSiciliano/...44149332484108

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He goes on to say Carson is their QB and Wentz will get healthy.

Foles says there were trade talks with other teams in the offseason.

“The version of right now is the version of me that is much better than the one that played in the Super Bowl."

Brylok 08-03-2021 01:33 PM

Who, let alone an NFL quarterback, has a broken bone in their foot since high school? LOL, c'mon now. Nonsense.

Hoopsdoc 08-03-2021 05:50 PM

Holder and Keefer think it’s possible that he’s back by week 1, but not likely.

apballin 08-03-2021 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 198024)
Holder and Keefer think it’s possible that he’s back by week 1, but not likely.

So week 2?

rcubed 08-03-2021 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 198032)
So week 12?

Fixed


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apballin 08-04-2021 05:13 AM

I have more faith in Nelson’s toughness wouldn’t surprise me if he’s in there week 1

rcubed 08-04-2021 10:52 AM

Per LA Times Sam Farmer:

Spent the first half of the day with Philip Rivers who assures me that, while he's focused on coaching high school football now, he isn't closing the door on coming back for a stint late in the season if there's an NFL team that needs him.

— Sam Farmer (@LATimesfarmer) August 3, 2021

CaliColtsFan 08-04-2021 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 198072)
Per LA Times Sam Farmer:

Spent the first half of the day with Philip Rivers who assures me that, while he's focused on coaching high school football now, he isn't closing the door on coming back for a stint late in the season if there's an NFL team that needs him.

— Sam Farmer (@LATimesfarmer) August 3, 2021

Wouldn't Rivers be a good fill-in for us if Wentz misses the first 5 games or so? 💙

Colts And Orioles 08-04-2021 05:21 PM

o


Last year, the Colts showed they were a complete team with a 39 year-old Philip Rivers as their QB. Rivers was a great quarterback in his prime, and he was still a very good quarterback last year, but he had the mobility of a turtle ...... and he was literally untouched in the playoff game against the Bills in 46 pass attempts.

I agree with apballin on this one ..... we got this.

The Colts will play the Patriots in the 2021 AFC championship game that is played in January of 2022.

o

Racehorse 08-04-2021 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliColtsFan (Post 198102)
Wouldn't Rivers be a good fill-in for us if Wentz misses the first 5 games or so? 💙

He has coaching obligations, so it would be more like the last 5 gamers, not the first 5.


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