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JAFF 01-23-2021 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Session (Post 184893)
He knew what he signed up for, I'm tired of people giving him an out for this.

I'm not judging him for walking away. Objectively it's smart. He's made generational wealth; Why continue? He does not get a pass for hustling everyone, even if it wasn't intentional, on who he was.

Clearly he did not know he was incapable of handling the burdens as they relate to the sport. I thought I was invincible when I was a kid too.

I MAINTAIN - Manning broke his fucking neck and won a superbowl, and we sent him packing because this dude sold us on something he was not able to provide. If he was as passionate about the job as Manning, Brady, Brees, and every other generational quarterback he was supposed to be like, he would not have walked away from the team when it was finally ready to make deep playoff runs.

So he should risk his health to keep you happy. Ok

JAFF 01-23-2021 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 184905)
It's "amazing" that other fans have a different opinion about Luck than you do. Alrighty then.

So I’m not allowed to have my opinion? I’m not looking at this from the point of winning Super Bowl’s, it’s about him as a person.

Its a game. He didn’t desert his post in the military. He didn’t steal money out of your pocket. He suffered an internal injury when he got buggy whipped down at the Denver game and could’ve lost his life. And that’s not why he quit. He’s been rehabbing his leg for two straight years and it just wasn’t responding.

His body failed him.

Was he supposed to die out there for you fans?

IndyNorm 01-23-2021 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 184913)
So I’m not allowed to have my opinion? I’m not looking at this from the point of winning Super Bowl’s, it’s about him as a person.

Its a game. He didn’t desert his post in the military. He didn’t steal money out of your pocket. He suffered an internal injury when he got buggy whipped down at the Denver game and could’ve lost his life. And that’s not why he quit. He’s been rehabbing his leg for two straight years and it just wasn’t responding.

His body failed him.

Was he supposed to die out there for you fans?

If Luck had retired with the same timing as AC or Rivers then there would be a lot less hard feelings, but with him retiring 1 week before the season starts it's hard to overlook thoughts that he screwed the Colts and quit on him teammates (and on a possible SB contending team).

Also, where'd you get the rehabbing his ankle for 2 years from? Luck wasn't listed on the injury report for the entire 2018 season.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...8_injuries.htm

njcoltfan 01-23-2021 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 184913)
So I’m not allowed to have my opinion? I’m not looking at this from the point of winning Super Bowl’s, it’s about him as a person.

Its a game. He didn’t desert his post in the military. He didn’t steal money out of your pocket. He suffered an internal injury when he got buggy whipped down at the Denver game and could’ve lost his life. And that’s not why he quit. He’s been rehabbing his leg for two straight years and it just wasn’t responding.

His body failed him.

Was he supposed to die out there for you fans?

I could be wrong ( probably am ) but wasn't the leg injury due to some sort of skiing or snowboarding accident?

apballin 01-23-2021 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 184914)
If Luck had retired with the same timing as AC or Rivers then there would be a lot less hard feelings, but with him retiring 1 week before the season starts it's hard to overlook thoughts that he screwed the Colts and quit on him teammates (and on a possible SB contending team).

Also, where'd you get the rehabbing his ankle for 2 years from? Luck wasn't listed on the injury report for the entire 2018 season.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...8_injuries.htm

I believe he wanted to retire right after the loss in KC, strongly believe he was coaxed into return when he didn’t wanna play anymore and after going thru the motion and all the bs charades he finally said he couldn’t do it

He gave everything he had I have no Ill will towards him. We could’ve had a QB by now I believe they were delaying the inevitable in hopes Luck came back. We had many options and we went with Rivers. We’ll get our QB hell it may be Brissett. I’d prefer one on a rookie contract

Puck 01-23-2021 11:10 AM

What would be your take on Trubisky?

I've never really liked him but then again it could be just because he's with the Bears. FA and he's mobile, has a decent arm. Played pretty well at the end of the season.

JAFF 01-23-2021 11:35 AM

Problem solved

http://https://profootballtalk.nbcsp...mpression=true

njcoltfan 01-23-2021 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 184921)

Site can’t be reached

JAFF 01-23-2021 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 184922)
Site can’t be reached

If at first you dont succeed


https://www.nfl.com/news/ravens-waiv...-three-seasons

rcubed 01-23-2021 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 184922)
Site shouldn’t be reached


Fixed it.


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Mr. Session 01-23-2021 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 184912)
So he should risk his health to keep you happy. Ok

No, Dam, that's not what I said.

Brylok 01-23-2021 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 184913)
Was he supposed to die out there for you fans?


Yeah, I'm sure death figured in. Twenty nine is a long road for anyone.

Brylok 01-23-2021 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 184920)
What would be your take on Trubisky?


We're in interesting times, but I hope we're not that desperate. Talk about lowered expectations. Hell no.

Spike 01-23-2021 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 184934)
We're in interesting times, but I hope we're not that desperate. Talk about lowered expectations. Hell no.

Totally agree, no damn way I want to see Trubisky in a Colts uniform.

Racehorse 01-23-2021 03:46 PM

I am one that sees the Luck situation as unfortunate, and tire of the group that has to trash the guy every chance they get. However, I usually just refrain from replying. I don’t like to beat a dead (or live) horse, being one myself.

JAFF 01-23-2021 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 184931)
Yeah, I'm sure death figured in. Twenty nine is a long road for anyone.

The Indianapolis Colts announced Tuesday that Luck will miss 2-6 weeks with a lacerated kidney and a partial tear of an abdominal muscle. The team says the injuries will not require surgery and a full recovery is expected.

If Methodist hospital were further away, you dont know what could have happened.

He took a beating every Sunday while they couldnt fix the O line.

Mr. Session 01-23-2021 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 184937)
I am one that sees the Luck situation as unfortunate, and tire of the group that has to trash the guy every chance they get. However, I usually just refrain from replying. I don’t like to beat a dead (or live) horse, being one myself.

I think it's unfortunate too, and I tire of the group that always makes him out to be a victim. I just don't believe he is a victim.

The horse is dead though. It's dead. We can all agree on that.

JAFF 01-23-2021 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Session (Post 184945)
I think it's unfortunate too, and I tire of the group that always makes him out to be a victim. I just don't believe he is a victim.

The horse is dead though. It's dead. We can all agree on that.

Luck is not the victim. He made a choice. He walked away while he could. Which may make him in the minority, but its his life and he is free to retire and go do something else.

Racehorse 01-23-2021 07:24 PM

Stafford is in the trade block. Ballard, do something!

JAFF 01-23-2021 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 184952)
Stafford is in the trade block. Ballard, do something!

All it takes is $$$$$

Spike 01-23-2021 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 184955)
All it takes is $$$$$

There are a few teams who need QB's. It will come down to whatever team offers the most. The Colts can shed a big chunk of change since Rivers retired and cutting Brisket. All good QB's cost money!

YDFL Commish 01-23-2021 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 184920)
What would be your take on Trubisky?

I've never really liked him but then again it could be just because he's with the Bears. FA and he's mobile, has a decent arm. Played pretty well at the end of the season.

It would be like signing Jeff George.

JAFF 01-23-2021 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 184936)
Totally agree, no damn way I want to see Trubisky in a Colts uniform.

Now that you put that out there, the colts will get him.

JAFF 01-23-2021 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 184967)
It would be like signing Jeff George.

Jeff George’s one armed brother

TheMugwump 01-24-2021 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 184967)
It would be like signing Jeff George.

With more mobility and far, far less 'arm talent'.

albany ed 01-24-2021 05:55 PM

On another note, looks like Brady is well on his way to another Super Bowl.

Racehorse 01-24-2021 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 185073)
On another note, looks like Brady is well on his way to another Super Bowl.

GB is making it interesting.

Racehorse 01-24-2021 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 185083)
o

When the Colts were losing to the Patriots by a score of 21-3 late in the 1st half of the 2006 AFC championship game, one of my older brothers emailed me to say that he was hoping that this would be the year for my beloved Colts, but it didn't look like it.

o

Gaydy just threw another pick, lolol

Colts And Orioles 01-24-2021 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 185073)



On another note, it looks like Brady is well on his way to another Super Bowl appearance.





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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 185082)



Green Bay is making it interesting.




o

When the Colts were losing to the Patriots by a score of 21-3 late in the 1st half of the 2006 AFC championship game, one of my older brothers emailed me to say that he was hoping that this would be the year for my beloved Colts, but it apparently was not.

o

Colts And Orioles 01-24-2021 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 185085)
o

When the Colts were losing to the Patriots by a score of 21-3 late in the 1st half of the 2006 AFC championship game, one of my older brothers emailed me to say that he was hoping that this would be the year for my beloved Colts, but it apparently was not.

o


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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 185084)



Gaydy just threw another pick, lolol.




o

The Packers have a big edge in time off possessions and plays run on offense ...... I'm hoping that that becomes a factor as this 4th quarter progresses.

o

Racehorse 01-24-2021 06:42 PM

Gaydy throws another pick, LMAO

Colts And Orioles 01-24-2021 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 185085)
o

When the Colts were losing to the Patriots by a score of 21-3 late in the 1st half of the 2006 AFC championship game, one of my older brothers emailed me to say that he was hoping that this would be the year for my beloved Colts, but it apparently was not.

o

o

A) ) I was hoping that Rodgers and the Packers were able to repeat what Manning and the 2006 Colts did 14 years ago.

B) ) Tough break for the Packers on the pass interference call late in the 4th quarter which gave the Buccaneers a 1st down, instead of them being forced to punt.

C) ) The Packers getting burned for a 49-yard TD pass when the Buccaneers had no timeouts and only 8 seconds left to play in the 1st half was inexcusable ...... it was on par with the 2012 Denver Broncos coughing up the game-tying, 70-yard TD pass when the Ravens had no timeouts and only 30 seconds left to play in the 4th quarter of that season's divisional playoff game. That gaffe cost Peyton Manning a chance to beat Brady in yet another conference championship game (Manning's teams were 3-1 in such games against Brady's teams when Manning retired), and what very well may have been a 3rd Super Bowl ring (in addition to the one that he won 6 years earlier, and the 2nd one that he won 3 years later.)

o

Spike 01-24-2021 07:59 PM

Packer coaches were stupid today, including the defensive coordinator.

Puck 01-24-2021 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 185102)
Packer coaches were stupid today, including the defensive coordinator.

Rogers was stupid for not running that 3rd down instead of that weak ass pass he tried

rcubed 01-24-2021 09:29 PM

If someone asked who would get back to SB first, brady or belicheck, i would have put my money on belicheck

For fucks sake. We are in for more tom terrific. God i hope he loses the SB.


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Chromeburn 01-24-2021 09:36 PM

People are going nuts for Stafford on twitter. Great, do we trade in one guy who can’t get to the big game for a guy who can’t even win a playoff game.

Also as I watch the Bills. I can’t help but wonder if the rumors that luck tried to retire in January are true. That would mean we went into the draft knowing that and we drafted Nelson instead of Josh Allen.

JAFF 01-24-2021 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 185125)
People are going nuts for Stafford on twitter. Great, do we trade in one guy who can’t get to the big game for a guy who can’t even win a playoff game.

Also as I watch the Bills. I can’t help but wonder if the rumors that luck tried to retire in January are true. That would mean we went into the draft knowing that and we drafted Nelson instead of Josh Allen.

If that is true, then the colts deserve what they get.

apballin 01-24-2021 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 185125)
People are going nuts for Stafford on twitter. Great, do we trade in one guy who can’t get to the big game for a guy who can’t even win a playoff game.

Also as I watch the Bills. I can’t help but wonder if the rumors that luck tried to retire in January are true. That would mean we went into the draft knowing that and we drafted Nelson instead of Josh Allen.

Nelson is more valuable than Josh Allen, I’d still take Nelson over him today

Dam8610 01-24-2021 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 185125)
People are going nuts for Stafford on twitter. Great, do we trade in one guy who can’t get to the big game for a guy who can’t even win a playoff game.

Also as I watch the Bills. I can’t help but wonder if the rumors that luck tried to retire in January are true. That would mean we went into the draft knowing that and we drafted Nelson instead of Josh Allen.

January of 2019, after the playoff loss in KC, and a full 9 months after the Colts drafted Nelson, is when Luck was contemplating retirement according to the rumor. There were no QBs not named Kyler Murray worth taking in the 2019 NFL draft.

daedge 01-24-2021 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 185122)
If someone asked who would get back to SB first, brady or belicheck, i would have put my money on belicheck

For fucks sake. We are in for more tom terrific. God i hope he loses the SB.


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Shame on the entire NFC for letting that old prick join a so, so team and take them to the Super Bowl.


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