Rivers was signed mainly due to his familiarity with reich and his system. One year contract for middle of the pack money (see above post), not top 5 money which also didnt really have any issues regarding our cap. The colts knew they couldnt trot brissett out there for another full season. Dont see why you are struggling with this.


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Rivers no longer has the arm strength to really utilize Hilton best, the deep throws. Thats a big part of the problem.

I guess what I'm struggling with is that even though it's one year, no one on the Colts has a higher cap hit. And, between Rivers and Brissette, the cap hit is 46 million. That tells me that we need help in evaluating QB talent, especially before throwing large sums of money on middle to low level talent players. Ballard has strengths in evaluating talent, but apparently, that does not include QB talent.

I really thought that when they signed Rivers for 25 million, they were sure of his arm strength. It's not my money, but it is my favorite team and after 5 games there is one certainty, Rivers has lost a lot of the skills he once had and management should have been able to know that before giving him "middle of the pack" millions.

I see it more that ballard hasnt found a QB that he wants to sink long term big cap hits into. I get the short term money for rivers. I get why they signed brissett at the time, but I think they gave him too much. I agree that 46M for the two is too much, but at least it doesnt extend beyond this season.

I know its rumormill churn, but I am starting to see "Dak to Colts" surface...

I agree short term for unsure things, but the QBs I mentioned before Bridgewater, Newton and Dalton were all signed short term for a pittance of what the Colts paid Rivers. The big price paid to Rivers made me think that they were reasonably sure that he was solid and that his arm was strong. If they weren't sure, don't give him 25 million unless he can prove it.

From what I can see, Rivers has not lost any arm strength, I've seen him make some decent throws outside the numbers that Brees would not even attempt, because of his weak arm and that Jackson doesn't attempt because he's not accurate enough.

Arm strength is overrated for deep balls, that's much more about seeing it early, timing and accuracy. Besides if TY catches that bomb at home, that he lost in the sun, we wouldn't even being having this conversation.

Say want you want about Rivers throwing motion, but it actually leads to a very quick release, which leads to less sacks, pressures etc.

Now if you want to critique Rivers decision making then, that's where the problems really have been noticeable. I believe some of that is losing Mack, Campbell and Pittman and not really having enough reps with everyone in this offense, especially TY.

Ugh, Dak would likely be an improvement but I still think he is a 10-15 qb in this league at best.

That's all this team would need.

I honestly think we should shoot higher. We thought our oline would be better than it has so far.


FYI ESPN thinks we should trade for Darnold.

ESPN trade proposals

Interesting. If the Jets really are 0-8 on Nov 3, I could see a midseason trade like this, particularly if the Jets' primary competitors for the No. 1 pick have each won a game or two by that point. This would give the acquiring team an opportunity to assess Darnold in their offense before making a decision on the fifth year option, so the Jets could probably extract maximum value at that point.

The Colts as a midseason destination might pose some obstacles in my view. First, we'd almost certainly have to get rid of one of the QBs on our roster (bye Jacoby - unless Eason is really stinking up the joint and we want to gamble on getting him to the practice squad). Second, I don't know if the Colts would be able to give Darnold a lot of playing time if they are in the playoff race as expected, and how prepared could he be to contribute coming into a new offense at that point?

You could cut another position and keep four QB's. Darnold's value is maxed right now just so a team could evaluate him. But I don't know how much evaluation you are going to get in a covid half-season. After the trade deadline, his value starts to go down and you could get him cheaper the closer to the draft you go or maybe even sign him as a free agent. We can wait till draft day, no one is banging the door down for Darnold.

I've been very critical of Rivers on this post, but in reality, he is the one who the team must rely on. Getting Darnold halfway through the season is lunacy. Who knows, maybe Rivers can correct his errors, and actually, the team has been down several offensive starters, so maybe when they come back, Rivers can be effective. No choice right now, he is the best option going forward.

Getting Darnold wouldn't be for this year. Honestly its Rivers or bust for the rest of the season. We've seen what Brisset can do.

Yeah, that's pretty much where we are now. I hate participation trophies and banners that state Wild Card participant. That's nothing but a loser mentality.

I just hope Frank has lit into him for the poor decisions.

They certainly don’t air their dirty laundry. They all stay on message when talking to the media. But they say one thing and do another. Remember when Jacoby was a top 20 QB? Then they replaced him.

Anyone calling for Brissett to start is dumb and can't recall last season. Also, Reich is not starting Eason unless something catastrophic happens. So this season is ride or die with Rivers for better or worse.

Start playing Tapps......

I’m starting to think Reich let’s his emotions cloud his judgement with older players he was doing the same thing last year with vinateti when it was clear he was done, now here we go down the same road with Rivers

Blake Bortles just got cut.................

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(vs. BENGALS, 10/18)


Excellent game overall for Rivers today, with 1 bad decision which resulted in an INT.

I believe that the announcers stated that he threw for more yards in the 2nd quarter than he has for his entire 17-year career.


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Blake Bortles is still available

This made me fall out of my chair. Nice.

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Riding the Philip Rivers Roller-Coaster, and Wondering If Seeing Really is Believing

(By Jim Ayello)

https://www.indystar.com/story/sport...ng/3683737001/

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Sorry JAFF, after there were no takers league-wide for Bortles, the Broncos put him back on their PS:

https://www.profootballrumors.com/20...practice-squad

Your dream of seeing him decked out in a Colts uniform will have to remain a dream for now...

Not good at detecting sarcasim, are you?

Depends on the person...

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(vs. LIONS, 11/01)


Another solid game for Rivers this afternoon.

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Yes it was. Especially considering until near the end, the run game was piss poor. I really expected to see a stellar run game this year, but Mack down early kind of hurt, but the line, so far is all hat and no cattle. What's up with that?

I’ll try putting more emphasis on the right syllable

Man, I gotta admit it. I was wrong about Rivers.

He is still going to have bad games. But right now he is second against the blitz in the league. And despite the bad start for the running game. He is doing well.

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(vs. TITANS, 11/12)


Rivers rebounded nicely from the Ravens game, which was just 3 days earlier.

Reich also made good use of Jacoby Brissett on 3rd down and 1 from the Titans' 2-yard-line.

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Rivers' issues are in his head. He think we need him to put the team on his back and carry games for us. We don't, we need him to drive the bus. Be smart, accurate and careful with the ball.

Rivers has the mental ability to know that TY hilton has a step on his defender and will be open deep. He need to have the mental ability to realize that he also lacks the arm strength to get it to him.

Do the Colts have any shot at Zach Wilson or Kyle Trask? My guess is no unless they fall apart for the rest of the season, but I think Reich would be able to build an offense around either of them.

The Eason kid is off the radar?

Not at all. Got any film on him so we can see if he's improved at reading coverages or not overreacting to pressure? I absolutely hope Eason gets a chance, but he's the only QB on the roster after this season. I don't like the idea of hinging the success or failure of the otherwise loaded roster the Colts have on the QB market in free agency or a 4th round pick who has never played an NFL snap. Solving the QB position is the only thing left for this roster to be a Super Bowl contender long term. If a few resources are burnt in that quest, so be it.

They would have to trade up, not sure what the cost would be. Probably in the back half of top ten at the highest. 10-15 range is likely. There are already 3 QBs with top ten ratings ahead of them.

Wilson has an impressive arm and makes some unorthodox throws. But 6’3 210lbs is skinny. Kid is going to have to eat some pie.

I see elements of Russell Wilson and Patrick Mahomes in Wilson's game. Not saying he'll be as good as those guys, but those are the QBs I think he would look like in his best case scenario.

Kyle Trask actually reminds me a lot of a poor man's Luck, especially because he always seems to make one or two boneheaded decisions in a game.