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ChoppedWood 11-07-2019 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by indycolts2 (Post 141287)
Yup, Luck fucked the organization and its fanbase...no doubt. We are allowed to say that while at same time recognizing he got effed by Grigson, Pagano and last but not least Irsay.

Interesting take...

Gotta turn it into a Topic now- thanks for stirring the pot!

omahacolt 11-08-2019 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by indycolts2 (Post 141287)
Yup, Luck fucked the organization and its fanbase...no doubt. We are allowed to say that while at same time recognizing he got effed by Grigson, Pagano and last but not least Irsay.

You are dumb

Chromeburn 11-08-2019 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by indycolts2 (Post 141287)
Yup, Luck fucked the organization and its fanbase...no doubt. We are allowed to say that while at same time recognizing he got effed by Grigson, Pagano and last but not least Irsay.

Luck loved Pagano. I wonder if Luck never took to the new leadership. I think all the rehab time made him withdraw from the team and the camaraderie of the locker room.

This will not be a popular take, In the back of my mind, I wonder if Luck looked at all the money we are not spending and the talk of rebuilding despite making the playoffs and thought why kill myself if they are not willing to commit and win now. I know the philosophy of building the team rah rah. But the thought keeps popping into my head.

indycolts2 11-08-2019 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 141315)
You are dumb

You're an ass!

rcubed 11-08-2019 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 141334)
Luck loved Pagano. I wonder if Luck never took to the new leadership. I think all the rehab time made him withdraw from the team and the camaraderie of the locker room.

This will not be a popular take, In the back of my mind, I wonder if Luck looked at all the money we are not spending and the talk of rebuilding despite making the playoffs and thought why kill myself if they are not willing to commit and win now. I know the philosophy of building the team rah rah. But the thought keeps popping into my head.

I dont think so. Clearly the line was heavily addressed and luck had a fantastic year in the new system. I take him at his word that he just got tired of dealing with injuries. Dude is intelligent, rich, starting a family - I assume he didnt want his body destroyed for the rest of his life.

indycolts2 11-11-2019 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 141334)
Luck loved Pagano. I wonder if Luck never took to the new leadership. I think all the rehab time made him withdraw from the team and the camaraderie of the locker room.

This will not be a popular take, In the back of my mind, I wonder if Luck looked at all the money we are not spending and the talk of rebuilding despite making the playoffs and thought why kill myself if they are not willing to commit and win now. I know the philosophy of building the team rah rah. But the thought keeps popping into my head.

Anything's possible with Lucks thought process. However he could not possibly have been blind to the extensions he saw being given to players Ballard was identifying as needed moving forward. Just as we all know who is coming up for free agency that are crucial to team success so did Luck. I mean this ultra intelligent geek sees the success of two consecutive drafts with occasional free agent signings such as Ebron last year and then Funchess for this year as well as Houston. He's got a GM with a knack for bringing in highly productive UDFA players, drafts extremely well, wants to resign those who are productive and earning extensions. You say he loved Pagano and I've got no doubt he did but once again he can't be blind to the pure ineptness of Pagano as a HC. He must have appreciated what Reich brought to the team last year...it's night and day comparing Reich to Pagano and not even close.

This is a weird time to be a Colts fan. We've seen what spending money and trying to win now was like under Manning. The Atlanta Braves of the NFL and we got to see meaningful football just about every January but not February. We saw what Colts looked like with Luck last year after the cobwebs were shaken off and everyone got on same page. Then add Houston and Funchess along with another draft class. Everyone touting the Colts as an AFC title contender until the mystery calf injury comes out of nowhere.

I know this, I'm over Andrew Luck. Appreciate all he did while playing. I find it unforgiveable that he did what he did in the manner he did it. Could care less when a player wants to retire but the timing is everything and his was just the absolute worst. Wish him the best and hopefully Brissett progresses or the Colts can find someone else they like. As a fan though I don't wish to see a 2-14 season to hopefully land the next great hope at QB for the Colts. Because it is never guaranteed.

CanuckColt 11-11-2019 04:29 PM

No thanks to Cam.
We don't need to take someone else's problem and give up something for him.

rcubed 11-15-2019 01:49 PM

Any interest in Kapernick who is holding a workout soon? Bring him in as a back up for the rest of the year, start learning the system and possible starter next year?

Chromeburn 11-15-2019 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 142626)
Any interest in Kapernick who is holding a workout soon? Bring him in as a back up for the rest of the year, start learning the system and possible starter next year?

I could care less about Kaep's personel stuff. If someone wants to protest I think they should be allowed to protest.

But he was never that great of a QB. His accuracy wasn't that great and he made some poor decisions. He would be an upgrade over Hoyer. I don't know if he would be an upgrade over Brisset though.

Colt Classic 11-16-2019 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 142626)
Any interest in Kapernick who is holding a workout soon? Bring him in as a back up for the rest of the year, start learning the system and possible starter next year?

I'd rather have Tebow.


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