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smitty46953 04-27-2018 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 64868)
Sure, why not, let's lose every game 56-49.

Go root for the Jags ... :cool:

Spike 04-27-2018 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 64852)
I just can't get with an OG at 6.

Look, Nelson may well be a very good player. May be an All-Pro. There's no sure thing at any position, OL included (cough Jonathan Cooper or Chance Warmack cough), so I won't say for sure. I won't be surprised if he's very good.

But let's say Nelson is amazing and the RG/RT situation is still Slauson/Haeg or something like that. Luck is still in mortal danger, and defenses will still shut down your run game because it will be so damn easy to load up on the left side. Does a great OG really have any impact, in that situation?

Let's say Reich's scheme emphasizes quick passing decisions. Isn't an OG's impact neutralized in that situation?

I guess I just look at a lottery OG as a total luxury pick in today's NFL. Is the difference between Nelson and Hernandez or Wynn, for instance, really that big? Is Nelson really going to make more plays for the Colts than a Roquan Smith or Tremaine Edmunds?

The only way you can sell me on an OG that high for the Colts is by telling me this is a cultural statement and trendsetter, and even that feels a bit elusive as a justification.

I still think Day 2 is set up to go very well, and again, none of this is saying Nelson will be a bad player. But I am just philosophically opposed to an OG at 6 the same way many of you are opposed to a RB at 6.

To me there were only 3 players that warranted the number 6 pick in the draft. Chubb, Nelson and Barkley. We got one of them. And Nelson is not your everyday fucking guard, he's a beast and brings an attitude that this fucking team really needs. I would normally agree that picking a guard this high is stupid, but Nelson is a different animal. Go watch tape of this guy and you may change your mind. Protecting Luck and creating running lanes is something that the Colts have needed for a long damn time. Every analyst gave the Colts an A grade for this selection and I agree with them.

omahacolt 04-27-2018 07:11 AM

I am with gbb on this. Probably a good pick in terms of Nelson being good, but no way he is a difference maker for the team.

dwilli57 04-27-2018 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 64884)
To me there were only 3 players that warranted the number 6 pick in the draft. Chubb, Nelson and Barkley. We got one of them. And Nelson is not your everyday fucking guard, he's a beast and brings an attitude that this fucking team really needs. I would normally agree that picking a guard this high is stupid, but Nelson is a different animal. Go watch tape of this guy and you may change your mind. Protecting Luck and creating running lanes is something that the Colts have needed for a long damn time. Every analyst gave the Colts an A grade for this selection and I agree with them.

every analyst except this guy. https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/04/26/nf...rades-analysis

I don't necessarily agree though. I think Ballard will get to the other side tonight.

Luck4Reich 04-27-2018 07:52 AM

What time does the draft start back up today?

ukcolt 04-27-2018 08:12 AM

I would be more than happy if we were able to get Will Hernandez with our next pick, our offensive line would be real nasty, which is exactly what you want. We do then need to spend almost all of our remaining day 2 picks on defensive talent though. With a major wish being that tackle, Orlando Brown falls to our pick in the 4th round.

An offensive line in camp consisting of Castonzo, Nelson, Kelly, Hernandez, Haeg, Slauson, Mewhort, Good, Brown, Clark and Bond in my eyes would be an enormous upgrade. Even with an injury or two (which is bound to happen) so long as it wasn't to Castonzo, i would be happy with the backups that could come in.

smitty46953 04-27-2018 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by NoLuck4Chuck (Post 64897)
What time does the draft start back up today?

7 pm EST :cool:

Maniac 04-27-2018 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 64890)
I am with gbb on this. Probably a good pick in terms of Nelson being good, but no way he is a difference maker for the team.

If he helps keep Luck off the ground and off the IR, then that's a huge difference than from the way it has been.

Maniac 04-27-2018 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 64862)
It doesn't make sense to spend the 6th pick on a guard and leave 2/5 of your line totally inept.

Who says Ballard is done addressing the o-line? He could draft another o-lineman still, bring in some UDFA's, or pick up someone in the post draft cuts.

VeveJones007 04-27-2018 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 64863)
Not-so-bold prediction: Both Roquan Smith and Tremaine Edmunds will make more All-Pro teams than Quenton Nelson.

Nope. Competition is much tougher at LB.

And I say that as someone who would have preferred one of those LBs.


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