Think of what Watson would have done to this defense. :shudder:

You still think that happened?

How do people buy into the pagano bs he constantly leaked to the media?

Both.

If it didn't then Pagano is a horrible judge of talent/performance. Obviously none of us are the proverbial fly on the wall when they discussed roster decisions but I have not seen or heard anything from Pagano that tells me he had the spine to say no to Grigson if told to do something he disagreed with.

Do you think pagano is a good judge of talent/performance?

Look at just this year with tolzein and green "winning" their competition. Grigson didn't make that happen. He had no idea who to play on the oline and never has. Aiken always starts

I can't believe that people still believe the leaks pagano put out against grigson.

I’d like to know the genius that thought I hat Freeny was done, he’s played 2 games with the Seahawks and has two and a half sacks!!

Not insinuating he is at all and also not getting into that pissing contest over Grigson and Pagano and who is worse. Neither one deserved to be there as long as they were but it's always interesting what 3 consecutive playoff appearances does to blind your owner.

My initial comment was half in jest due to how frequently Aiken is getting to play and was an acquisition brought on board by a GM. Somewhat similar to ones Grigson brought on board.

Grigson sucked and Pagano does as well.

I don't want to discuss it either. But you brought that bullshit falsehood up. Pagano plays guys. He always has.

Like I said in 2012, if your defense doesn't fit elite pass rushers like freeney, you don't have a defense

Build your Offense and Defense to the players you have, that has been a large part of Belichick's success.