Originally Posted by apballin (Post 321893)

Best option available I guess

He’ll probably beat out Richardson

Originally Posted by Kray007 (Post 321866)

Personally, I think that there’s a lot to like about the signing.

His biggest problem in New York was that he had two General Managers who seem/seemed totally indifferent to the need to build a solid Offensive Line. All too often, his pocket simply collapsed, and two or three pass rushers would converge on him before he had a chance to set up.

Secondly, he had a corps of receivers that could only generously be described as nondescript, a group that was chronically prone to injury and resulted in a situation in which Jones was sometimes throwing to receivers on Sunday who had been brought in off the street on Tuesday.

Third, as Giants owner John Mara mused, the Giants never did a good job of supporting Jones. He saw 3 coaching changes, going from Shurmer, who was fired after Jones rookie season, to Joe Judge who lasted two years, to Brian Daboll, who would have been fired save for the fact that Mara is worried about instability.

What Jones brings to the table is a strong arm, good accuracy, and mobility. If anything happens to Richardson, Jones can step in and you don’t have to shuffle the playbook and change the scheme.

If there’s a danger, it lies in questions about what’s going on between the young man’s ears.

Has he been irretrievably traumatized by his experience with the Giants? Does he hear footsteps where none exist?

Have 5 years of incessant carping from his coaches about interceptions and ball security made him too gun shy and risk averse? Have they weaned him of the gunslinger mentality that was a strength early in his career?

Is he the perfect plan B? I don’t know. What I do know is that you couldn’t put all your eggs in Anthony Richardson’s basket. Even if he irons out his mechanics and becomes the next Josh Allen, legitimate questions linger about his durability. Jones is a Quarterback who is capable of Carrying his team into the playoffs. He did it with the Giants, and if you give him enough support, he can do it in Indy.

Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 321904)

No probably about it.

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 321917)

I don't doubt he will be the better QB in camp and pre-season, but barring a significant injury, I don't see him getting the job.

Can't have him as the actual QB if he beats AR- if so, we stay in QB purgatory as he is not the long term answer. So I see it as a true means to push in hopes it forces AR to be better, and if he doesn't, then we just go full re-set next year at QB, HC, GM.

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 321853)

The only good thing you can say about Jones is that he’s better than Minshew.

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 321924)

Really? Do you think that Steichen and Ballard, who's jobs are on the line, are just bringing Jones in to push Richardson?

I see no way that Irsay signs up for that strategy.

Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 321925)

Actually he's not. Jones is better runner, but Minshew is a better passer. Here's their career averages prorated to 17 games:

Jones: 64%, 3,541 yds, 17 TDs, 11 Ints, 6.5 Y/A, 529 ruyds, 4 TDs, 12 fmbls
Minshew: 63%, 3,443 yds, 20 TDs, 10 Ints, 6.9 Y/A, 196 ruyds, 1 TD, 10 fmbls

Also, I didn't say I would take Minshew over Jones straight up. That's at least debatable. I said that I would take Minshew +~$10M in cap space over Jones, which IMO isn't.



If Jones beats out AR then it won't take long for Jones to be benched for AR. Afterall Jones was benched for Tommy DeVito and Drew Lock.



It's not just Jones' shitty stats. It's that combined w/ guys like DeVito and Lock having outperformed him w/ the same talent around them.



Even if you support this move this still has to be a big concern. I didn't watch NYG play much this past season, but when I saw them play Jones was completely terrified of throwing the ball downfield. It was either a SNF or MNF game that really sticks out where the broadcast kept showing how his receivers were consistently open downfield and he had plenty of time to throw, but he would just dump the ball off in the flat on essentially every pass play.

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 321938)

Jones has similar passing stats and is a much better runner so yeah, he’s better than Minshew. Also has a much better arm.

I don’t really care about the cap space. It’s not like we’d use it to sign some all world player.