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nate505 09-14-2017 06:31 PM

Is tanking even a great strategy in the NFL? Maybe for Luck it was, but way more often than not pro bowlers/impact players are found all over the first round.

omahacolt 09-14-2017 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 26921)
Is tanking even a great strategy in the NFL? Maybe for Luck it was, but way more often than not pro bowlers/impact players are found all over the first round.

nobody tanks.

the colts didn't for luck and they won't this year. tanking isn't a thing.

1965southpaw 09-14-2017 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 26922)
nobody tanks.

the colts didn't for luck and they won't this year. tanking isn't a thing.

If we did I propose we call it suck for chuck.

Dewey 5 09-14-2017 07:57 PM

Anyone that keeps Pagano for 6 years is a fucking idiot. So throw the smart thing out the window.

bertjones 09-14-2017 08:21 PM

What it is is simply the chickens coming home to roost for having
an unstable owner, having made poor drafting and FA decisions and
for having an inadequate coach. Maybe it's a perfect storm. Contrived
it is not.

ChoppedWood 09-15-2017 07:14 AM

IF, IF, IF they are going this route and this is orchestrated- which some have sort of drawn the comparison to the Spurs with Robinson and Duncan- which has worked out "decently" I suppose, then hey I am all for it- we are THAT bad, we have zero chance at competing for anything other than the difference between a top 3 pick without him and a top 12 with him....

So IF this is happening and this is what Jim is preaching with the patience speak and why Ballard keeps pushing out the expectation for return of Luck...IF this is the case...

Why is Green in and where is Wilson and Hooker? IF this is the plan, then you need these guys getting reps right now- growing through the losses. That's not happening so far, instead we continue to see trash put on the field in position after position.

So, I don't see it being the case, I see it more of a combination of truly poor decisions in personnel over the course of several years- including this one, plus a coach who I truly don't think if he had AP in his prime lined up against Mike Hart he would be able to determine who was the better player...

Indiana V2 09-15-2017 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 27019)
IF, IF, IF they are going this route and this is orchestrated- which some have sort of drawn the comparison to the Spurs with Robinson and Duncan- which has worked out "decently" I suppose, then hey I am all for it- we are THAT bad, we have zero chance at competing for anything other than the difference between a top 3 pick without him and a top 12 with him....

So IF this is happening and this is what Jim is preaching with the patience speak and why Ballard keeps pushing out the expectation for return of Luck...IF this is the case...

Why is Green in and where is Wilson and Hooker? IF this is the plan, then you need these guys getting reps right now- growing through the losses. That's not happening so far, instead we continue to see trash put on the field in position after position.

So, I don't see it being the case, I see it more of a combination of truly poor decisions in personnel over the course of several years- including this one, plus a coach who I truly don't think if he had AP in his prime lined up against Mike Hart he would be able to determine who was the better player...

And why waste another year of Luck? Especially if he's healthy. That's a lot of money standing on the sidelines.

YDFL Commish 09-15-2017 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 27019)

Why is Green in and where is Wilson and Hooker? IF this is the plan, then you need these guys getting reps right now- growing through the losses. That's not happening so far, instead we continue to see trash put on the field in position after position.

It's not a plan. I repeat it's not a plan. It's Pagano being a poor talent evaluator and idiot, just like he's always been.

DrSpaceman 09-15-2017 10:12 AM

You don't need to tank in the NFL to become a great team.

Its not like the NBA where you have no chance if you are not hitting on your top picks and FAs.

If it did work, the Browns should have won 10 SBs by now

kitekrazy 09-16-2017 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 26921)
Is tanking even a great strategy in the NFL? Maybe for Luck it was, but way more often than not pro bowlers/impact players are found all over the first round.

So are busts. We traded for one and drafted another one.

I do wonder if would have been an improvement for drafting if the Colts went 6-10 instead of 8-8. 8-8 seemed like an attempt to save one's job.


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