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Dam8610 03-04-2023 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 260567)
How about the ability to beat Michigan? :D

Definitely existed if his defense didn't fall apart and allow 3 rushing TDs in the 4th quarter. You sound like a Cheats fan in the early 2000s. "Manning can't beat Brady, so Brady is better." No, you moron, football is a team sport. By the way, please tell me when the Colts have Michigan on their schedule?

JAFF 03-04-2023 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 260569)
Definitely existed if his defense didn't fall apart and allow 3 rushing TDs in the 4th quarter. You sound like a Cheats fan in the early 2000s. "Manning can't beat Brady, so Brady is better." No, you moron, football is a team sport. By the way, please tell me when the Colts have Michigan on their schedule?

No, The two teams I love to take a loss is the Pats and Ohio state.

Lov2fish 03-04-2023 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 260566)
Accuracy second only to Joe Burrow in the last half decade. Where does that stat about "under pressure" come from? How do they define pressure?

Throwing before an immanent sack, pocket collapsing and getting the pass of, throwing in the face of a free rusher. Literally anything that forces him to speed up his internal clock he doesn't fair well. I know there are anomalies, I.E. Brett Favre. Very low completion rate coming out of college, under normal game circumstances and under pressure he was horrible. Turned out pretty good for him. He is rare though. Another comparison of great college QB's under pressure. Peyton Manning and Ryan Leaf. Peyton had a 60% completion rate under pressure, Leaf had a high 40% completion rate. How did that turn out?

NFL never has completely clean pockets. If Young was a little bigger all these debates would be moot. He is by far the best QB in the draft this year, but realistically he would get broken in record time behind this line, even if they improve 25% this year. None of this changes the fact that not a single QB this year is worth trading any future draft capital to assure you get any of them. Stop getting fixated on a single player and broaden your horizon on other aspects of the team that have glaring holes. This team is further away than the homers are willing to admit.

Whichever QB they draft I am going to root like crazy for them and hope anything I have said makes me look silly. I want them to be successful. This is my team no matter what.

JAFF 03-04-2023 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 260569)
By the way, please tell me when the Colts have Michigan on their schedule?

Good thing they didnt play Michigan last year.

OSU and the cheatriots can suck a cock, and I will always root for the team that is playing against them.

Dam8610 03-04-2023 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 260571)
Throwing before an immanent sack, pocket collapsing and getting the pass of, throwing in the face of a free rusher. Literally anything that forces him to speed up his internal clock he doesn't fair well. I know there are anomalies, I.E. Brett Favre. Very low completion rate coming out of college, under normal game circumstances and under pressure he was horrible. Turned out pretty good for him. He is rare though. Another comparison of great college QB's under pressure. Peyton Manning and Ryan Leaf. Peyton had a 60% completion rate under pressure, Leaf had a high 40% completion rate. How did that turn out?

NFL never has completely clean pockets. If Young was a little bigger all these debates would be moot. He is by far the best QB in the draft this year, but realistically he would get broken in record time behind this line, even if they improve 25% this year. None of this changes the fact that not a single QB this year is worth trading any future draft capital to assure you get any of them. Stop getting fixated on a single player and broaden your horizon on other aspects of the team that have glaring holes. This team is further away than the homers are willing to admit.

Whichever QB they draft I am going to root like crazy for them and hope anything I have said makes me look silly. I want them to be successful. This is my team no matter what.

Does that stat count when the QB rolls away from pressure and creates? Or once he rolls away is he not considered "under pressure" anymore? Because the way I saw Stroud deal with quick pressure the entire year was to roll out of it and throw darts down the sidelines. I have a feeling that that doesn't count as "under pressure" and skews the stat unfavorably for Stroud. After all, why would I care that my QB doesn't preform well when pressured in the pocket if he regularly escapes pocket pressure and creates big plays?


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