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albany ed 08-25-2025 07:06 AM

I don't know, I can't see trading him for some remote future low round draft choice. Suppose in game 1, DJ gets a serious injury and is out for the season. Leonard becomes your QB and he's just not capable at this time. Not that AR is ready but maybe, just maybe he answers the call.

apballin 08-26-2025 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 326717)
I have no idea, never cared enough to watch DeVito play. I’ve seen Jones though and haven’t been impressed. And I know statistically you can’t really distinguish between the two. To me that says much more about Jones after 6 years than it does DeVito. Switch their pedigrees and Jones is the scrub instead of the supposed savior.

Devito was cut as expected… let’s see if he gets picked up anywhere… I’m willing to wager his 2 minutes of fame are up

rm1369 08-26-2025 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 326812)
Devito was cut as expected… let’s see if he gets picked up anywhere… I’m willing to wager his 2 minutes of fame are up

I don’t think you are getting the point. Devito is a nobody. That’s our whole point. Your defense of Jones performance is that the Giants suck, yet the nobody Devito has nearly identical success as Jones with the same teammates. Jones was benched by his team for Devito. NOT because Devito is good, but because Jones sucked. I don’t think Devito is good. I don’t think Jones is good. I’m not sure how Devito sucking is supposed to make Jones look good. Regardless we are real close to finding out on Jones. AR was 8-7 as a starter. Jones has, by everyone’s estimation, a better team around him than AR had so to me anything less than 10 wins for this team under Jones is a CLEAR failure. No need to bask in the demise of Tommy Devito, Jones is about to sink or swim on his own. We’ll see clearly if Jones is as great as you believe.

apballin 08-26-2025 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 326819)
I don’t think you are getting the point. Devito is a nobody. That’s our whole point. Your defense of Jones performance is that the Giants suck, yet the nobody Devito has nearly identical success as Jones with the same teammates. Jones was benched by his team for Devito. NOT because Devito is good, but because Jones sucked. I don’t think Devito is good. I don’t think Jones is good. I’m not sure how Devito sucking is supposed to make Jones look good. Regardless we are real close to finding out on Jones. AR was 8-7 as a starter. Jones has, by everyone’s estimation, a better team around him than AR had so to me anything less than 10 wins for this team under Jones is a CLEAR failure. No need to bask in the demise of Tommy Devito, Jones is about to sink or swim on his own. We’ll see clearly if Jones is as great as you believe.

No you were trying to make the case Jones was benched for a better option, when he was clearly benched due to circumstances.

Jones is still a decent QB, we shall see

IndyNorm 08-26-2025 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 326819)
I don’t think you are getting the point. Devito is a nobody. That’s our whole point. Your defense of Jones performance is that the Giants suck, yet the nobody Devito has nearly identical success as Jones with the same teammates. Jones was benched by his team for Devito. NOT because Devito is good, but because Jones sucked. I don’t think Devito is good. I don’t think Jones is good. I’m not sure how Devito sucking is supposed to make Jones look good. Regardless we are real close to finding out on Jones. AR was 8-7 as a starter. Jones has, by everyone’s estimation, a better team around him than AR had so to me anything less than 10 wins for this team under Jones is a CLEAR failure. No need to bask in the demise of Tommy Devito, Jones is about to sink or swim on his own. We’ll see clearly if Jones is as great as you believe.

Exaclty (although Devito actually played better than Jones in '23). Devito getting cut just proves even further how god awful Jones was in NY. Obviously hope he turns it around, but I certainly won't be surprised if he doesn't.

rm1369 08-26-2025 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 326820)
No you were trying to make the case Jones was benched for a better option, when he was clearly benched due to circumstances.

Jones is still a decent QB, we shall see

Circumstances? Yeah the same circumstances that got AR benched. He didn’t perform at an acceptable level. He sucked. The only real difference is AR was drafted as a project and has 15 total starts. Jones has had 69 starts. Based on his performance I’d say he’s in line with the other non Philip Rivers QBs Ballard has brought in. I expect similiar results although he clearly has a better team than Ballard gave any of his previous QBs

apballin 08-26-2025 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 326825)
Circumstances? Yeah the same circumstances that got AR benched. He didn’t perform at an acceptable level. He sucked. The only real difference is AR was drafted as a project and has 15 total starts. Jones has had 69 starts. Based on his performance I’d say he’s in line with the other non Philip Rivers QBs Ballard has brought in. I expect similiar results although he clearly has a better team than Ballard gave any of his previous QBs

Yes given a huge contract and expected to carry a shitty team to victories.
AR got benched because he wasn’t putting the extra work in it takes to be a high level QB in the NFL. Every coach and every former teammate Jones has ever had says nobody will outwork him

Colts And Orioles 09-21-2025 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 326513)
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If that's the case, we can hope that he takes a page out of Jim Plunkett's career resurgence when he was playing for the Raiders in his mid-to-late 30's ....... play within himself, don't throw very many deep bombs, and trust his receivers with soft-and-accurate throws.

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So far, Jones looks even better than Plunkett did with the Raiders in the early 1980's.

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Spike 09-21-2025 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 328079)
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So far, Jones looks even better than Plunkett did with the Raiders in the early 1980's.

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Yep, I was one who had my doubts about him. Through 3 games, DJ has looked damn good!

ChoppedWood 09-21-2025 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 328097)
Yep, I was one who had my doubts about him. Through 3 games, DJ has looked damn good!

Crowe, Foot, Ass- just shove it all in my mouth at this point, I will happily eat all that shit right now!


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