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CletusPyle 08-09-2023 12:17 PM

I tried to give JT the benefit of the doubt, I won't make that mistake again! Get him out, take a 3rd if you have to, but end it and move on!

ChaosTheory 08-09-2023 12:38 PM

Part of why I feel JT has to play for us is directly related to us looking at Kareem Hunt...

If they put together a committee of whoever between Moss, Jackson, Drake, a rookie, potentially Hunt... and they couple that with Richardson (who I think will end up starting) to produce a solid running game...

Then JT will have successfully proven the point against himself and his future negotiations. I don't think much of his representation, but JT himself is not dumb. Which makes me think there actually is something up with the ankle.

Racehorse 08-09-2023 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 270589)
Part of why I feel JT has to play for us is directly related to us looking at Kareem Hunt...

If they put together a committee of whoever between Moss, Jackson, Drake, a rookie, potentially Hunt... and they couple that with Richardson (who I think will end up starting) to produce a solid running game...

Then JT will have successfully proven the point against himself and his future negotiations. I don't think much of his representation, but JT himself is not dumb. Which makes me think there actually is something up with the ankle.

Can you elaborate?

ChaosTheory 08-09-2023 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 270627)
Can you elaborate?

Which part?

IndyNorm 08-09-2023 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 270589)
Part of why I feel JT has to play for us is directly related to us looking at Kareem Hunt...

If they put together a committee of whoever between Moss, Jackson, Drake, a rookie, potentially Hunt... and they couple that with Richardson (who I think will end up starting) to produce a solid running game...

Then JT will have successfully proven the point against himself and his future negotiations. I don't think much of his representation, but JT himself is not dumb. Which makes me think there actually is something up with the ankle.

Maybe his agent got JT smoking crack in the offseason b/c acting like a total douche and demanding a big contract extension while you're injured is a pretty stupid way to go about it.

ChaosTheory 08-09-2023 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 270641)
Maybe his agent got JT smoking crack in the offseason b/c acting like a total douche and demanding a big contract extension while you're injured is a pretty stupid way to go about it.

Good point, neither looks smart. I don't know, though. Something about this faking the injury idea seems funky and is even more harmful to his cause in my eyes.

Racehorse 08-10-2023 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 270632)
Which part?

JT proving the point against him.

ChaosTheory 08-10-2023 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 270656)
JT proving the point against him.

Oh, I was just saying argument from JT's perspective is that he can't be reproduced. And if he allows the Colts (by faking injury, aka sitting-in) to put together a RB committee that might even include an available, productive vet (like Hunt), it's a gamble because...

Seems to me there's a good chance that that RB room + Richardson could produce a running game that, while not as good as it would be with healthy JT, could still be plenty capable and effective at a fraction of the cost. You can win with it.

Which would prove the point against JT about what's cost-effective in the RB market. Whereas if he plays hard and looks closer to '21 again, he's in good shape money-wise.

Now, if he's actually injured, nothing he can do. But, if he's faking it as some people speculate, he'd be doing it to himself... which just seems off to me. Of course nothing will surprise me at this point, it's just my intuition which could be wrong.

Racehorse 08-10-2023 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 270666)
Oh, I was just saying argument from JT's perspective is that he can't be reproduced. And if he allows the Colts (by faking injury, aka sitting-in) to put together a RB committee that might even include an available, productive vet (like Hunt), it's a gamble because...

Seems to me there's a good chance that that RB room + Richardson could produce a running game that, while not as good as it would be with healthy JT, could still be plenty capable and effective at a fraction of the cost. You can win with it.

Which would prove the point against JT about what's cost-effective in the RB market. Whereas if he plays hard and looks closer to '21 again, he's in good shape money-wise.

Now, if he's actually injured, nothing he can do. But, if he's faking it as some people speculate, he'd be doing it to himself... which just seems off to me. Of course nothing will surprise me at this point, it's just my intuition which could be wrong.

Makes sense now. I thought you were saying JT was trying to make that point, but I see now that you weren't.

HoosierinFL 08-11-2023 03:07 PM

Yea it's such a bad gamble. If the Colts offensive line improves, and they start running the ball effectively without JT, then all his leverage evaporates. The only way for him to get paid is to play and play well.


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