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Puck 02-23-2022 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 224311)
Kray007 makes to much sense. This year is a crapshoot no matter how you slice it

Yes he is making a lot of sense. But it doesn't matter. It appears that Irsay does not want him so he is gone.

There is something that happened besides his on the field stuff which in itself was not a reason to move on. He was top 10 in QBR rating and improved in every area that he was terrible in the yr before in Philly. It is attitude or game prep or something. And no it's not the vax otherwise there would be a bunch more on the hot seat.

Oldcolt 02-23-2022 10:37 AM

I tend to agree with you Puck. It doesn’t make me feel good. Irsay making this decision is fucked. His decision’s have sucked in the past and will suck now. Hope he’s like a blind squirrel and finds the right answer by pure luck.

Chromeburn 02-23-2022 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 224354)
Yes he is making a lot of sense. But it doesn't matter. It appears that Irsay does not want him so he is gone.

There is something that happened besides his on the field stuff which in itself was not a reason to move on. He was top 10 in QBR rating and improved in every area that he was terrible in the yr before in Philly. It is attitude or game prep or something. And no it's not the vax otherwise there would be a bunch more on the hot seat.

There might be an off field thing. Didn’t they take a plane flight somewhere recently. On field I think it’s the stubbornness. He won’t use the weapons he has. Not throwing outlet passes and not using JT and Hines in the passing game out of the backfield. Use what the team has. Adapt.but he is reportedly stubborn. Actually said mid season he does like the outlet pass bc he doesn’t think it’s aggressive.

Then the my e Janice issue that he has never fixed. Gotta believe Peyton was in Irsay’s ear about Wentz’s play.

Brylok 02-23-2022 01:07 PM

Blaine Gabbert is going to replace Brady in Tampa Bay. Hopefully the Colts are above that level of a choice. Yikes.

Puck 02-23-2022 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 224363)
There might be an off field thing. Didn’t they take a plane flight somewhere recently. On field I think it’s the stubbornness. He won’t use the weapons he has. Not throwing outlet passes and not using JT and Hines in the passing game out of the backfield. Use what the team has. Adapt.but he is reportedly stubborn. Actually said mid season he does like the outlet pass bc he doesn’t think it’s aggressive.

Then the my e Janice issue that he has never fixed. Gotta believe Peyton was in Irsay’s ear about Wentz’s play.

Yes Feb 10th the plane meeting. And a couple days after that the leak from Mort.

I think they are all 3 out on Wentz. Even Frank. It's a shame too because the kid has talent.

I just think that Irsay wasn't hearing the commitment that he wanted to hear from him.

Who knows, but the bad thing about the leak which is speculated to have come from Irsay hurts the trade value

All JMO

Chromeburn 02-23-2022 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 224383)
Yes Feb 10th the plane meeting. And a couple days after that the leak from Mort.

I think they are all 3 out on Wentz. Even Frank. It's a shame too because the kid has talent.

I just think that Irsay wasn't hearing the commitment that he wanted to hear from him.

Who knows, but the bad thing about the leak which is speculated to have come from Irsay hurts the trade value

All JMO


He will keep getting chances because of his talent. But he doesn’t have the temperament. High ceiling really low floor. Honestly after some of the idiocy he pulled this season I wished we had Foles to replace him with.

Chromeburn 02-23-2022 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 224368)
Blaine Gabbert is going to replace Brady in Tampa Bay. Hopefully the Colts are above that level of a choice. Yikes.

Means Tampa is gonna hope for a QB next years draft.

Hoopsdoc 02-23-2022 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 224383)
Yes Feb 10th the plane meeting. And a couple days after that the leak from Mort.

I think they are all 3 out on Wentz. Even Frank. It's a shame too because the kid has talent.

I just think that Irsay wasn't hearing the commitment that he wanted to hear from him.

Who knows, but the bad thing about the leak which is speculated to have come from Irsay hurts the trade value

All JMO

I get the feeling that Reich is out on Wentz because he was TOLD he was out on Wentz.

IndyNorm 02-23-2022 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 224354)
Yes he is making a lot of sense. But it doesn't matter. It appears that Irsay does not want him so he is gone.

There is something that happened besides his on the field stuff which in itself was not a reason to move on. He was top 10 in QBR rating and improved in every area that he was terrible in the yr before in Philly. It is attitude or game prep or something. And no it's not the vax otherwise there would be a bunch more on the hot seat.

Not sure what goes into QBR, but I wouldn't trust a system that rates Wentz as having a better year than Joe Burrow. Not even close as to who had the better year, and it definitely wasn't Wentz. Admittingly Wentz had a decent first half of the year, but really regressed and had a really bad 2nd half as I chronicled here:

http://www.coltfreaks.com/forum/show...117823&page=13

I do agree with you on that the leak sucks b/c it certainly does hurt what little trade value Wentz had.

IndyNorm 02-23-2022 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 224363)
There might be an off field thing. Didn’t they take a plane flight somewhere recently. On field I think it’s the stubbornness. He won’t use the weapons he has. Not throwing outlet passes and not using JT and Hines in the passing game out of the backfield. Use what the team has. Adapt.but he is reportedly stubborn. Actually said mid season he does like the outlet pass bc he doesn’t think it’s aggressive.

Then the my e Janice issue that he has never fixed. Gotta believe Peyton was in Irsay’s ear about Wentz’s play.

That's a great point. Pretty much made me sick to my stomach watching the Kurt Warner analysis where time after time Wentz's dumbass chose to throw into double and triple coverage instead of to a wide open JT/Hines with all kinds of running room in front of them.


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