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No, it wasn't. Not at that place in the field. o |
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Heartbreaking. Another one. But it was great to see Luck step up in the
second half and be the QB we remembered him to be. If he can stay there there will be no dull moments this season. I agree with GB that Hines needs to see the field as much as possible. The 4th down decision I am coming around to. |
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If you want to defend the decision to go for it on 4th down OK, but your reasoning in regard to the players' attitudes toward ties is absurd. This is not sandlot football for bragging rights, and any player that isn't borderline retarded knows that a tie is better than a loss in the standings. If they are disappointed about busting their asses for 60-plus minutes for a tie, they are even more disappointed about busting their asses for 60-plus minutes for a loss. The players may publicly support Reich's decision even if some of them didn't agree with it, which I think is the right thing to do (for the sake of team unity) ........ but any player who truly believes and feels that a tie is worse than a loss needs to have his head examined. o |
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No, he doesn't. He said that agreed with the decision (that he loved it), which I stated you can make that argument (not a very good one, but you could make one), and I also stated that I think that they should support the coach's decision publicly. He said that "we play to win, we don't want to play for ties," not that the loss was less disappointing than a tie. That's the public front, which is the right thing to do. He did not say or insinuate that he would have been more disappointed with a tie than with a loss. Anybody who feels that being 1-3 is better than being 1-2-1 needs a remedial course in math. I'm sure that Andrew Luck and every other Colts player was rooting for the Texans kicker to miss the field goal attempt on the last play of overtime........which would have resulted in a tie. o |
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Yes, a tie is better than a loss, but a win is better than a tie. Speaking only from my POV, I'd rather fight for the win than settle for the tie. |
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Going for it wasn't dumb. Going for it when even if you make it you're still not going to win the game... that was dumb! |
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Another 10-15 seconds would have been better, but then again Reich would be giving this extra time to the Texans if the effort failed. Lost in all of this, by the way, is Texas's bad decision not to use a timeout after the 3rd down play. |
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THEY DID fight for the win. After the Texans tied the game with a field goal, the Colts went to the air, and got a first down. At that point, the Texans only had one timeout left with 1:24 left to play. If the Colts were playing for the tie, they would have gone with 3 extremely conservative run plays to run all of the time off of the clock. They didn't do that. They continued to aggressively throw the ball downfield, attempting to get themselves into field goal range. Once it was 4th down with only 27 seconds to play from that part of the field (their own 43 yard-line), punting would not have been playing for the tie ...... it would be accepting the reality that after having played for the win and not getting it, salvaging the tie was the most prudent and realistic option at that point. o |
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I agree ...... those formulas are debatable, and I do think that the Colts had better than a 10% chance to win by going for it on 4th down at that point. However, I do think that their chances were still well under 50% at that point (perhaps somewhere between 20% and 25%), which is why I would have chosen to punt the ball. If there were 10 second less left on the clock (17 instead of 27), I would have gone for it ........ the Texans were out of timeouts, and even if the Colts had failed to get the 1st down, there would have been only 11 or 12 seconds left on the clock, which is not enough time to complete a pass over the middle and spike the ball like they did. They would have needed to either complete a pass and gotten out of bounds to stop the clock (much harder to do when the opposition knows that you have to do that) or tried for 2 Hail Marys to the endzone (another low percentage play.) o |
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Peyton would have played aggressively for the win prior to that 4th down play, just like Luck and the Colts did. He would not necessarily have demanded to go for it on 4th down as he did in the 2005 season playoff game against the Steelers. In that situation, the Colts were losing by a score of 21-3 with only seconds left to play in the 3rd quarter, and it was a playoff game. Calling the punt team off of the field in that situation is much different than punting the ball on 4th down from your own 43 yard-line with 27 seconds left to play in overtime in an early regular season game with the team having a record of 1-2 in their first 3 games. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHL647Mclzk o |
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