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I have already pushed my JT jersey to the back of my closet and will box it up for Goodwill once the Colts trade him away. I still have my Big Q jersey to wear.

Next man up.

That said, I understand his desire to be paid more; it is the same desire everyone has. But I also understand that you honor the committments you have already made (in this case to the CBA).

I hope we can get a mid-round 2nd for him and let someone else pay him what he wants. While his persumed production this year would have helped AR get aclimated to the NFL, it only works if he wants to be here. And he does not.

Honestly, I already felt we were about a 4-5 win team in 2023 and with the loss of JT, our target range will probably drop to around 2-4 wins. When your best offensive weapon is a rookie QB....

Marvin Harrison Jr? Paging Marvin Harrision Jr for the Colts....

Draft the best RB available in 2024 with one of our 2nd round picks...
Draft interior O-Line with the other 2nd round pick...
Draft defense with the whole rest of the draft...

Let's start building for 2024 and beyond.

2023 is now just about getting AR comfortable with the offense, developing his NFL timing and hoping that our young wide receiver and tight ends develop (and CBs for that matter).

I like your attitude Ironshaft (not worried about losing JT-I couldn't agree more on that) but don't agree with you about not wanting him here because he doesn't want to be here. First I don't believe you can get a 2nd for the guy. I doubt anyone is going to give up a 2nd and pay him what he wants. He may not be happy but if he sulks it will cost him millions of dollars long term. I understand that right now things are hot but time tends to cool down tempers, as does the fact of losing millions of dollars if you don't. Life is tough for these prima donas.

AS far as him not wanting to be here I just do not buy that or even care. There have been tons of very tough negotiations in the NFL over the years. Lamar is just the latest example. Both sides may need to give a little but it is doable. Just going to take time.

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 270258)

Man there is something to be said for this- and also hearing the rumors of JT being "unhappy" about his injury...

WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH THIS FRANCHISE?

The other day JMV as asking someone- think it might have been Bowen, if this is just a toxic workplace. Whoever it was responded back with the "that's a bit too strong of a word but there's definitely something not quite right on 56th Street".

Well, and yes I am a hater, without question I am, but is the problem fucking Ballard? Timeline matches up.

Peyton - Wayne era, even despite the James situation, and even in the face of the overwhelming difficulty of the Peyton neck situation- the TEAM was harmonious; seemed like everyone was on the same page. Hell even in the Grigson era it didn't seem like there was this constant level of fucking noise around the team, just bad personnel and coaching decisions.

It's always made me wonder- why did Philip just up and quit football? Had a really good season, had a team that looked like it could have made a run that next year, would have been paid a tidy sum, nope, just gonna quit. Hines, Gilmore and it appears Okereke to a lesser extent all made it apparent they wanted to leave this team. Let's not forget, Ballard is also responsible for saying they looked at like 30 minutes of film on Ryan and determined he still had it (wtf- why is he still here????).

Is it just his fixation on "his boys" that is causing a bunch of this? And is Jim's over-reaching last year and now clearly way too fucking far into this shit, a reflection on Ballard just being a stooge and Irsay having to act because Ballard is a GM in name only?

Whatever is the fuel behind this, and I am not in the camp that it is Jim just given some of the past work- with a guy like Edge asking him to do is invocation and rolling with him to the podium- man I just have a hard time believing this is Jim's doings. Whatever it is, this shit needs to be rooted out and gotten rid of. This franchise is better than this petty shit that's been going around here the last several years.

I don’t trust the radio guys. Just did a rant on them. Grigson was super toxic. Lots of former players have talked about it. I only read good things about Ballard from former players. Mac says great things about him all the time.I trust him over any of the radio guys.

I listened to that radio broadcast. Seems like the same stretch that Doyle was trying to make. Gilmore wasn’t some longtime Colt, he’s a journeyman, him moving on is not a big deal and that happens on other teams all the time. Hines wasn’t being used, that’s a Reich thing. So that leaves JT who wants a record setting contract. All last year these same radio guys were saying “don’t pay running backs. You don’t pay them in the NFL.” Bowen said it all last summer. Now he sits there the other day and says Taylor deserves a contract. Wtf! It seems more about doing what Ballard isn’t doing.

He then says Peyton had Marvin and he had Glenn so you can’t compare it to the Faulk situation. Huh? Richardson has Quinton Nelson one of the best interior players in the league and Raimann who is continuing to look good. Smith is a top ten RT. Then we got MPJ, Pierce, Downs and a loaded TE room with lots of potential. Faulk was clearly the best player on that team at the time though, as JT is now. It’s a very similar situation. I just don’t get wtf these radio guys are doing. When it seemed Ballard was going to sign JT to a new deal it was “you don’t pay RB’s in today’s league.” Now they have totally reversed coarse?!? And another great tidbit they talk about how the Colts need to be like the Jaguars signing a bunch of mid receivers to huge contracts. Surround your QB with as as many guys as possible, just totally ignoring the whole Urban Meyer debacle. What a clown show of analysis. Seems they just want to create bullshit and drama up.

Yep

Let it all play

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Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 270402)

If we do end up with a top pick. There are going to be a ton of QBs that will drive skill talent down the board. Also there are some really good players already projected at the top:

WR Marvin Harrison Jr (obviously)
CB Ga'Quincy 'Kool-Aid' Mckinistry Bama
TE Brock Bowers GA
DE Jared Verse FSU
WR Emeka Egbuka OSU
OT Olumuyiwa Fashnu PSU (would have been the top OT this year)
OT Joe Alt ND

So they should have a good selection of talent to choose from.

If one of these TE's doesn't figure it out, I've been watching the TE from UGA for a couple of years now...

That kid is legit.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Session (Post 270475)

If one of these TE's doesn't figure it out, I've been watching the TE from UGA for a couple of years now...

That kid is legit.

If we have the unfortunate opportunity to draft in the top 10, it damn well not be a TE.

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 270488)

If we have the unfortunate opportunity to draft in the top 10, it damn well not be a TE.

I get it.

He makes it look easy is all I’m saying.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Session (Post 270475)

If one of these TE's doesn't figure it out, I've been watching the TE from UGA for a couple of years now...

That kid is legit.

Sites are saying he is a better prospect than Kyle Pitts.

But we do have a lot of young players at TE that need to develop.

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 270488)

If we have the unfortunate opportunity to draft in the top 10, it damn well not be a TE.

Dallas Clark was a pretty good choice at # 1. John Mackey wasnt too bad.