He had already been there for a few years--they didn't sign him THAT YEAR, then ALSO draft Mahomes. His contract was coming to an end, of course a team should plan for the future at that point. If the Colts sign Rivers, then they could pass on this draft's QB prospects since none of the realistic options seem to be impressive or have any skill set that couldn't be found in next year's draft. Use this year's first rounder on edge rusher or receiver.

Race is supposed to comprehend what you are thinking?

If he can do that he is one bad ass mutha!

Didnt say they signed him that year lol.

So the comparison isn't similar. What the hell was your point then? Are you trying to say the Colts should take a stab at a QB just because it might be the next Mahomes? Good call.

Yep. Who knows what's going on? Never a dull moment nowdays... except for the actual, regular season. Boring football.

Rookie contracts are cheap but, yeah, there are a lot of holes to fill. You know who would have masked them somewhat but, he quit last year. We'll see

The Colts should take a stab at a QB in the draft because they are currently without a bonafide quality starter at that position. Unless you have a solid young QB already, you should draft one every year.

Am I talking to walls here? Is everyone just reading four or five words? Holy shit, IF THE COLTS SIGN RIVERS, THEY DON'T NEED TO DRAFT A QB IN THE FIRST ROUND.

IF THEY DON'T SIGN RIVERS, by all means, THEN DRAFT A QB. Try reading a full post before parroting your views.

His point made sense that the Colts need to do everything they can to find a QB they can win with just like KC did.

Not sure why you didnt get that.

This post HAS to be referring to JAFF at least a little.

I know exactly what he was thinking. He was thinking that he got called out for mis-interpreting the context of my post (when I even quoted another post to make it in context) and then got pissed in response, so he lashed out which a moronic comment about being psychic. Psycho may be more like it.

Not sure why you are so angry lol

It doesnt have to be one or the other.... If Ballard sees it as an option so be it... he probably doesnt.. this is all speculation and it's fun for us to talk about.

Most of us just want to win and see this team back in the SB. It's been mentioned by several sources that the Colts could add Rivers and draft a QB that could sit behind him until ready. They also mentioned the comparison to the Chiefs and Mahomes.

No big deal.

Yeah. You are probably correct lol.

If the Colts sign Rivers, they'll still need a bona fide QB starter after 2 years AT THE MOST, possibly sooner. If the right QB is there at 13, (and by right, I mean a QB that both Ballard and Reich are sold on) you draft him. If not, you draft one in a later round, but you need a starter to be ready within 2 years. Rivers is not a sure thing. He's either nearly done, or already done. That's not for us to know, but it is the job of Ballard and Reich.

My thoughts on the past couple of day's topics:

1. Drat about Chris Jones getting franchised. He was my #1 free agent target now that AC is coming back. I don't know if there is anyone else that I would back the money truck up for, honestly, other than Dak Prescott.

2. I don't want to spend money on any of the FA QBs that will be available. Dak is the only one that I would pony up the money for and he will not make it to free agency.

3. That said, if Derek Carr would only cost us our lower 2nd round pick, I would trade for him. He is young enough to be our QB at a high level for a decade, is an accomplished NFL QB with good instincts, touch and leadership and I think he would fit a Reich offensive system like a glove. Gruden is an idiot if they spend capital to go chase a different QB rather than build around Carr. And he is less than a $20m cap hit for each of the next 3 seasons.

4. Of Herbert, Love, Eason and Fromm, I think I like Eason the best but I don't like using the #13 pick on him. I think at #13, we can get a high potential WR1, LOT1, disruptive 3-tech or talented DE and I don't know that I love any of the QBs as much as I like a lot of the guys who could fall to us. I would MUCH better roll with JB another year, draft a developmental kid in the 2nd or 3rd round and see where we are at in a year than draft one of the QBs with the #13.

5. I am concerned about O-Line depth more than the depth of any other position group right now. I think Haeg will get low end starter money in free agency, Clark is not better than average and we then have no one behind our fav five. I would want an OT draft pick early (1st or 2nd round) and a draft pick later for interior line depth.

6. Also worried about TE depth. Jack as the starter and Mo-Allie Cox as a guy is fine but there is no one behind them. Need a body or two there to round out that critically important position in Reich's offense.

7. WR is tricky for me. On paper, I like Hilton, Pascal and Campbell as our starting three. However, we have limited depth behind them (Fountain and Johnson) and they can be improved on. Adding draftees in this "deep WR" draft is a good idea.

8. So, conceptually, I want our FA money going to NT, DE, 3-tech (if any were to hit FA), Safety depth and CB depth while our draft class going all offense if possible (OT/WR/QB early, OG/WR/TE later).

9. So, my family dumped all of our Luck jersey's last year at Goodwill. Whom would you buy a jersey of going forward?

Yeah, I am concerned about te, as well. I don’t know much about him, but I hope we snag the Purdue boy. Who’s the fa? Hooper? Don’t know much about him either, admittedly, but still hoping he lands here.

I think we need to invest in the offensive line at some point in the first 3 rounds or through free agency, both at guard and tackle. Would be nice to have an upgrade to Glowinski, making him an excellent backup and then a guy to take over from Castonzo for when he does retire.

Agree something has to happen at TE, we have 2 guys, plus a load of nobodies....and i am not entirely sold on Alie-Cox really being a No. 2 guy. Would absolutely love to get Hunter Henry from the Chargers, he would become our best TE in my opinion.

I could see Rivers being a two-year signing, or maybe a four year with escape clauses. I could see them drafting and signing someone.

Agree with most of this, except Eason. He reportedly will not put in the work and has a lousy attitude.

A need that nobody here seems to bring up, is a replacement for Sheard, who probably won't be signed. We have nobody on the roster who has his skill set at DE.

We saw what the defense looked when he missed the first 4 games and it wasn't good.

I propose that we attack the need in free agency with Shaq Lawson, who is starting to put his game together after injuries.

I agree, if they chase a vet FA QB then drafting a developmental QB would seem natural.

Covers both bases and makes sense. Puts some emphasis on the present since they have a competent team that can win now. Also invests in the future beyond a couple years so they don’t have to go back into rebuilding mode in 2-3 years. Or at least end up in the spot they are now.

Of course they could see that veteran presence already there in JB.

Go after Rivers, go after Clooney. (Rivers had one of the best seasons he ever had under Reich and Sirianni)

Draft BPA in first or Love. Get some WRs and interior pass rush in draft, perhaps developmental QB. Maybe a backup lineman or two. Then go after next season as a contender.

Tom Brady could end up with the Titans. Going to be an exciting off-season.

I’m not really sure what a “developmental” QB is. To me there are guys that are ready to start right away and guys that you want to give a year max before they start. When I hear that term though I think of drafting a guy in round 3 or later and working with him for 2 or 3 years before he starts. But I can’t think of anyone that has been done with and worked on.. Am I misunderstanding what is being suggested? Or am I missing anyone that’s this has worked with?

I think you are right that if a guy isn't ready in a year or so max then he probably isn't going to work out anyway, but the term developmental in itself can still apply to a guy who needs a year to learn or transition over to the nfl game. They still need to develop a bit. Now a long term developmental guy or project player? Like you said, probably not worth bothering with.

I am definitely up for Carr, but I think they are going to go with Rivers instead.

I don't like the starting WR guys as much though. Hilton is old and is getting hurt every year. Campbell is still an unknown as a starter. We need a talent infusion there. If they get Rivers, I can see them getting a WR with the 1st or 2nd round pick.

If they end up with Rivers or Carr, and Lamb, Jeudy or Ruggs are there it would be hard to pass on them. Except maybe Kinlaw, who I think will be gone by the 1.13 :cool:

WR is so deep this year I’d rather take QB, DT, or OT at 13. There are going to be some really good WR prospects still there at 34. Drop off at those other positions is steeper.

Exactly--a few injuries like what happened to them at receiver this past season and we're right back to having no one who can stretch the field.

Rumor on NFL radio that we are vetting Philip Rivers. Looking more and more like Rivers.

Also Eric Berry Rumor?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...colts-interest

Hahaha!

Two over the hill guys.Sounds like Grigson desperation

I definitely don’t think berry is over the hill

How many times under Ballard have the Colts been connected to a free agent just because they have money? Remember how it was nearly a sure thing the Colts were going to sign Le'Veon Bell at this time last year?

I think we look into them, but get outbid eventually. I do think the Rivers stuff is real. Too much of it. The Berry stuff, he and Houston are best friends and Ballard knows him. So maybe. I don’t think Berry will be a big signing, unless he captures his old form.

There are still some good DTs in this draft even if Kinlaw doesn’t fall. Jordan Elliot should blow up at the combine and he is PFF’s top rated tackle off production last season, not Kinlaw or Brown. He had the best pass rushing grade since they have been doing it.

Gallimore was on the freaks list, should also blow up, and did well when he was asked to just be a 3-tech on plays. There are a couple other guys too who should be around in the second. Chris Jones was a second, I think Grady Jarret was a 5th, can get difference makers later.

Agree

Watched a couple games of Gallimore. Looks like a beast and reminded me a little of Warren Sapp.

How far will he fall though?

I think he is a late first at best.

He just ran a 4.79 40 at 300lbs. Crazy.

One thing is for sure: We gone get some good ones.

Why not Andy Dalton to the Colts?
 

I'm not thrilled with Rivers or Newton as possible fill ins at QB. Has Dalton's play fallen off that far or is it just his being on a bad team? Constanzo looks to be back, so the O line and running game is there and all he needs to do is be more decisive than Brisset and throw the ball on time.

That is crazy LMAO..... these guys are ridiculous! Haha