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nate505 12-22-2020 01:15 AM

I know I shouldn't give a fuck about pro bowl selections...but how the fuck did Buckner not make it.

Hoopsdoc 12-22-2020 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 180013)
Thanks for the post. If you want some further real-world confirmation of the success of this trade, check out the 49ers fanboards to read some of their whining. Here are a few quick examples if you're curious:


https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/n...colts/page471/


https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/n...search=buckner


https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/n...colts/page471/


https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/n...colts/page470/

Lol, some of the are S-A-L-T-Y. I don’t blame them.

You just don’t trade guys like Buckner. You find a way to keep them.

Chromeburn 12-22-2020 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 180098)
I know I shouldn't give a fuck about pro bowl selections...but how the fuck did Buckner not make it.

Small market bs as usual. Guy was robbed.

Chromeburn 12-22-2020 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 180104)
Lol, some of the are S-A-L-T-Y. I don’t blame them.

You just don’t trade guys like Buckner. You find a way to keep them.

Never understood why they signed Armstead and not Buckner.

JAFF 12-22-2020 05:34 PM

I hope he is pissed off until the colts win the super bowl

Colts And Orioles 12-22-2020 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 180098)



I know that I shouldn't give a fuck about Pro Bowl selections ...... but how the fuck did Buckner not make it ???






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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 180134)



Small-market bullshit, as usual. The guy was robbed.




o


in 8 seasons between 2012 and 2019, Russell Wilson has never received a single vote for MVP ...... not one single vote.



Russell Wilson Reacts to the Fact that He's Never Received a Single MVP Vote in his 8-Year Career

(By John Breech)

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/r...t-year-career/

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Hoopsdoc 12-22-2020 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 180135)
Never understood why they signed Armstead and not Buckner.

I can actually see the logic in it from a pure money ball perspective. They needed space to resign Kittle, Warner, etc and were up against the cap. Buckner wanted at least 20 million per. Armstead was a little cheaper and they talked themselves into the notion that they could make up that difference with their stacked d line.

What they didn’t calculate was the type of player Defo is. You don’t replace incredibly durable, all pro, defensive captains like him, especially when he’s only 25.

The fact that a guy like Ballard jumped on that deal should have clued them in that it was a bad one.

Chromeburn 12-23-2020 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 180170)
o


in 8 seasons between 2012 and 2019, Russell Wilson has never received a single vote for MVP ...... not one single vote.



Russell Wilson Reacts to the Fact that He's Never Received a Single MVP Vote in his 8-Year Career

(By John Breech)

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/r...t-year-career/

o

West coast bias. They play too late for the east coast to watch games. It’s apparent in college sports too.

Chromeburn 12-23-2020 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 180192)
I can actually see the logic in it from a pure money ball perspective. They needed space to resign Kittle, Warner, etc and were up against the cap. Buckner wanted at least 20 million per. Armstead was a little cheaper and they talked themselves into the notion that they could make up that difference with their stacked d line.

What they didn’t calculate was the type of player Defo is. You don’t replace incredibly durable, all pro, defensive captains like him, especially when he’s only 25.

The fact that a guy like Ballard jumped on that deal should have clued them in that it was a bad one.

Armstead is two years older too. Kim law looks like he is going to be pretty good though. But like most dline, might take a couple years.

I’m thinking scenarios. They were losing one of them. I wonder if they offered Armstead and we said no. So the 49ers thought we can keep Buckner, or we can keep Armstead and the 13 pick.

Dam8610 12-23-2020 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 180285)
Armstead is two years older too. Kim law looks like he is going to be pretty good though. But like most dline, might take a couple years.

I’m thinking scenarios. They were losing one of them. I wonder if they offered Armstead and we said no. So the 49ers thought we can keep Buckner, or we can keep Armstead and the 13 pick.

I'm sure that's exactly what they were thinking. That's smart team building. Getting that pick allowed them to essentially draft his replacement in Kinlaw (who the Colts probably would've taken at 13 had they retained the pick) and still keep most of their group together, including the most talented of the bunch in Bosa. The Colts ended up with a great deal out of this, but I don't think the 49ers "lost" this trade. They got what they needed out of it.


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