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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 185308)

This is exactly how I hope the Colts are thinking. Acquiring Stafford would give the Colts a Top 10-12 QB at Teddy Bridgewater money (current deal is 2/$43 if traded to Indy). I already laid out the deal that I think gets it done: Stafford for the Colts 2021 1st round pick and a 2022 2nd round pick with an escalator clause that turns it into a 2022 1st round pick if Stafford is First Team All-Pro or the Colts reach the Super Bowl in 2021. Maybe on the latter clause I could be negotiated down to AFCCG, but that would make the intent very clear: this is a team playing for and ready to compete for a championship. You then go sign Trent Williams as a stopgap at LT and I think we're looking at a Colts team that can compete with Kansas City, and a much worse Colts team beat them just last year. I agree, now is the time to pull the trigger. Hopefully Ballard does.

You do realize Stafford's deal is about as team friendly as it gets for an elite QB, right? He'd have a cap hit of $14 million in 2021 were he traded here. The Colts could actually shop for free agent upgrades if they traded for Stafford. Trent Williams and Yannick Ngakoue would look good in Colts blue alongside Stafford.

Lets not be naive, you don't think he's going to go to a new team without renegotiating his present contract, do you? Especially the Colts knowing their cap space, and the pickle their in regarding the QB position!!

I trust Ballard just don’t give up too much for him Chris but it would make us better so fuck it

A lot of speculation that Rodgers may force his way out of Green Bay. He's an asshole, but a hell of a talent. I would be ok with either him or Stafford.

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 185313)

Why do you think that? The Colts might extend him, but having a talent like Stafford at QB for a $14 million 2021 cap hit at a time when the cap is going to massively hamper several teams is something that could allow the Colts to leverage the market to their advantage.

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 185367)

I just think that he's going to want to renegotiate his present contract, he also knows that 14m is unbelievably low for a franchise QB.

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 185371)

I just think that he's going to want to renegotiate his present contract, he also knows that 14m is unbelievably low for a franchise QB.

If he has the leverage to void trades, that strengthens his ability to renegotiate his contract, but it also diminishes his trade value and some teams that are nearly cap strapped will be out of the running This could mean getting him at a cheaper trade price.

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 185371)

I just think that he's going to want to renegotiate his present contract, he also knows that 14m is unbelievably low for a franchise QB.

His cap hit with the Lions is $33 million. He was already playing on a $14 million base salary this year. If he came here, why would he want to hurt the Colts ability to put the best team around him?

More on Jaime Newman from Senior bowl

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2021/1/...can-team-day-1

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Perhaps the best performance of the day came from someone who didn’t play at all in 2020. The day started for Newman with weigh-ins where his hands measured a large 10 inches from thumb to pinkie. That’s really good. I know many people tend to roll their eyes at things like hand measurements, but there’s a reason NFL teams still want to know how big QB hands are. Historically the most successful quarterbacks have had large hands, that’s not to say that large hands predict success, but some league evaluators believe that large hands will allow some quarterbacks to have the success they wouldn’t have otherwise.

Beyond that measurement, Newman looked like the best quarterback at the Senior Bowl. While that may not be as high of a bar as it was last year, Newman did look better than possible late first-round pick, Mac Jones of the Alabama Crimson Tide. Newman has a big arm and threw well all day long. If Newman keeps up this pace, he might have literally made himself millions of dollars this week in Mobile.

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 185377)

His cap hit with the Lions is $33 million. He was already playing on a $14 million base salary this year. If he came here, why would he want to hurt the Colts ability to put the best team around him?

I just have a feeling that he might want to negotiate his final contract, with whoever winds up getting him.

Irsay quote looks like he thinks a vet would be best currently.

“Our belief is we’re close, that we have a tremendous nucleus of players that are capable of competing for the Super Bowl very soon,” Irsay said, via Zak Keefer of TheAthletic.com. “Ideally if you can get someone to come in this year who’s ready to go, it gives you your best opportunity.”

But then goes on to say

“If we can get the great young guy, the one you can build around for 15 years, that’s ideal, but if not, there’s other ways to get it done,” Irsay said, via Joel A. Erickson of the Indianapolis Star.

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