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Spike 03-22-2018 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 60745)
Dolphins signed RB Frank Gore to a one-year contract. :cool:

Damn. I was hoping Gore went to a team that had a shot for the SB.

Colt Classic 03-22-2018 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 60738)
There are six QBs that could go first round. I believe 4 QBs will go Top 5. (Darnold, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield for the record)

Are they really projected to be that good of NFL QB's? Mayfield is the only one I've seen much of and he seems like he could be the second coming of Johnny Manziel. I didn't hear much NFL hype for any of them until late this season.

Butter 03-22-2018 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 60745)
Dolphins signed RB Frank Gore to a one-year contract. :cool:

I hate this. I know by every reasonable metric it was right to let him walk, but I hate it.

Spike 03-22-2018 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Colt Classic (Post 60756)
Are they really projected to be that good of NFL QB's? Mayfield is the only one I've seen much of and he seems like he could be the second coming of Johnny Manziel. I didn't hear much NFL hype for any of them until late this season.

They all could be busts. I saw a lot of Darnold and Rosen living in California. Darnold was a turnover machine and Rosen has some issues including durability. Mayfield is an immature punk. Not a damn one of them is close to Luck coming out of college. Allen, I don't know much about. I expect the Browns to take Darnold, the Giants to take Rosen if they choose a QB. The Jets are definitely taking one of the QB's, that's for damn sure.

Racehorse 03-22-2018 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 60626)
Certainly not "locking in" per se, but all but one of his free agent signings are on offense, so either he doesn't recognize the problems on defense (unlikely) or he plans on investing heavily there in the draft (more likely).

Well, defensive players are much faster when younger, whereas offensive players sometimes do fine even as they age

I know I worded this wrong, but my point is that a young defense is more valuable than a young offense.

omahacolt 03-22-2018 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 60699)
Fleming would make me feel better about the OL, I am surprised he's still available.

he isn't some great player.

FatDT 03-22-2018 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 60771)
he isn't some great player.

I don't think he's great but I think he's better than any other RT option we have. And he shouldn't cost much at this point.

omahacolt 03-22-2018 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 60772)
I don't think he's great but I think he's better than any other RT option we have. And he shouldn't cost much at this point.

i would rather roll with our guys

1965southpaw 03-23-2018 08:09 PM

Rapsheet on Total Access this evening says that Jests have made the largest offer for Suh at greater than 10/year...not known how many years or how much guaranteed but they lead Rams, Titans, Saints on the money front. Willie McCheeter suggests that while the money is important, in his conversations with Suh he's also thinking about his legacy and wants to sign with a contender.....and that ain't the Jests. I just hope he doesn't sign with the Tits

Oops.......Jets have pulled their offer!

Spike 03-26-2018 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 1965southpaw (Post 60950)
Rapsheet on Total Access this evening says that Jests have made the largest offer for Suh at greater than 10/year...not known how many years or how much guaranteed but they lead Rams, Titans, Saints on the money front. Willie McCheeter suggests that while the money is important, in his conversations with Suh he's also thinking about his legacy and wants to sign with a contender.....and that ain't the Jests. I just hope he doesn't sign with the Tits

Oops.......Jets have pulled their offer!

Suh signed with the Rams for 1 year, 14 million. Damn that's going to be a hell of a defense.

Butter 03-26-2018 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 61160)
Suh signed with the Rams for 1 year, 14 million. Damn that's going to be a hell of a defense.

Yep, that it well be.

Chaka 03-26-2018 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 61160)
Suh signed with the Rams for 1 year, 14 million. Damn that's going to be a hell of a defense.

Sounds like it, but these kind of things never seem to work out as well as expected

Spike 03-26-2018 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 61163)
Sounds like it, but these kind of things never seem to work out as well as expected

True, but Suh only has a 1 year contract so I think he will be a beast for his next big payday.

Dam8610 03-27-2018 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 61160)
Suh signed with the Rams for 1 year, 14 million. Damn that's going to be a hell of a defense.

Who's their NT, though?

Spike 03-27-2018 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 61168)
Who's their NT, though?

Suh will probably end up playing NT.

FatDT 03-27-2018 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 61169)
Suh will probably end up playing NT.

Yep. The Jay Ratliff/Sly Williams role.

Puck 03-28-2018 08:26 AM

Kevin Bowen
@KBowen1070
Some tidbits from sitting down with Chris Ballard:

-FWIW, Andrew Luck is still not throwing an actual NFL football
-#Colts went after some big name free agent
-Deeper personnel look

1965southpaw 03-28-2018 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 61352)
Kevin Bowen
@KBowen1070
Some tidbits from sitting down with Chris Ballard:

-FWIW, Andrew Luck is still not throwing an actual NFL football
-#Colts went after some big name free agent
-Deeper personnel look



I'm listening to Kevin Bowen on Big Joe and Grady debrief his interactions with Reich in Orlando......a few sound bites (framed from the perspective of Kevin's takeaways from conversation but from also observing and interacting with him and others)

1. Coaching style will be aggressive, competent, well prepped, play to win....not not to lose. Yes, Yes, Yes!!!
2. For a the first time Kevin is truly getting the sense that Colts leadership have confidence that Luck will be ready....i.e. Has really turned the corner
3. Even in the scenario that only 2 QB are taken in the top 5 picks of the draft and the other consensus top 3 non QB (Barkley,Nelson, Chubb) are taken, there is a "mystery 6th" non QB talent that Ballard thinks is a big time playmaker.....Kevin couldn't learn who that is but because of this he thinks it's very unlikely Ballard will trade back further than 6 unless he's on the clock and a QB needy team is willing to give up another huge haul a la the jets deal.

4. Forgot to mention re oline.....although Reich agrees that the line needs some new talent, Kevin's sense is that he's not more concerned about the oline over other talent gaps....Reich really believes that the scheme change, up tempo getting the ball out quicker is going to make a significant impact on reducing the number if sacks even with the same talent. THIS!! Completely agree with this! Can't be said enough times!!

YDFL Commish 03-28-2018 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 1965southpaw (Post 61373)
I'm listening to Kevin Bowen on Big Joe and Grady debrief his interactions with Reich in Orlando......a few sound bites (framed from the perspective of Kevin's takeaways from conversation but from also observing and interacting with him and others)

1. Coaching style will be aggressive, competent, well prepped, play to win....not not to lose. Yes, Yes, Yes!!!
2. For a the first time Kevin is truly getting the sense that Colts leadership have confidence that Luck will be ready....i.e. Has really turned the corner
3. Even in the scenario that only 2 QB are taken in the top 5 picks of the draft and the other consensus top 3 non QB (Barkley,Nelson, Chubb) are taken, there is a "mystery 6th" non QB talent that Ballard thinks is a big time playmaker.....Kevin couldn't learn who that is but because of this he thinks it's very unlikely Ballard will trade back further than 6 unless he's on the clock and a QB needy team is willing to give up another huge haul a la the jets deal.

My guess for the mystery 6th man is Denzel Ward. He's got the lookof a zone corner.

FatDT 03-28-2018 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 61383)
My guess for the mystery 6th man is Denzel Ward. He's got the lookof a zone corner.

No one gets excited for a zone corner in the top 10.

And the Cowboys didn't play exclusive or even primary zone under Marinelli. They mixed their coverages. I expect Eberflus will do the same.

VeveJones007 03-28-2018 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 61395)
No one gets excited for a zone corner in the top 10.

And the Cowboys didn't play exclusive or even primary zone under Marinelli. They mixed their coverages. I expect Eberflus will do the same.

It’ll be a mix, but I agree that the value of a corner is lower in this system. LBs who can both cover and play the run are more important, which is why I think Smith is the 4th player.

YDFL Commish 03-28-2018 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 61409)
It’ll be a mix, but I agree that the value of a corner is lower in this system. LBs who can both cover and play the run are more important, which is why I think Smith is the 4th player.

Smith would be great.

But, this is another instance, just like when Freeney was drafted. If this is your guy, that you really have a conviction in, then you don't fuck around trading back. You take him at #6 and let the critics keep spouting off about value.

VeveJones007 03-28-2018 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 61413)
Smith would be great.

But, this is another instance, just like when Freeney was drafted. If this is your guy, that you really have a conviction in, then you don't fuck around trading back. You take him at #6 and let the critics keep spouting off about value.

If it were me, Chubb was off the board and Nelson was available, I'd see what the Bears would offer to move up. They really want a guard and they have shown a willingness to overpay to move up and get the player they want. Then I would go with Smith at #8.

Colt Classic 03-28-2018 08:07 PM

Point #4 above should put to bed the idea of drafting/signing 3+ high profile O-linemen.

Dam8610 03-28-2018 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 61409)
It’ll be a mix, but I agree that the value of a corner is lower in this system. LBs who can both cover and play the run are more important, which is why I think Smith is the 4th player.

It's probably Fitzpatrick. We saw with Malik Hooker last year that Ballard loves ballhawking, playmaking, rangy safeties.

ukcolt 04-13-2018 01:01 PM

With Dez Bryant being released by the Cowboys today, is there any interest from the Colts? He is not the dominant player he used to be, but i suspect he would step straight into the 2nd receiver role. It will be interesting to see what money he is looking for, but he could be an excellent pickup in my opinion. And would again allow us to concentrate on other positions in the draft early, and leave WR to a mid or late round selection.

VeveJones007 04-13-2018 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ukcolt (Post 62982)
With Dez Bryant being released by the Cowboys today, is there any interest from the Colts? He is not the dominant player he used to be, but i suspect he would step straight into the 2nd receiver role. It will be interesting to see what money he is looking for, but he could be an excellent pickup in my opinion. And would again allow us to concentrate on other positions in the draft early, and leave WR to a mid or late round selection.

Colts won't be interested. By the time the Colts are hoping to contend, Bryant would be even further in decline. Take the next 2 years and play 21-24 year-olds who can be peaking at the time you hope to contend.

That last sentence is Ballard's strategy in a nutshell. While I agree with the philosophy, I would have preferred 1-2 bigger UFA acquisitions to stabilize certain parts of the roster. Oh well, he's going all in with the draft and develop approach. It just adds a little more risk.

Spike 04-13-2018 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ukcolt (Post 62982)
With Dez Bryant being released by the Cowboys today, is there any interest from the Colts? He is not the dominant player he used to be, but i suspect he would step straight into the 2nd receiver role. It will be interesting to see what money he is looking for, but he could be an excellent pickup in my opinion. And would again allow us to concentrate on other positions in the draft early, and leave WR to a mid or late round selection.

I sure as hell hope not. Cowboys didn't even try to lower his pay, just flat out released him and the Cowboys aren't exactly overflowing with great receivers. Dez looked horrible last year, seems like he can't catch worth a shit anymore.

rcubed 04-13-2018 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 62989)
I sure as hell hope not. Cowboys didn't even try to lower his pay, just flat out released him and the Cowboys aren't exactly overflowing with great receivers. Dez looked horrible last year, seems like he can't catch worth a shit anymore.

or seperate. no thanks.

Spike 04-13-2018 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 63000)
or seperate. no thanks.

Exactly, don't need that prima donna POS on the Colts.

Puck 04-13-2018 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ukcolt (Post 62982)
With Dez Bryant being released by the Cowboys today, is there any interest from the Colts? He is not the dominant player he used to be, but i suspect he would step straight into the 2nd receiver role. It will be interesting to see what money he is looking for, but he could be an excellent pickup in my opinion. And would again allow us to concentrate on other positions in the draft early, and leave WR to a mid or late round selection.

Hell no. Fuck that guy


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