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YDFL Commish 04-27-2018 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 65385)
I am shocked how shitty this draft has been. The entire offseason really.

Luck will truly have to carry this team. All the draft picks and money and pretty much zero talent added. Just dudes

It's odd how you can comment after the draft on "dudes" but have no input on any of players before the draft.

Maybe you could enlighten us as to who the players who you consider not just "dudes"?

omahacolt 04-27-2018 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 65388)
All 5 guys drafted so far will start next year. Hopefully at least 4 will work out.

Hahahaha no they won’t

omahacolt 04-27-2018 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 65410)
It's odd how you can comment after the draft on "dudes" but have no input on any of players before the draft.

Maybe you could enlighten us as to who the players who you consider not just "dudes"?

Landry and Jackson were prime picks. Pretty sure I said that before the 2nd round started.

I find it odd how everyone likes these dudes but nobody wanted them 24 hours ago

Dam8610 04-27-2018 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 65431)
Landry and Jackson were prime picks. Pretty sure I said that before the 2nd round started.

I find it odd how everyone likes these dudes but nobody wanted them 24 hours ago

Everyone has their favorite players to fill roles. Ballard filled the right roles, we just have to hope he did it with the right players.

Gimmick 04-27-2018 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 64852)
I just can't get with an OG at 6.

Look, Nelson may well be a very good player. May be an All-Pro. There's no sure thing at any position, OL included (cough Jonathan Cooper or Chance Warmack cough), so I won't say for sure. I won't be surprised if he's very good.

But let's say Nelson is amazing and the RG/RT situation is still Slauson/Haeg or something like that. Luck is still in mortal danger, and defenses will still shut down your run game because it will be so damn easy to load up on the left side. Does a great OG really have any impact, in that situation?

Let's say Reich's scheme emphasizes quick passing decisions. Isn't an OG's impact neutralized in that situation?

I guess I just look at a lottery OG as a total luxury pick in today's NFL. Is the difference between Nelson and Hernandez or Wynn, for instance, really that big? Is Nelson really going to make more plays for the Colts than a Roquan Smith or Tremaine Edmunds?

The only way you can sell me on an OG that high for the Colts is by telling me this is a cultural statement and trendsetter, and even that feels a bit elusive as a justification.

I still think Day 2 is set up to go very well, and again, none of this is saying Nelson will be a bad player. But I am just philosophically opposed to an OG at 6 the same way many of you are opposed to a RB at 6.

Stop drunk posting. For the first time in decades, the Colts are finally serious about winning the LOS. Lots of high draft picks on OL and DL now. And you're complaining?

You guys are clueless. Great picks from Ballard so far. Luck needs protection.

Gimmick 04-27-2018 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 64869)
You have to be shitting me. After all the bitching on this board about Luck being killed. About the running backs having zero holes about how soft this team is the complaint is that we draft the best offensive lineman, maybe the best player in the draft but he is a guard? He seems to provide dominance at a position we haven’t dominated in ever. He also provides a locker room and game day nastiness that we desperately need Ballard is building thru the trenches. He said he would and he is sticking to his philosophy. I love the direction he is taking this team. Love the pick.

Great post, Oldcolt. At least some people get it.

omahacolt 04-27-2018 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 65434)
Everyone has their favorite players to fill roles. Ballard filled the right roles, we just have to hope he did it with the right players.

Ballard passed on bpa every chance he got today

Dam8610 04-27-2018 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 65440)
Ballard passed on bpa every chance he got today

Often the guys who are rated high on media boards that fall to the mid 2nd don't work out. Hopefully Landry follows that trend.

Spike 04-28-2018 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Gimmick (Post 65437)
Stop drunk posting. For the first time in decades, the Colts are finally serious about winning the LOS. Lots of high draft picks on OL and DL now. And you're complaining?

You guys are clueless
. Great picks from Ballard so far. Luck needs protection.

NO, not all of us are clueless. I actually agree with you.

YDFL Commish 04-28-2018 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 65431)
Landry and Jackson were prime picks. Pretty sure I said that before the 2nd round started.

I find it odd how everyone likes these dudes but nobody wanted them 24 hours ago

My most trusted source for NLF Draft Player rankings is NFL Draft Scout.

Here are their rankings:

Quenton Nelson: OG Rank 1, Overall Rank 5, Round 1
Darius Leonard: OLB Rank 7, Overall Rank 77, Round 2-3
Braden Smith: OG Rank 5, Overall Rank 74, Round 2-3
Kemoko Turay: DE Rank 5, Overall Rank 58, Round 2
TyQuan Lewis: DE Rank 12, Overall Rank 129, Round 4

So other than Lewis, each player was pick near where NFL Draft Scout had them ranked.

I too liked Landry and Josh Jackson and thought, that they were terrific values where they were chosen. But I can't say I'm unhappy with the picks. I absolutely love the Darius Leonard pick.

I'm still gonna trust in Ballard until I see how these guys play.


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