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sherck 04-03-2018 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 61879)
Reich should know ho that worked out, (Lane Johnson). The other comp I've heard O'Neill compared to is Nate Solder.

I would take a Lane Johnson / Nate Solder type OT at the top of the 2nd round in a heartbeat.

Both those guys have been solid/good almost every season of their careers.

That is the type of OT we need on the roster to hold down right OT for the next couple of years and perhaps, perhaps, be able to take over for Castonzo when he starts slowing down.

I really hope we get someone at the top of the 2nd round (or McGlincy if we are trading down in the 1st round) who can lock down right OT for us in 2018.

Walk Worthy,

Chromeburn 04-03-2018 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ZiaColt (Post 61864)
I think that, if anything, it's more likely at this point that both Wynn and Hernandez will be gone before #36 than it is that they'll both be there. I'd be happy with either one. I expect at least 5 OLs will go in the first round.

Not sure I'd take O'Neill early 2nd round--it sounds like some scouts STILL regard him as "a TE playing out of position" and I don't know how that would work long-term in the NFL. But a 6' 6" 300-plus kid who can run a 4.82 40 is certainly intriguing.

But I'm hoping by #36 the BPA may be a DB, WR, or maybe an LB if one drops out of the 1st round with all the QBs, OLs, etc. going in Round One.
And, with any luck, maybe B. Smith drops to #49, where IMO he might be a better value than any OL the Colts could draft at #36 (assuming Wynn and Hernandez are both gone by then).

Someone is going to fall, someone’s always does. Smith had a medical red flag come out so he is falling a bit.

ZiaColt 04-03-2018 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 61884)
I would take a Lane Johnson / Nate Solder type OT at the top of the 2nd round in a heartbeat.

Both those guys have been solid/good almost every season of their careers.

That is the type of OT we need on the roster to hold down right OT for the next couple of years and perhaps, perhaps, be able to take over for Castonzo when he starts slowing down.

I really hope we get someone at the top of the 2nd round (or McGlincy if we are trading down in the 1st round) who can lock down right OT for us in 2018.

Walk Worthy,

for me, it would depend on who else is available there. I'd be surprised if O'Neill's rated the 36th or 37th BPA at the time of the draft, and I'd expect some possibly higher-rated DBs and WRs would also be there, maybe even a higher-rated LB.

But maybe the DBs available there wouldn't be a good fit for Eberflus' defense, and I'm not completely sold on this group of WRs, so if Ballard chose O'Neill (or maybe Rankin if he's there) at one of those 2 picks, I guess I wouldn't be terribly upset. Especially if Wynn and Hernandez were both already gone. The Colts need help at so many positions, especially with the switch to the 4-3. Maybe one of the "first-round" DLs slips to #36 or #37.

I also wouldn't be at all upset if Ballard chose B. Smith at #49 if he were still available there.

Coltsalr 04-03-2018 07:38 PM

@HolderStephen
Just a side note on Colts/Roquan Smith or any other possible Indy pick: Their defensive selections will skew heavily toward speed. I cannot emphasize this enough. Trust me.



I for one will miss seeing Antonio Morrison and the rest of Grigson’s picks that are too slow for the NFL...

Puck 04-03-2018 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 61884)
I would take a Lane Johnson / Nate Solder type OT at the top of the 2nd round in a heartbeat.

Both those guys have been solid/good almost every season of their careers.

That is the type of OT we need on the roster to hold down right OT for the next couple of years and perhaps, perhaps, be able to take over for Castonzo when he starts slowing down.

I really hope we get someone at the top of the 2nd round (or McGlincy if we are trading down in the 1st round) who can lock down right OT for us in 2018.

Walk Worthy,

Still drafting for need. Your gonna be disappointed. It will be BPA

Maniac 04-03-2018 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 61957)
Still drafting for need. Your gonna be disappointed. It will be BPA

It should always be a mix of BPA, need, and positional value at that draft spot. The Colts have enough needs that they have a lot of options to almost truly go BPA though, outside of QB.

Puck 04-03-2018 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JesusChrist (Post 61966)
It should always be a mix of BPA, need, and positional value at that draft spot. The Colts have enough needs that they have a lot of options to almost truly go BPA though, outside of QB.

Sherck is a strictly need drafter

Dam8610 04-03-2018 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 61957)
Still drafting for need. Your gonna be disappointed. It will be BPA

No one drafts purely BPA. The best GMs draft at the best intersection of BPA and need, with a strong weighting toward BPA.

rcubed 04-03-2018 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JesusChrist (Post 61966)
It should always be a mix of BPA, need, and positional value at that draft spot. The Colts have enough needs that they have a lot of options to almost truly go BPA though, outside of QB.

Need sways the choice if the players are close in grade, that's my opinion. Draft slot come into play if talking top of first round

Maniac 04-04-2018 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 61971)
Need sways the choice if the players are close in grade, that's my opinion. Draft slot come into play if talking top of first round

Yep, if teams were drafting strictly BPA, 3 or 4 QB's wouldn't be going at the top of this draft.


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