That is the interesting option to use the #34 pick with.

That pick could be seen by a lot of teams as pure gold if "their" guy whom they were sure was a 1st round pick is still on the board at the end of day one.

Much like when we traded our next year 1st round pick for Tony Ugoh, someone who is likely to end up with a top half 1st round pick next season might be willing to give it to us for their guy this year.

Ending up 2020 with two top half 1st round picks is a really attractive place to be if you want to go TL shopping. Both your 1st round picks and a future 2nd for the #1 overall? Its possible, it depends on how far down the board you are.

Not trying to say that this is the silver bullet, but...

2019 / 70.4% completion / 4,054 yards / 7.9 ypa / 21 TD / 08 INT / 100.8 QBR
2018 / 68.9% completion / 4,049 yards / 7.3 ypa / 19 TD / 10 INT / 93.9 QBR
2017 / 62.7% completion / 3,496 yards / 6.8 ypa / 22 TD / 13 INT / 86.4 QBR

2019 / 60.8% completion / 2,942 yards / 6.6 ypa / 18 TD / 06 INT / 88.0 QBR
2017 / 58.8% completion / 3,098 yards / 6.6 ypa / 13 TD / 07 INT / 81.7 QBR

Darek Carr (top stat lines) will be 29 for the 2020 season
Jacoby Brisset (bottom stat lines) will be 27 for most of the 2020 season

All stats are trending up for Carr except number of TDs thrown over the past three years. You could almost say the same for JB but his yards per attempt did not change from 2017 to 2019.

Bridgewater does not have enough snaps in 2017 - 2019 to make a good comparison. Sure, he played GREAT in 2019 (3 games over 70% completion, 4:1 TD to INT ratio, 99.1 QBR but I am not sold on paying him as a long term starter based on that small of a body of work.

I don't know what the Raiders will want for Carr but of all the free agent options out there, he appears to be the one that looks the most attractive from a skill, cap and compensation standpoint. His cap hit over the next three years would be just under $20m per year for a team who trades from him.

If we could trade # 44 for Carr, I think that would be a good thing.

Here's Spotrac's breakdown of Brian Hoyer's contract:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/indianap...an-hoyer-7035/

If I'm reading this correctly (and assuming Spotrac's info is also correct), Hoyer's 2020 salary and bonus are scheduled to become guaranteed in "March 2020", and that if he is cut before then there would be essentially no cap hit. So, if Hoyer somehow survives March, then I'd say we are unlikely to trade for Carr, sign Rivers, and possibly unlikely to draft a QB at all. Free agency begins on March 18, so I would be nice to know the exact date of Hoyer's guarantee date.

So I guess Hoyer status will be the canary in the coal mine which will signal what the Colts intent is with respect to the QB position this offseason. I gotta think he's a goner.

No reason for him to be on the roster today.

Irsay is going to be available to the media tomorrow. Any guesses what he will say about the CBA that will tick off the other owners>

As of right now, give me Darek Carr and draft a defensive lineman/pass-rusher with 13. I don't think the kid QBs we could get are going to pan out, and I don't want to be stuck with a Mitch Trubisky type player. This changes if Costanzo retires.

On a well coached team, with a good defense and good running game...those stats will win you a SB.

I would not be willing to give up the 13th pick for Carr though.

If you can get Carr for the 44th overall pick, do it. Otherwise, I'd prefer to roll the dice on Bridgewater since all he'll cost is money (and the Colts have a ton of that) and we're talking about a former first round QB who looked like a budding star prior to a devastating knee injury in Minnesota, who THEN came out and did what he did this year filling in for one of the best QBs ever. The body of work to me suggests a diamond in the rough that could allow the Colts to spend on other parts of the team and put together a real contender very quickly.

With Carrs' contract running through 2022, I could see the Colts offering a 3rd round pick (79). If the Raiders don't value him enough to let him go I imagine a 3rd to free up the cap space would do it. :cool:

Carrs' Cap Hits:
2020: $18.9 million
2021: $19.52 million
2022: $19.77 million
2023: Free Agent

Rumor the Colts are interested in Nelson Agolhor of the Eagles. God I hope not, guy can’t catch a cold. If the do sign him I will seriously have to question their priorities when evaluating and signing receivers.

If the Raiders sign someone else at QB. I doubt they keep Carr, you should be able to get him pretty cheap. I certainly wouldn’t give up the 44th pick. Rather draft Fromm with it.

Don't remember where I read it, but I read Bridgewater wants $30+ ?

Somebody will pay it

Hopefully not us


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It was on twitter... he more likely to get between 22-25 million. Bears might be top player in going after him or the Panthers.

No they wont.

I wouldn't. But I'm not a GM. Signing Bridgewater $30 million isn't the worst mistake any GM could make.

Ok, how about this, ANY free agent signed by the Washington Redskins? They give Bridgewater $40 million its not near as bad as Albert Hansworth's signing

I’d definitely take Carr as for teddy.... Vikings had a hell of a defense and teddy didn’t have to do much then on to the Saints one of the most talented well coached teams in the league again teddy was a solid game manager until drew returned. He’s never been asked to light it up offensively

I want a Bugatti. It's nice to want things. I think he might be able to get $25 million per year, maybe all guaranteed if the contract is short enough. I think that's a better risk than drafting a QB or rolling with Briskett, and it allows the front office to spend the entire draft capital on improving the roster overall.

Anyone for Jordan Reed?
 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/02/20/jo...ssion-injuries

Replace Ebron on a short contract?

It depends on how much competition there is to get him. Competition with other teams to acquire him could raise the cost (in draft pick compensation)

Reed is a decent pass catching TE when healthy. But that’s the issue - he’s always hurt. I think he’s had something like 7 concussions. At the right price he wouldn’t be bad as depth at TE, but with the way Reich prefers to use TEs I’d want someone either more reliable or more dynamic in the “Ebron role”. And he doesn’t really fit Ballard’s MO for backups.

Irsay has a press conference and gave an update on things. Expects Castonzo back. No extension for Mack. Could they roll with Jacoby again? Oh and they were going to select Russel Wilson in the 4th round.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...t-qb-situation

I'd rather go for Austin Hooper.

Or Hunter Henry.

aggregating some ballard info from presser:
- castonzo not retiring, working new deal, but calls it year-to-year
- luck is retired
- he DOES feel his locker room is now ready for a bigger name free agent.

1. YAY!
2.Booo!
3. YAY!
2 out of 3 ain't bad.

was that a meatloaf reference?!

guilty

You could have slept on it and gave an answer in the morning. :cool:

The locker room is ready?! :rolleyes: What exactly happened this past season that has caused him to finally feel that way?

1) someone he wants is available

Or more likely

2) Irsay told him he better spend some fucking money and improve the team

There is a rule in the CBA that states teams must spend at least 89% of the salary cap over a four year period. That current period began in 2017 and is in its final year.

I believe the Colts are under that number by approx. $42,000,000. The 89% is required by the CBA, Ballard may be forced to spend some of Irsays money in free agency, I believe if they don't they are fined and money goes to Colts players salary pool... :cool:

Draft picks should eat up a chunk along with what ever Castonzo re-signs for, rest must be through extensions and UFA signings.

Sherck could give us exact numbers and tell us what the rookie pool would be, Castanzo's amount, and what we would have to spend. Wish that guy would come back. By the way, I think it would leave between $20 and $25M that we have to spend, which is chump change in this league. Carr or Stafford would cover that amount and be better options than Phillip freaking Rivers!

So the money has to be spent, but might as well dress it up like this is part of a carefully calculated plan.

If I had to guess:

Colts players who entered NFL in 2017 who will be 4th year vets in 2020:

Malik Hooker, defensive secondary
Marlon Mack, offensive backfield
Grover Stewart, defensive line
Anthony Walker, defensive linebackers
Kenny Moore, defensive secondary (UDFA)
Rigoberto Sanchez, special teams (UDFA)

Colts players who entered NFL in 2018 who will be 3rd year vets in 2020:

Quenton Nelson, offensive line
Darius Leonard, defensive linebackers
Braden Smith, offensive line
Kemoko Turay, defensive line
Nyheim Hines, offensive backfield
Jordan Wilkins, offensive backfield
Tyquan Lewis, defensive line
Zach Pascal, wide receiver (UDFA)

Longer term NFL veteran who are Main-Stays on team:

Anthony Castonzo, offensive line
Ryan Kelly, offensive line
T.Y. Hilton, wide receiver
Jack Doyle, tight end
Justin Houston, defensive line
Pierre Desir, defensive secondary
Denico Autry, defensive line
Mark Glowinski, offensive line
Jacoby Brissett, quarterback

23 names on those three lists encompassing most of our starters.

Almost half the locker room will be 3rd year vets or older.

That would be the change that I think happened from last season to this season.

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Irsay told him to spend money ! ? ! :)

His plan was working and is. Luck was a 5-6 game winning difference over Brissett. We are a QB and a few other pieces from contending for a SB.

Also nothing wrong with altering your plan when things dont pan out... something Ballard does that Grigson never would do.

They wanted Clowney all along Texans just pro longed the inevitable and Colts didn’t wanna give up picks

Meh, so are 20 other teams. I don't think we're anywhere close to SB contention. We have a good o-line, decent RBs behind that line, TY, Leonard, and Moore. The rest are average or developing players. Houston and Doyle are pretty good. Not looking for an argument or anything, it's just my opinion. I'm hoping for the best, but I'm expecting mediocrity. JB will start again this year.

Clowney is injury prone and overrated.

We were SB contenders before the season and we lost our QB.... a questionable not yet proven 2nd string QB stepped in and the team went 7-9 regardless of the fact Brissett is fucking aweful... I agree it's not about argument.

Brissett is awful and I'm looking forward to the upgrade at QB.