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Luck4Reich 12-30-2019 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 149828)
Burrow would almost be worth it, but you’d have to package this years first and both second rounders, next years first, and probably JB too.

That's not happening.... but I wouldn't care about losing JB..he sucks.

Hoopsdoc 12-30-2019 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 149828)
Burrow would almost be worth it, but you’d have to package this years first and both second rounders, next years first, and probably JB too.

That would suck, but you HAVE to have a franchise type quarterback to compete in today’s NFL.

Chaka 12-30-2019 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 149828)
Burrow would almost be worth it, but you’d have to package this years first and both second rounders, next years first, and probably JB too.

For a franchise QB, I’d make that trade in a heartbeat. But I think the price might be higher if Burrow fits that bill.

rcubed 12-30-2019 01:23 PM

Here is the draft order ahead of us and my thoughts on whether they draft a QB.

Cincinnati - Yes
Washington- No
Detroit - Yes
NY Giants - No
Miami - ??? what do they do with Rosen
LA Chargers - Probably draft a QB
Carolina - No
Arizona - No
Jacksonville - Probably not
Cleveland - No
NY Jets - No
Oakland - Maybe/No. Gruden doesnt seem to like rookie QBs
Indianapolis - HOPE SO!!

so I have 2 yes, 1 probable, and 1 question mark ahead of us for drafting QBs (obviously not taking into account other teams trading up). with that scenario I think we would need to trade up in front of chargers as I dont think we would be able to go ahead of Detroit. however, knowing how ballard likes his picks I would guess we stay at our current spot and see if one of the QBs drops to us

Chromeburn 12-30-2019 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 149828)
Burrow would almost be worth it, but you’d have to package this years first and both second rounders, next years first, and probably JB too.

I have to admit that Burrow looks exactly like the type of QB for this offense. Accurate and decisive, elusive in the pocket and can move to extend the play if necessary. He find his correct option with ease. His accuracy is outstanding. His arm isn't the strongest but it is more than adequate and he throws with good touch.

I don't think the Bengals will listent to offers. They have been mediocre for too long to trade the pick. But if they were to listen, I would throw a package their way. Honestly, trading a bunch of picks does suck, but you can supplement through free agency and if you get a franchise QB it could last you 10+ years at the position. We have a lot of pieces in place already. I know this is counter to Ballard's style, exact opposite really, but things change a little when you needa QB.

Also Hurts looked awful. I would not look in his direction. Trying to find a bargain at the position doesn't usually work. Plus the years you have to spend to figure out if he is good. This may end up being Ballard's most important off-season of his career.

Chromeburn 12-30-2019 02:24 PM

I disagree a little


Cincinnati - Yes
Washington- No
Detroit - No
NY Giants - No
Miami - Yes, but with which pick?
LA Chargers - Yes
Carolina - Yes/Maybe
Arizona - No
Jacksonville - Depends what option is there. But I think they may roll with Minshew
Cleveland - No
NY Jets - No
Oakland - Gruden wants a coach on the field like Gannon was. Herbert is pretty smart, might be a possibility here.
Indianapolis - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


I think there are a lot more teams looking for QB's in front of us. This is why mediocrity sucks when looking for a QB. I think Burrow, Tua, and Herbert could all be gone by the time we pick.

Puck 12-30-2019 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 149879)
I disagree a little


Cincinnati - Yes
Washington- No
Detroit - No
NY Giants - No
Miami - Yes, but with which pick?
LA Chargers - Yes
Carolina - Yes/Maybe
Arizona - No
Jacksonville - Depends what option is there. But I think they may roll with Minshew
Cleveland - No
NY Jets - No
Oakland - Gruden wants a coach on the field like Gannon was. Herbert is pretty smart, might be a possibility here.
Indianapolis - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


I think there are a lot more teams looking for QB's in front of us. This is why mediocrity sucks when looking for a QB. I think Burrow, Tua, and Herbert could all be gone by the time we pick.


Agree Detroit is not taking a QB. But if one is there they like then Ballard should make a trade for Stafford. Not sure how much that would take considering they owe him a ton next season.

rcubed 12-30-2019 03:28 PM

my bad - for some reason I thought staffords contact was up on detroit. so I would change that to a NO as well.

I think carolina sticks with grier unless tua is there...

dwilli57 12-30-2019 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 149879)
I disagree a little


Cincinnati - Yes
Washington- No
Detroit - No
NY Giants - No
Miami - Yes, but with which pick?
LA Chargers - Yes
Carolina - Yes/Maybe
Arizona - No
Jacksonville - Depends what option is there. But I think they may roll with Minshew
Cleveland - No
NY Jets - No
Oakland - Gruden wants a coach on the field like Gannon was. Herbert is pretty smart, might be a possibility here.
Indianapolis - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


I think there are a lot more teams looking for QB's in front of us. This is why mediocrity sucks when looking for a QB. I think Burrow, Tua, and Herbert could all be gone by the time we pick.

PFF has a mock draft showing us taking Herbert. Not saying PFF is THE authority but he might be worth a look this week in the Rose Bowl.

Colt Classic 12-30-2019 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dwilli57 (Post 149908)
PFF has a mock draft showing us taking Herbert. Not saying PFF is THE authority but he might be worth a look this week in the Rose Bowl.

Oh boy, an Oregon quarterback.


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