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GoBigBlue88
08-31-2008, 06:23 PM
Per NFL.com cuts blog:

Indianapolis claimed linebacker Buster Davis, whom the Lions released Saturday.

GoBigBlue88
08-31-2008, 06:28 PM
A little on Buster Davis, fyi:

1. Third-round draft pick of Lions last year who saw no PT for Lions...which could either mean a) he's not good enough to play for the Lions or b) Matt Millen does not know how to draft for his own system.

2. A lot of Colts fans wanted this guy last year. Colts fans are not Polian, but I believe the Colts had some interest as well.

3. Small, speedy LB. Go figure.

rideronthestorm
08-31-2008, 06:30 PM
Nice, I remember a lot of us wanted him last year. Let's see what he has.

IUCPF
08-31-2008, 06:31 PM
Buster? Is he lanky?

BlueStampede
08-31-2008, 06:59 PM
Where did he go to school? I remember reading about him.

YDFL Commish
08-31-2008, 07:03 PM
FSU I think.

Monty514
08-31-2008, 07:06 PM
http://z.about.com/d/tvcomedies/1/0/X/-/-/-/buster_bluth.jpg

YDFL Commish
08-31-2008, 07:08 PM
http://z.about.com/d/tvcomedies/1/0/X/-/-/-/buster_bluth.jpg

Oh so that's what 3efin looks like.

butter
08-31-2008, 07:17 PM
I remember him being hyped a bit as a good LB for the Colts. I wonder who is getting the axe to fit him.

indcolts18288
08-31-2008, 07:22 PM
HA! I got my wish!:)

Dam8610
08-31-2008, 07:23 PM
http://www.33smiley.com/smiley/emotions/7.gif

Dam8610
08-31-2008, 07:30 PM
3. Small, speedy LB. Go figure.

False. Small, slow LB that got overhyped because of a dominant performance against a mediocre Miami squad is far more accurate.

Apballin
08-31-2008, 07:31 PM
http://seminoles.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/davis_buster00.html

http://www.kffl.com/article/67438/160.

Interesting how the second article said two teams he would fit would be Tampa and Indianapolis. I like this guy.

indcolts18288
08-31-2008, 07:34 PM
False. Small, slow LB that got overhyped because of a dominant performance against a mediocre Miami squad is far more accurate.
The guy was a hell of a player at FSU. Mike Singletary said while coaching him in the Senior Bowl that Davis was the best LB in the Senior Bowl. Not saying that makes him right but it's Mike Singletary, obviously he saw something. Not saying Davis will last as a Colt but you never know. And the dude is definitely not slow.

Dam8610
08-31-2008, 07:36 PM
The guy was a hell of a player at FSU. Mike Singletary said while coaching him in the Senior Bowl that Davis was the best LB in the Senior Bowl. Not saying that makes him right but it's Mike Singletary, obviously he saw something. Not saying Davis will last as a Colt but you never know.

He gives it his all, but he's shown that he just doesn't have the ability to make it in the NFL twice now. He's been cut from the Cardinals and Lions.

IUCPF
08-31-2008, 07:42 PM
He gives it his all, but he's shown that he just doesn't have the ability to make it in the NFL twice now. He's been cut from the Cardinals and Lions.Two franchises that prove year in and year out that they have no clue what they are doing. I am not saying this guy will be a star (in fact, odds are likely against it), but I don't use the fact that he didn't thrive in those two wastes of franchises as criteria for his being a bust.

Pete
08-31-2008, 07:45 PM
A little on Buster Davis, fyi:

1. Third-round draft pick of Lions last year who saw no PT for Lions...which could either mean a) he's not good enough to play for the Lions or b) Matt Millen does not know how to draft for his own system.

2. A lot of Colts fans wanted this guy last year. Colts fans are not Polian, but I believe the Colts had some interest as well.

3. Small, speedy LB. Go figure.

The head coach in Detroit is a Dungy guy, runs the Dungy D.

JMO

Pete

GoBigBlue88
08-31-2008, 08:11 PM
Yeah, I mean, if we're placing bets here, the very smart money is on Buster Davis not really contributing much. Just thought it was interesting that the Colts saw enough to bring him in, even if he doesn't dress. I wonder if he takes Jordan Senn's spot as the backup to Keiaho?

Pete
08-31-2008, 08:18 PM
Yeah, I mean, if we're placing bets here, the very smart money is on Buster Davis not really contributing much. Just thought it was interesting that the Colts saw enough to bring him in, even if he doesn't dress. I wonder if he takes Jordan Senn's spot as the backup to Keiaho?

JMO, no proof what so ever.

Dungy calls what's his bucket up in Detroit. "hey, what's the skinny on this guy".

"Well, Tony, we just can't spend the time developing him, he's dumb as a rock, but can play special teams. He's worth a gamble for a team that already has talent on D."

Bingo, bango, bongo, they grab him and see what he can do.

Pete

Dam8610
08-31-2008, 08:20 PM
Yeah, I mean, if we're placing bets here, the very smart money is on Buster Davis not really contributing much. Just thought it was interesting that the Colts saw enough to bring him in, even if he doesn't dress. I wonder if he takes Jordan Senn's spot as the backup to Keiaho?

I sure hope not. Unlike Davis, Senn actually has some talent and potential.

Apballin
08-31-2008, 08:22 PM
JMO, no proof what so ever.

Dungy calls what's his bucket up in Detroit. "hey, what's the skinny on this guy".

"Well, Tony, we just can't spend the time developing him, he's dumb as a rock, but can play special teams. He's worth a gamble for a team that already has talent on D."

Bingo, bango, bongo, they grab him and see what he can do.

Pete

He's not dumb, he was the leader of a very good D at FSU. He has been said to have a very high football IQ.

His problem is size not intelligence.

omahacolt
08-31-2008, 08:52 PM
A little on Buster Davis, fyi:

1. Third-round draft pick of Lions last year who saw no PT for Lions...which could either mean a) he's not good enough to play for the Lions or b) Matt Millen does not know how to draft for his own system.

2. A lot of Colts fans wanted this guy last year. Colts fans are not Polian, but I believe the Colts had some interest as well.

3. Small, speedy LB. Go figure.he was drafted by the cardinals big guy

omahacolt
08-31-2008, 08:56 PM
I sure hope not. Unlike Davis, Senn actually has some talent and potential.
didnt you love this guy last year

Pete
08-31-2008, 09:00 PM
He's not dumb, he was the leader of a very good D at FSU. He has been said to have a very high football IQ.

His problem is size not intelligence.

IT WAS A HYPOTHETICAL CONVERSATION, I don't know diddly about the guy, check out WHAT I SAID.

thanks, he was in a Dungy D

Pete

Levante
08-31-2008, 10:45 PM
I like the move.. I really do.

Plug his ass into special teams.

Dam8610
08-31-2008, 11:54 PM
didnt you love this guy last year

You're confusing me with Smitty. I HATED him, wanted the Colts to avoid him at all costs.

smitty46953
09-01-2008, 03:48 AM
Yes, I wanted us to grab him last year...Seen the game against Miami and he was non-stop entire game...Guess time will tell...Davis and Sanders could always join Midget Wrestling together...:cool:

Bender
09-01-2008, 03:59 AM
Haha, Dam has a great record of evaluating talent. Remember when you told us Chad simpson was going to make the team.
Then, roster cuts and, oh my god he didn't make it. What a surprise to only you.

Tylerb929
09-01-2008, 09:53 AM
Haha, Dam has a great record of evaluating talent. Remember when you told us Chad simpson was going to make the team.
Then, roster cuts and, oh my god he didn't make it. What a surprise to only you.

I'd guess Simpson makes the practice squad, when is the practice squad roster released?

Blue Thunder
09-01-2008, 12:20 PM
I like the move. With Hagler out and Wheeler gimpy the Colts needed to shore up depth at the position. I was not impressed with Senn or Guzman this pre-season.

omahacolt
09-01-2008, 12:33 PM
i thought senn looked better than guzman

that was surprising to me

GArnold
09-01-2008, 12:54 PM
You're confusing me with Smitty. I HATED him, wanted the Colts to avoid him at all costs.


Well... once again I am glad your not working in the scouting dept for the Colts. You were sure Hart( wish I had time to go back and quote all those things you said about Hart and his inability to play football) had no shot either. Wrong and wrong.

Dam8610
09-01-2008, 01:42 PM
Well... once again I am glad your not working in the scouting dept for the Colts. You were sure Hart( wish I had time to go back and quote all those things you said about Hart and his inability to play football) had no shot either. Wrong and wrong.

Wow, one player I was wrong about. How's Marlin Jackson working out? Joseph Addai (vs. Laurence Maroney, the guy everyone else wanted)? Jacob Tamme? Marcus Howard? These are all players I wanted the Colts to draft. Even the best talent evaluator is only right about 50% of the time, and I wouldn't profess to even be close to that level, but to say I have no clue what I'm talking about based on one exception to a general rule (that being that a small, slow player will not make it in the NFL), especially when that exception is a 3rd string RB, doesn't show too much in the way of a logical thought process. Buster Davis has already been cut twice and will do nothing more than play STs for the Colts, and probably will get a visit from the Turk on the day Hagler is ready to come back.

BlueStampede
09-01-2008, 02:53 PM
I like the move. With Hagler out and Wheeler gimpy the Colts needed to shore up depth at the position. I was not impressed with Senn or Guzman this pre-season.


Someone that used "shore up" correctly. Don't see that often.

johnvaught
09-01-2008, 03:17 PM
Wow, one player I was wrong about. How's Marlin Jackson working out? Joseph Addai (vs. Laurence Maroney, the guy everyone else wanted)? Jacob Tamme? Marcus Howard? These are all players I wanted the Colts to draft. Even the best talent evaluator is only right about 50% of the time, and I wouldn't profess to even be close to that level, but to say I have no clue what I'm talking about based on one exception to a general rule (that being that a small, slow player will not make it in the NFL), especially when that exception is a 3rd string RB, doesn't show too much in the way of a logical thought process. Buster Davis has already been cut twice and will do nothing more than play STs for the Colts, and probably will get a visit from the Turk on the day Hagler is ready to come back.
It is hard for me to believe that Mickey Andrews had someone "slow" leading the defense at FSU. Rivals.com had him listed as having 4.48 speed which is adequate in my book. As far as being small, that would seem to be a prerequisite for playing for Indy. Plus I understand that he likes to hit people. I kinda like that too! Lets give him a chance.

BlueStampede
09-01-2008, 03:20 PM
It is hard for me to believe that Mickey Andrews had someone "slow" leading the defense at FSU. Rivals.com had him listed as having 4.48 speed which is adequate in my book. As far as being small, that would seem to be a prerequisite for playing for Indy. Plus I understand that he likes to hit people. I kinda like that too! Lets give him a chance.


Adequate? That's blazing for a LBer. Maybe the knock on him was his height. Most teams prefer taller LB's. The Colts don't give a **** if you can run around the field real quick-like.

Dam8610
09-01-2008, 03:51 PM
It is hard for me to believe that Mickey Andrews had someone "slow" leading the defense at FSU. Rivals.com had him listed as having 4.48 speed which is adequate in my book. As far as being small, that would seem to be a prerequisite for playing for Indy. Plus I understand that he likes to hit people. I kinda like that too! Lets give him a chance.

Rivals was off. His combine time was in the 4.7s as I recall, maybe the 4.6s.

BlueStampede
09-01-2008, 05:08 PM
Rivals was off. His combine time was in the 4.7s as I recall, maybe the 4.6s.


Which is pretty average for LBer, I believe.

Dam8610
09-01-2008, 05:27 PM
Which is pretty average for LBer, I believe.

4.7s is below average, and he's small on top of it. There's a reason LBs like him and Ali Highsmith don't make it in the NFL. Despite being instinctive thumpers, they lack the sideline to sideline speed needed to make it in the NFL.

gino
09-01-2008, 05:48 PM
all i know is that the guy got cut from a team that gil gardner is playing for...just sayin

YDFL Commish
09-01-2008, 06:05 PM
all i know is that the guy got cut from a team that gil gardner is playing for...just sayin

It is Matt Millen you know.

Coltsalr
09-01-2008, 06:13 PM
If he wasn't liked by Matt Millen, that's enough for me.

Dam8610
09-01-2008, 07:02 PM
If he wasn't liked by Matt Millen, that's enough for me.

I don't know about you, but I'd take Ernie Sims on this team in a heartbeat.

Apballin
09-01-2008, 09:04 PM
http://www.kffl.com/article/67438/160

1 more time I posted this earlier I don't think any of you read it.

Read and notice the 2 teams they said would be a good fit.

GoBigBlue88
09-01-2008, 09:21 PM
FWIW (which might not be much), Dungy sounded really animated talking about Davis. To paraphrase:

"Buster Davis is a guy we really liked coming out of college. We felt this was a great opportunity to upgrade our LB corps. He's from Detroit and they run a very similar defense, so he should fit in very well here."

"Muir is a guy who Bill (Polian) saw on tape coming out of college and had me take a look, we saw a lot of things we liked. We feel that he's another big body that we can add to shore up the interior line."

Dam8610
09-01-2008, 09:31 PM
http://www.kffl.com/article/67438/160

1 more time I posted this earlier I don't think any of you read it.

Read and notice the 2 teams they said would be a good fit.

People thought he'd be a good fit for a Tampa 2 team because he was small and a hard hitter, unfortunately, he's slow. Think a compact Jeremiah Trotter, and you have Buster Davis. While he was a good MLB for a few years for the Eagles, he would've never fit a Tampa 2 scheme. Instinctive thumpers work in some systems, but this system requires a guy that can cover deep, range to either sideline, and be a solid tackler. Davis has the ability to do one of those things.

AaRrTt o' De fFaArRt
09-01-2008, 10:21 PM
"While the fierce nature that he brings to the field has established who Davis is as a player, it also works against him sometimes. He has a tendency to be over aggressive and occasionally over-run the play."

"The last real negative that Davis has is his work ethic. He takes a lot of his natural ability for granted; he can tend to coast through practice and does not spend as much time with his off-field preparation."

These two things bother me a lot...they are fundamental type things. Will he be penalty prone? Hopefully TD can influence a positive change.

BlueStampede
09-02-2008, 02:28 AM
4.7s is below average, and he's small on top of it. There's a reason LBs like him and Ali Highsmith don't make it in the NFL. Despite being instinctive thumpers, they lack the sideline to sideline speed needed to make it in the NFL.

You put more weight to 40-yard dash times than I do. You were wrong about Hart and his apparent lack of speed.

I don't know the circumstances surrounding the time and don't care. He wasn't wearing pads when he ran it.

BlueStampede
09-02-2008, 02:29 AM
all i know is that the guy got cut from a team that gil gardner is playing for...just sayin


What's that tell you about their talent scouts?

BlueStampede
09-02-2008, 02:33 AM
These two things bother me a lot...they are fundamental type things. Will he be penalty prone? Hopefully TD can influence a positive change.


Preseason's over. 2006 draft is over. 2007 draft is over. Let's not try to over-evaluate some player based on a blurb written a long time ago by someone not on an NFL scouting department. The **** was thrown at the wall. Let's see if it sticks.

GoBigBlue88
09-02-2008, 04:43 AM
Per the Indy Star:

Davis anticipates little "down time'' this week. His objective is to digest as much of the defensive playbook as time allows.
One thing that should ease his transition is he played in a similar defense with the Lions.
"But it's different terminology,'' Davis said. "Nothing scientific, and at the end of the day it's still football. I've just got to learn the playbook and get out there and play football on Wednesday.''


It's very likely that he's special teams only at the beginning, if he even dresses. But nice to hear that the transition shouldn't be too rough.

Deanocolts
09-02-2008, 07:05 AM
I personally like this pickup and believe that this guy could be a very good player for the Colts.

I was hoping that we would get him in the previous years draft.

He may "fit" with the Colts like no other team. I dont believe the time at the Lions are an indicator of whether he will be successful in Indy or not.

The Lions defense has one player of talent, namely Sims.

I believe that you could put any of our current LBs on that team and they would do poorly.

In addition, I saw this kid play a few games in College and he literally owned the field.

As far as him being slow, he was timed at 4.48 forty, which seems fast enough to me.

Some notes on the guy.....

http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/575540.html

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/prospects/buster_davis.html

http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=476&Sport=1

This guy may not only play ST but possibly even start for the Colts this year or next.

omahacolt
09-02-2008, 12:52 PM
i remember this kid at the senior bowl

he is definitely small but he hits like a mack truck. he stood out


hopefully he can kill on st

Apballin
09-02-2008, 04:58 PM
I personally like this pickup and believe that this guy could be a very good player for the Colts.

I was hoping that we would get him in the previous years draft.

He may "fit" with the Colts like no other team. I dont believe the time at the Lions are an indicator of whether he will be successful in Indy or not.

The Lions defense has one player of talent, namely Sims.

I believe that you could put any of our current LBs on that team and they would do poorly.

In addition, I saw this kid play a few games in College and he literally owned the field.

As far as him being slow, he was timed at 4.48 forty, which seems fast enough to me.

Some notes on the guy.....

http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/575540.html

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/prospects/buster_davis.html

http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=476&Sport=1

This guy may not only play ST but possibly even start for the Colts this year or next.

I agree possibly be Brackett's replacement?

Apballin
09-02-2008, 10:58 PM
http://floridastate.rivals.com/video.asp?section=football&pkey=326&vidtype=college&vidid=22804

Check out this guy in college!