That Peyton Manning guy SUCKS

[Rob L]

First off, I just want to say he was the best QB this weekend and the only QB of the 8 to not throw an INT and the only guy on a losing team who didn't suck balls but do you think anyone cares? Of course not since he gets the most criticism. Chad, the guy allllll these morons said should have been MVP was HORRIBLE but he gets excuses for his 4 INTs. Peyton does well and he is a choker. I am sick of this ****. Anyway....


Peyton continually gets blamed for the losses so I decided to input his numbers for his QB rating in the last 3 one and done losses:

80/128= 62.5% completion
1002 passing yards= 334ypg, 7.8 yards per attempt
5 TD passes
2 INTs that anyone who saw the game last year knows were the direct fault of Wayne and Keith not catching the ball and one took away a TD pass and the other was a good sized gain.

For a rating of......93.3. Yes, NINETY-THREE POINT THREE

For reference, a 93.3 rating whipped out over a playoff career would get you to be in the top 5 passers of all time in the playoffs and a 93.3 rating for a career in the regular season would put you just shy under Warner who is 3rd place all time.

Take the two INTs away and make them merely incompletions and his rating would be 99.8 which would put him 2nd all time in the playoffs. So you have a QB who has played that type of ball for 3 games and they lose.

Go ask ANY COACH if they would like a QB to have a 93.3 rating in the playoffs with all 3 games being over 90 and he will say yes in a New York minute.

I do not think ANY QB in NFL history has had a 93.3 avg rating over 3 games in the playoffs and LOST all 3. Ridiculous.

So yeah, anyone who wishes to try and blame Manning for these games can suck it and get a clue when it comes to football. He did his job in all 3 and other parts of the team screwed it up each time.

Oh and here are some other gems from this 3 game jig:

164 yards total rushing by the running backs which yielded an AMAZING SB run worthy 3.2 yards per carry and in two of those games (pitts, this year's game) it was 2.9 ypc. Yep, that run game has been beastly and it is shocking why this team has come up short in each game. The Chargers Saturday ran for more yards than Indy's backs have in these 3 games...

The D has given up an avg of 354 yards per game with only the pitts game just a shy under 300 at 295. That again is championship worthy.

So yeah, how about people lay off Peyton and actually appreciate what he has done for this team and franchise. In each loss he has been screwed over by something (horrible blocking and run game vs pitts. horrible D and receivers turning it over in 07. no run game, mediocre blocking and inconsistent pass defense with bad run defense Saturday) and does his part.

I swear he has some bad karma for something and this is why he keeps getting screwed over by this stuff. 3 times he outplays the other QB and 3 times he has to be on the losing end.

That final punt Saturday which 98% of the time goes into the end zone but puts Indy at the 1 and the lack of a run game to pick up 10 yards and Robinson missing such a simple block was a microcosm of Manning's playoff luck. Any other QB in there and all these things work out but not for Peyts.

Why he continues to get screwed over is beyond me.

[Bipolar The Titan]

Manning has had GOLDEN luck all season. Whatever. :rolleyes:

[BlueStampede]

Manning has had GOLDEN luck all season. Whatever. :rolleyes:


It was luck and not skill?

[Bipolar The Titan]

Not the same. Manning has boat loads of skill. Rob here is groaning and mumbling about bad luck. Manning and the Colts as a whole have enjoyed PLENTY of luck of the course of the season.

Don't try to trip me up. I always give Manning his due. Regardless of how well Manning did he didn't live up to the MVP award.

[jilla]

Doesn't matter. When needed he could not make one first down to ice the game. :rolleyes: All else became waste with that one sack. Had he at least not taken the sack, probably ..................

FYI -

In the Colts' last eight possessions, they managed just eight first downs. That is one of the big reasons we lost!

[Bipolar The Titan]

That final punt Saturday which 98% of the time goes into the end zone but puts Indy at the 1
There isn't a football fan in America who doesn't want to add San Diego's punter to their team's roster. That guy had 6 simply AMAZING punts... It's not fair to take away from a "horse trailer" type performance like that calling it bad luck. I don't know the nuances of punting but I imagine his punts went exactly the way he envisioned.

[BlueStampede]

Yeah, nice stats, FedEx player of the week, and regular season MVP's mean very little to me. One and done. That's the story.

[BlueStampede]

There isn't a football fan in America who doesn't want to add San Diego's punter to their team's roster. That guy had 6 simply AMAZING punts... It's not fair to take away from a "horse trailer" type performance like that calling it bad luck. I don't know the nuances of punting but I imagine his punts went exactly the way he envisioned.


I can't imagine a punter having a better game. He truly made a huge difference in the outcome of that game. His punts not only gave us poor field position, but helped set his offense up with good field position when our offense wasn't able to move the ball. A game changer.

[Sarcasm]

I know the punter and Sproles split the "Horse trailer" award, but I wonder if this game would have been the Super Bowl if the media would have had had the stones to name the punter MVP, or co-MVP. Sproles did some great things, but most backs would have had 100 yards on our D while not many return kicks on top of it, but in my opinion the punter was the MVP for the Chargers...

[HoosierInFL]

Its not bad luck but otherwise you're right. Manning has played well in these losses. Much like Dan Marino, who never got the ring but everyone knows was a great QB, the Colts have just failed to put a team around him that is championship worthy. They just are not.
The offense with the triplets (i.e. Edge and a younger Marvin) was worthy, but the defense was bad. The defense has gotten better but is wildly inconsistent, but in the meantime we have lost Edgerrin, Marvin has gotten older and dinged up, and the O line has lost alot of guys to free agency and retirement and has not been replenished with guys who are good enough. I don't want to hear another word about the genius of Howard Mudd turning scrubs into probowlers. That is bull****. He had talent in the past and he got them performing well as a unit. The last 2 years this line has been anywhere from terrible to below average. These small quick linemen that we draft can't even block the stretch play, the main type of play we drafted them for - otherwise what's their purpose?

[VaBthang4]

Said something loaded...

~chuckle~ You really dont get it do you?

You can throw an NFL Record & Fact Book at the World, chocked full of Manning's accomplishments and none of it outweighs:

12 possessions = 1 touchdown pass against an 8-8 team that ranked 31st in passing Defense.

If he gets the glory for the wins (A League MVP Trophy) then he damn well takes the hit for the losses.

There is no better Quarterback in the league...probably in the history of the game...but none of that makes him teflon. You need to stop drinking the Kool-Aid, dog.

[Ban Me]

Regardless of this hubbub, and TRUELY being outplayed by SD, all we needed was a lousy 1st on 3rd and 2. Call a TO, come up with a play that gives you a chance. trying to catch teams off guard RARELY works. No need to hurry up there. Take the TO, talk about it, get the first.

[BlueStampede]

Its not bad luck but otherwise you're right. Manning has played well in these losses. Much like Dan Marino, who never got the ring but everyone knows was a great QB, the Colts have just failed to put a team around him that is championship worthy. They just are not.
The offense with the triplets (i.e. Edge and a younger Marvin) was worthy, but the defense was bad. The defense has gotten better but is wildly inconsistent, but in the meantime we have lost Edgerrin, Marvin has gotten older and dinged up, and the O line has lost alot of guys to free agency and retirement and has not been replenished with guys who are good enough. I don't want to hear another word about the genius of Howard Mudd turning scrubs into probowlers. That is bull****. He had talent in the past and he got them performing well as a unit. The last 2 years this line has been anywhere from terrible to below average. These small quick linemen that we draft can't even block the stretch play, the main type of play we drafted them for - otherwise what's their purpose?

Inexperienced O-line.

[Dewy5]

Inexperienced O-line.

With the exception of Jeff Saturday it's not even a NFL caliber O-line.

[Sarcasm]

Regardless of this hubbub, and TRUELY being outplayed by SD, all we needed was a lousy 1st on 3rd and 2. Call a TO, come up with a play that gives you a chance. trying to catch teams off guard RARELY works. No need to hurry up there. Take the TO, talk about it, get the first.
San Diego just took a time out before the play, so they did have time to discuss it, but we could have used one of ours, since a conversion means 3 kneel downs....

[AAF]

~chuckle~ You really dont get it do you?

You can throw an NFL Record & Fact Book at the World, chocked full of Manning's accomplishments and none of it outweighs:

12 possessions = 1 touchdown pass against an 8-8 team that ranked 31st in passing Defense.

If he gets the glory for the wins (A League MVP Trophy) then he damn well takes the hit for the losses.

There is no better Quarterback in the league...probably in the history of the game...but none of that makes him teflon. You need to stop drinking the Kool-Aid, dog.


it doesn't matter what the chargers passing defense was ranked. they could have been ranked 300th, but when you are constantly starting backed up against your own goal line with NO threat of a running game, san diego can put everyone back in coverage. But I'm sure you'll blame Manning for the fact that the running game has been hideous, or that the SD punter was constantly backing the colts up to their own goal line.

[Ban Me]

San Diego just took a time out before the play, so they did have time to discuss it, but we could have used one of ours, since a conversion means 3 kneel downs....
Ha ha, you're right. for some reason, I was thinking they were trying to hurry-maybe the play clock was running down. Anyway. Piss Poor.

I still cannot believe (also) the first drive of second half. Addai EASILY should have gotten EIGHT yards, and a first. I know he thought he had it, but jeez, MAKE SURE. Then we screw up third and fourth down. We could have USED those points.

Cause here's the deal. Let's say SD is down SIX, we screw up 3rd down, Manning gets sacked. We go to 2 minute warning. We TAKE a SAFETY. Still up 4, we get a free kick from the 20, instead of kicking from the back of the end zone. SD STILL needs a TD to win.

[DragonTails]

Addai lost the game for us. He ran the wrong pattern on that 3rd and 2. That's why Manning had to eat the ball.

He was gonna hit Addai right where he was standing, but he took off and ran a slant.

The db was 7 yards offs - throw to Addia at the los and he pickup the 1st down.

I had no prob with the play call. It just was executed properly.

[Ban Me]

Addai lost the game for us. He ran the wrong pattern on that 3rd and 2. That's why Manning had to eat the ball.

He was gonna hit Addai right where he was standing, but he took off and ran a slant.

The db was 7 yards offs - throw to Addia at the los and he pickup the 1st down.

I had no prob with the play call. It just was executed properly.Was Addai wide? Who was in the slot? I thought PM looked to the slot, and the guy was smothered at the line. Anyway, Addai SHOULD HAVE made the first down on that first drive of the 2nd half. Could have been a BULL**** SPOT TOO, I didn't look at the replay.

[BlackBobMakesMeWet]

Regardless of how well Manning did he didn't live up to the MVP award.

Just what the hell else was he supposed to do BiP? I usually respect your opinion, but Jesus, saying he didn't live up to the MVP award is just dumb.

[jilla]

Just what the hell else was he supposed to do ?

He was supposed to have blocked the defenders, throw the ball & catch it and run 99 yards for TD - Repeat that 9 times and still BiP might say "He doesn't deserve MVP, since he didn't play defense or ST" :rolleyes:

[Sarcasm]

Was Addai wide? Who was in the slot? I thought PM looked to the slot, and the guy was smothered at the line. Anyway, Addai SHOULD HAVE made the first down on that first drive of the 2nd half. Could have been a BULL**** SPOT TOO, I didn't look at the replay.

I saw this review of the 3&2 on colts.com. Pretty interesting...

http://forum.colts.com/showthread.php?t=38803

[Dam8610]

Addai lost the game for us. He ran the wrong pattern on that 3rd and 2. That's why Manning had to eat the ball.

He was gonna hit Addai right where he was standing, but he took off and ran a slant.

The db was 7 yards offs - throw to Addia at the los and he pickup the 1st down.

I had no prob with the play call. It just was executed properly.

He was still wide open on the slant.

[Bipolar The Titan]

~chuckle~ You really dont get it do you?

12 possessions = 1 touchdown pass against an 8-8 team that ranked 31st in passing Defense.

oh yeah, and that one td pass came when the chargers were still substituting....:D

[Bipolar The Titan]

He was supposed to have blocked the defenders, throw the ball & catch it and run 99 yards for TD - Repeat that 9 times and still BiP might say "He doesn't deserve MVP, since he didn't play defense or ST" :rolleyes:
I didn't say he didn't deserve that award. (did I :confused:) Going into the post season he was a legit mvp. I am only saying that he didn't live up to the award.

It would have been refreshing to see Ed Reed get it though. The Ravens live and die on defense and Reed is a game changer. He put on a MVP performance against the 'fins.

[Ban Me]

The one saving grace is that the closests competitors for the award all flopped as well. Pennington's 4 picks is a laugher to all the douchebags who wanted that game manager to win.

[omahacolt]

hey rob


stop crying.

[Levante]

Not the same. Manning has boat loads of skill. Rob here is groaning and mumbling about bad luck. Manning and the Colts as a whole have enjoyed PLENTY of luck of the course of the season.

Don't try to trip me up. I always give Manning his due. Regardless of how well Manning did he didn't live up to the MVP award.

Who would of lived up to it?

Warner? LOL... did you see that guy play against a good team?

Peterson? The guy is really good..... but King Fumbleitis cost his team some games.

Brees? What were the Saints... 8-8 again?