Post Your Mock Draft

[Chromeburn]

We are two weeks out and it is nice to talk about something other than the pandemic. Do a mock, or just post who you want to draft.

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34 Jordan Love, QB
Utah State

44 Jeremy Chinn, S
Southern Illinois

75 Chase Claypool, WR
Notre Dame

122 Michael Pittman Jr., WR
USC

160 Harrison Bryant, TE
Florida Atlantic

193 Justin Herron, OT
Wake Forest

197 Trey Adams, OT
Washington

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

I passed on Jordan Love at 34 and was surprised that he was still available at 44.


34 Neville Gallimore, DL
Oklahoma

44 Jordan Love, QB
Utah State

75 Chase Claypool, WR
Notre Dame

122 Ezra Cleveland, OT
Boise State

160 Josiah Scott, CB
Michigan State

193 Binjimin Victor, WR
Ohio State

197 Lavert Hill, CB
Michigan

[smitty46953]

I like the way our Defense is looking so went Offense with 1st 4 picks :cool:

34 Laviska Shenault Jr. WR Colorado

44 Jalen Reagor WR TCU

75 Jalen Hurts QB Oklahoma

122 Thaddeus Moss TE LSU

160 Anfernee Jennings EDGE Alabama

193 Tanner Muse S Clemson

197 Michael Divinity Jr. LB LSU

[Ironshaft]

34. Laviska Shenault, Jr., WR, Colorado
44. Ezra Cleveland, OT, Boise State
75. Jordan Love, QB, Utah State
122. K.J. Hill, WR, OSU
160. Harrison Bryant, TE, Florida Atlantic
193. Tanner Muse, S, Clemson
197. Daulton Keene, TE, Virginia Tech

QB of the future, 2x big bodies wide receivers, 2x tight ends depth, a potential left OT replacement for Castonzo / right OG starter as s rookie and safety depth.

I had no intention of going slmost all offense but it is what th ed board brought.

No way that Love drops that far but a fun exercise.

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[apballin]

34. A.J. Epenesa

44. Ross Blacklock

75. Michael Pittman Jr.

122. Thaddeus Moss

Went BPA, liked the thought of a D-line that’s deep and didn’t wanna reach on WR, can’t see Pittman being there this late in real life though. 4 rounds is all in good for I’d just be drafting names after that. Seems like there could be good value at that first pick interested to see if Ballard reaches for WR or waits until the next 2nd round pick

[Luck4Reich]

34. Neville Gallimore DL. Oklahoma

Our defensive line could be downright nasty adding another guy like Gallimore to the rotation.

44. Jordon Love QB Utah St.

If he is still available this late I think you take him.

75. Chase Claypool WR. Notre Dame

Big target for Rivers has size and explosiveness. He is a very good run blocker as well.


122. Thaddeus Moss. TE. LSU

Missed a lot of playing time do to transfer and foot surgery. Still played in 2019 on a stacked team. He could be special and a good pick this late.

160. Michael Owenu IOL Michigan

Big and powerful at 6'3 350lbs. He plays with a mean streak.very good when he gets to second level handling linebackers. Mobility and foot speed are questionable.

193. Kendall Coleman Edge Syracuse

A smart and crafty Linebacker that uses good technique.

197. Tanner Muse S Clemson

A solid pick if he is still available

[rm1369]

34 Kristian Fulton, CB
LSU

44 Jordan Love, QB
Utah State

75 Michael Pittman Jr., WR
USC

122 K.J. Hill, WR
Ohio State

160 Kyle Murphy, IOL
Rhode Island

193 Jonathan Garvin, EDGE
Miami

197 Justin Herron, OT
Wake Forest


Don’t like coming out of 2nd round without addressing the need at WR, but couldn’t pass on Fulton at 34 or Love at 44.

[Chromeburn]

Some non-QB drafts

It might be a little high for an OT considering he will sit on the bench likely. But hard to poass up Jones. Two WR's that can YAC it up and score. Elliot is one of the most underrated DT's in the draft. And Stone has fantastic instrincts and will be deadly in a dime package. Bryant has a lot of potential as a TE and was great at the combine.

34osh Jones, OT
Houston

44 Brandon Aiyuk, WR
Arizona State

75 Jordan Elliott, IDL
Missouri

122 Geno Stone, S
Iowa

160 Harrison Bryant, TE
Florida Atlantic

193 Jauan Jennings, WR
Tennessee

197 Kendall Coleman, EDGE
Syracuse


A little different here. Two versatile WR's that are pure offensive weapons and can line up at just about any position: X, slot, RB, even wildcat QB. They should give Reich and Sirianni a lot of flexibility in play-calling and design. Diggs is kinda a younger version of Desirre and should fit right in this defense. Robinson is a refined all around DE. Driscoll is one of the most athletic tackles in the draft and is a great developmental candidate. Brooks is a crazy hitting all over the place safety but isn't the best in coverage, but he will blow plays up in the run and blitz. Taumoepeau is a good route running TE and a decent blocker.

34 Laviska Shenault Jr., WR
Colorado

44 Trevon Diggs, CB
Alabama

75 Antonio Gibson, RB
Memphis

122 Alton Robinson, EDGE
Syracuse

160 Jack Driscoll, OT
Auburn

193 Antoine Brooks Jr., S
Maryland

197 Charlie Taumoepeau, TE
Portland State

[Dam8610]

Your score is: 41833 (GRADE: A)

Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 8 (HOU): Patrick Queen, ILB, LSU (A)
Round 2 Pick 12: Jacob Eason, QB, Washington (A)
Round 3 Pick 5 (CAR): Denzel Mims, WR, Baylor (A+)
Round 3 Pick 11: Cole Kmet, TE, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 3 Pick 26 (HOU): Clyde Edwards-Helaire, RB, LSU (A+)
Round 4 Pick 16: Jack Driscoll, OT, Auburn (A+)
Round 5 Pick 14: Larrell Murchison, DT, NC State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 17 (CHI): Reggie Robinson II, CB, Tulsa (A+)
Round 6 Pick 18: Evan Weaver, ILB/OLB, California (A+)
Round 7 Pick 12 (CHI): Rodrigo Blankenship, K, Georgia (A+)
Round 7 Pick 26 (HOU): Isaiah Coulter, WR, Rhode Island (A+)
Round 7 Pick 34 (HOU): Benito Jones, DT, Ole Miss (A+)
Round 7 Pick 36 (HOU): Levonta Taylor, CB/FS, Florida St. (A+)

Patrick Queen and Clyde Edwards-Helaire are two of my favorite players in this class, and both fell to points at which they were clearly BPA.

[apballin]

Don’t know how it went for y’all but seems like that first pick seems to have a lot of value at position other than WR gonna be a tough choice there if it plays out like that

[Chromeburn]

Don’t know how it went for y’all but seems like that first pick seems to have a lot of value at position other than WR gonna be a tough choice there if it plays out like that

There seem to be two thoughts on the mocks. The first is that there are so many receivers that it will drive the quality down and there will be very good receivers available in the 2nd.

Second train of thought is many receivers and OTs will be taken in the first (5 or 6) and it will drive the other talent down the board.

[Puck]

34 D'Andre Swift RB Georgia

44 Tee Higgins WR Clemson

75. Cole Kmet, TE Notre Dame

122 Ben Bartch, OT St. John

160 Devin Duvernay, WR Texas

Just did it quick and Love was available in the 4th also Still passed

[Racehorse]

There seem to be two thoughts on the mocks. The first is that there are so many receivers that it will drive the quality down and there will be very good receivers available in the 2nd.

Second train of thought is many receivers and OTs will be taken in the first (5 or 6) and it will drive the other talent down the board.

If you take the likely picks by grade, you will get a much different order than what actually happens. This is why I see us getting a quality WR or QB or OL, or CB at 34 and at 44. Some teams draft BPA and others draft by need. Also, one GM has a totally different order than others. I would guess there are probably 25+ different lists on who the top 10 players are. When you get to the top 40 players, we have so much more variation. I would love to do a mock, but it seems there are such variations within the mocks, and I do not follow college football as much as some of you all do. My son follows both college and NFL. He would do a much better mock that I could.

[smitty46953]

Traded back a lot, loaded up the WR room and got who I think will be the best RB in draft.

Your score is: 43175 (GRADE: A)

Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 6 (CAR): Neville Gallimore, DT, Oklahoma (A+)
Round 2 Pick 19 (DAL): Patrick Queen, ILB, LSU (A+)
Round 3 Pick 5 (CAR): D'Andre Swift, RB, Georgia (A+)
Round 3 Pick 22 (BUF): Chase Claypool, WR/TE, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 3 Pick 26 (HOU): Jalen Hurts, QB, Oklahoma (A)
Round 4 Pick 3 (DET): K.J. Hill, WR, Ohio St. (A+)
Round 4 Pick 5 (HOU): Damien Lewis, OG, LSU (A+)
Round 4 Pick 15 (L.V.): Hunter Bryant, TE, Washington (A+)
Round 4 Pick 22 (BUF): Brandon Jones, FS/SS, Texas (A+)
Round 4 Pick 26 (MINN): Alex Taylor, OT, SC State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 9 (BUF): Gabriel Davis, WR, UCF (A+)
Round 5 Pick 15 (T.B.): Jauan Jennings, WR, Tennessee (A+)
Round 5 Pick 21 (MINN): A.J. Green, CB, Oklahoma St. (A+)
Round 5 Pick 22 (PHI): Michael Divinity Jr., ILB/OLB, LSU (A+)
Round 6 Pick 11 (PHI): Levonta Taylor, CB/FS, Florida St. (A-)
Round 6 Pick 14: Josh Metellus, FS/SS, Michigan (A+)
Round 6 Pick 15 (T.B.): Quintez Cephus, WR, Wisconsin (A+)
Round 6 Pick 18: Kendall Coleman, DE/OLB, Syracuse (A+)

:cool:

[IndyNorm]

That was fun. Here are my picks:

34 J.K. Dobbins, RB Ohio State

44 Tee Higgins, WR Clemson

75 Jacob Eason, QB Washington

122 Devin Asiasi, TE UCLA

160 Julian Blackmon, S Utah

193 Tyler Clark, IDL Georgia

197 Tyrie Cleveland, WR Florida

I realize that we don't need a RB and the likelihood of us taking one that early is slim to none, but Dobbins stood out so much I couldn't help but draft him.

[IndyNorm]

34 D'Andre Swift RB Georgia

44 Tee Higgins WR Clemson

75. Cole Kmet, TE Notre Dame

122 Ben Bartch, OT St. John

160 Devin Duvernay, WR Texas

Just did it quick and Love was available in the 4th also Still passed

Interesting on Love. I went with the normal speed and he ended up going in the 1st to the Cheats, which made me cringe.

[Puck]

34


Laviska Shenault Jr.

, WR
Colorado

44


Denzel Mims

, WR
Baylor

75


Ben Bartch

, OT
St. John

122


Anthony McFarland

, RB
Maryland

160


Lamar Jackson

, CB
Nebraska

193


Jalen Elliott

, S
Notre Dame

197


Charlie Taumoepeau

, TE
Portland State

[YDFL Commish]

Here's my best so far:

Your score is: 44095 (GRADE: A)

Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 12:*Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon (A+)
Round 2 Pick 19 (DAL):*Laviska Shenault Jr., WR, Colorado (A+)
Round 3 Pick 18 (DAL):*Jordan Elliott, DT, Missouri (A+)
Round 3 Pick 20 (LAR):*Jeremy Chinn, FS/SS, S. Illinois (A+)
Round 3 Pick 21 (DET):*Alex Taylor, OT, SC State (A)
Round 3 Pick 40 (LAR):*Matt Hennessy, C/OG, Temple (A+)
Round 4 Pick 3 (DET):*Anthony McFarland Jr., RB, Maryland (A+)
Round 4 Pick 16:*Kenny Willekes, DE, Michigan St. (A+)
Round 4 Pick 23 (BALT):*Damien Lewis, OG, LSU (A+)
Round 4 Pick 28 (BALT):*Dane Jackson, CB, Pittsburgh (A+)
Round 5 Pick 5 (LAC):*Jacob Breeland, TE, Oregon (A+)
Round 5 Pick 11 (BALT):*Cam Brown, OLB, Penn St. (A+)
Round 6 Pick 7 (LAC):*Quintez Cephus, WR, Wisconsin (A+)
Round 6 Pick 18:*Trevis Gipson, DE, Tulsa (A+)
Round 6 Pick 20 (LAR):*Rodrigo Blankenship, K, Georgia (A+)

Your Future Picks:
2021 Round 1 Pick
2022 Round 1 Pick

[Chromeburn]

Traded back a lot, loaded up the WR room and got who I think will be the best RB in draft.

Your score is: 43175 (GRADE: A)

Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 6 (CAR): Neville Gallimore, DT, Oklahoma (A+)
Round 2 Pick 19 (DAL): Patrick Queen, ILB, LSU (A+)
Round 3 Pick 5 (CAR): D'Andre Swift, RB, Georgia (A+)
Round 3 Pick 22 (BUF): Chase Claypool, WR/TE, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 3 Pick 26 (HOU): Jalen Hurts, QB, Oklahoma (A)
Round 4 Pick 3 (DET): K.J. Hill, WR, Ohio St. (A+)
Round 4 Pick 5 (HOU): Damien Lewis, OG, LSU (A+)
Round 4 Pick 15 (L.V.): Hunter Bryant, TE, Washington (A+)
Round 4 Pick 22 (BUF): Brandon Jones, FS/SS, Texas (A+)
Round 4 Pick 26 (MINN): Alex Taylor, OT, SC State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 9 (BUF): Gabriel Davis, WR, UCF (A+)
Round 5 Pick 15 (T.B.): Jauan Jennings, WR, Tennessee (A+)
Round 5 Pick 21 (MINN): A.J. Green, CB, Oklahoma St. (A+)
Round 5 Pick 22 (PHI): Michael Divinity Jr., ILB/OLB, LSU (A+)
Round 6 Pick 11 (PHI): Levonta Taylor, CB/FS, Florida St. (A-)
Round 6 Pick 14: Josh Metellus, FS/SS, Michigan (A+)
Round 6 Pick 15 (T.B.): Quintez Cephus, WR, Wisconsin (A+)
Round 6 Pick 18: Kendall Coleman, DE/OLB, Syracuse (A+)

:cool:

Seems realistic

[YDFL Commish]

Seems realistic

So, is Claypool a WR or a TE? Could he be a TE?

[Chromeburn]

So, is Claypool a WR or a TE? Could he be a TE?

Won't really know for sure till you get him in camp. He could be a catching TE, he is a decent and willing blocker on the outside. I don't know if he could take on a DE though. He might be just a hybrid type player. He has a better catch radius than a lot of TE's I see and this is a weak TE class. At best he can be an X receiver and a stretch receiving TE. He would be a huge mismatch on a LB not named Isiah Simmon or one of these new big nickles. If y ou take him, I would take another WR though as well.

[Dam8610]

So, is Claypool a WR or a TE? Could he be a TE?

If I drafted him, that would be my plan.

[smitty46953]

So, is Claypool a WR or a TE? Could he be a TE?

Think he could flex either way, could be valuable in that role. A matchup nightmare for LB's trying to cover him with his speed. Had a fantastic combine. Not to mention he is a Golden Domer !!! :cool:

[Dam8610]

Your score is: 43463 (GRADE: A)

Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 9 (CLE): Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon (A+)
Round 2 Pick 27 (SEA): Patrick Queen, ILB, LSU (A+)
Round 3 Pick 3 (DET): Michael Pittman Jr., WR, USC (A)
Round 3 Pick 10 (CLE): Hunter Bryant, TE, Washington (A+)
Round 3 Pick 11: Clyde Edwards-Helaire, RB, LSU (A)
Round 3 Pick 31 (DEN): Chase Claypool, WR/TE, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 3 Pick 35 (NYG): Khalid Kareem, DE/OLB, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 4 Pick 7 (CAR): Jack Driscoll, OT, Auburn (A+)
Round 4 Pick 16: Amik Robertson, CB, Louisiana Tech (A+)
Round 5 Pick 8 (MIA): Rashard Lawrence, DT, LSU (A+)
Round 5 Pick 18 (DAL): Brian Cole II, FS/SS, Miss. State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 33 (DAL): A.J. Green, CB, Oklahoma St. (A+)
Round 6 Pick 18: John Hightower, WR, Boise St. (A+)
Round 7 Pick 13 (MIA): Antoine Brooks Jr., FS/SS, Maryland (A+)
Round 7 Pick 17 (DAL): Rodrigo Blankenship, K, Georgia (A+)
Round 7 Pick 32 (MIA): Shyheim Carter, FS, Alabama (A+)

There is no way the actual draft turns out that well. Herbert's play style fits today's NFL and I can see him developing into a franchise QB if he has time to sit and learn. Getting a LB who will likely go top 25 in the actual draft at 57 is a steal. I watched film on Michael Pittman, he looks like a WR that would've gone late in round 1 or early in round 2 in recent drafts, and I love his ability to highpoint the ball. If Frank Reich had Hunter Bryant, Clyde Edwards-Helaire, and Chase Claypool at his disposal, he would be salivating at the mismatch opportunities available to him on a weekly basis. Khalid Kareem fits what the Colts want in players off the field and DL on the field to a T. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he actually ends up a Colt. Driscoll is a developmental LT who could provide value as a backup or potentially start at RT and allow Braden Smith to kick inside to RG. Amik Robertson is a very similar player to Kenny Moore and would offer a similar skillset. Rashard Lawrence is considered by many to be a top 50-100 player in this class and flashes some pass rush ability. Getting him in round 5 is a steal. Everyone else was chosen mostly for their special teams ability, developmental traits, or both.

[apballin]

The more research I do, thanks to the free time I’d take Pittman or peoples-jones over shenault or Higgins they seem like better catch in traffic guys with big bodies that aren’t afraid of contact or only wanna run deep routes like the other 2

[Dewey 5]

I don't think there is any chance that Herbert or Love last until the 2nd round. None.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

QB's were being taken too high for me in this mock draft - Hurts and Fromm were drafted way too early. I would have picked a DL with the first pick but Gallimore and others were already gone so I went BPA of the non-WR's. Flipped Pick 34 for Picks 55 and 60.


Your score is: 44745 (GRADE: A+)

Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 12: Grant Delpit, FS/SS, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 23 (BALT): Brandon Aiyuk, WR, Arizona St. (A+)
Round 2 Pick 28 (BALT): Denzel Mims, WR, Baylor (A+)
Round 3 Pick 21 (DET): Hunter Bryant, TE, Washington (A+)
Round 3 Pick 28 (BALT): Clyde Edwards-Helaire, RB, LSU (A+)
Round 3 Pick 42 (BALT): Jack Driscoll, OT, Auburn (A+)
Round 4 Pick 3 (DET): Jeremy Chinn, FS/SS, S. Illinois (A+)
Round 4 Pick 15 (L.V.): Davon Hamilton, DT, Ohio St. (A+)
Round 4 Pick 16: Harrison Bryant, TE, FAU (A+)
Round 5 Pick 13 (L.V.): K.J. Hill, WR, Ohio St. (A+)
Round 5 Pick 16 (WASH): Myles Bryant, CB, Washington (A+)
Round 6 Pick 14: Colby Parkinson, TE, Stanford (A+)
Round 6 Pick 18: Cordel Iwuagwu, OG, TCU (A+)
Round 7 Pick 2 (WASH): James Morgan, QB, FIU (A+)

Your Future Picks:
2021 Round 1 Pick
2022 Round 1 Pick

[smitty46953]

QB's were being taken too high for me in this mock draft - Hurts and Fromm were drafted way too early. I would have picked a DL with the first pick but Gallimore and others were already gone so I went BPA of the non-WR's. Flipped Pick 34 for Picks 55 and 60.


Your score is: 44745 (GRADE: A+)

Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 12: Grant Delpit, FS/SS, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 23 (BALT): Brandon Aiyuk, WR, Arizona St. (A+)
Round 2 Pick 28 (BALT): Denzel Mims, WR, Baylor (A+)
Round 3 Pick 21 (DET): Hunter Bryant, TE, Washington (A+)
Round 3 Pick 28 (BALT): Clyde Edwards-Helaire, RB, LSU (A+)
Round 3 Pick 42 (BALT): Jack Driscoll, OT, Auburn (A+)
Round 4 Pick 3 (DET): Jeremy Chinn, FS/SS, S. Illinois (A+)
Round 4 Pick 15 (L.V.): Davon Hamilton, DT, Ohio St. (A+)
Round 4 Pick 16: Harrison Bryant, TE, FAU (A+)
Round 5 Pick 13 (L.V.): K.J. Hill, WR, Ohio St. (A+)
Round 5 Pick 16 (WASH): Myles Bryant, CB, Washington (A+)
Round 6 Pick 14: Colby Parkinson, TE, Stanford (A+)
Round 6 Pick 18: Cordel Iwuagwu, OG, TCU (A+)
Round 7 Pick 2 (WASH): James Morgan, QB, FIU (A+)

Your Future Picks:
2021 Round 1 Pick
2022 Round 1 Pick

To bad this won't come true, Helaire late 3rd is great along with 3 WR's . . . Send it in :eek:

[Crush22]

A lot of love for Love, but I'd take Eason.
Bigger body and less mistakes. Very trainable.

[Puck]

A lot of love for Love, but I'd take Eason.
Bigger body and less mistakes. Very trainable.

I think there is less than a 5% chance we draft a QB at all. Already have Rivers, JB isn't going anywhere, and they have Kelly as the 3rd. Other than getting rid of Kelly to replace him with someone that probably doesn't have his talent.

Then you have to figure out what you are going to do with your 3rd string QB. Carry 3 or risk hiding him on the practice squad.

I think there is less than a 1% chance they get rid of JB. He is on the last yr of his contract, costs to much for anyone to want to trade for him and he can win a game or two if Rivers gets dinged up.

[Chromeburn]

I think there is less than a 5% chance we draft a QB at all. Already have Rivers, JB isn't going anywhere, and they have Kelly as the 3rd. Other than getting rid of Kelly to replace him with someone that probably doesn't have his talent.

Then you have to figure out what you are going to do with your 3rd string QB. Carry 3 or risk hiding him on the practice squad.

I think there is less than a 1% chance they get rid of JB. He is on the last yr of his contract, costs to much for anyone to want to trade for him and he can win a game or two if Rivers gets dinged up.

They will keep quiet if they like a guy. But I think they have patched the hole with Rivers till a rookie comes along they like. I don’t think he is in this draft either. They likely would have stayed at 13 if they did.

[Dam8610]

I think there is less than a 5% chance we draft a QB at all. Already have Rivers, JB isn't going anywhere, and they have Kelly as the 3rd. Other than getting rid of Kelly to replace him with someone that probably doesn't have his talent.

Then you have to figure out what you are going to do with your 3rd string QB. Carry 3 or risk hiding him on the practice squad.

I think there is less than a 1% chance they get rid of JB. He is on the last yr of his contract, costs to much for anyone to want to trade for him and he can win a game or two if Rivers gets dinged up.

I think there are two options other than "not draft a QB" in relation to QB in the draft, both of which I think are more likely.

Option 1: They fell in love with Jordan Love or Jacob Eason and they'll either trade up for their guy or stay put and get him.

Option 2: They have a Day 3 guy that they like and has developmental traits that they think could add up to a starting QB under the right conditions.

For me in this draft, here's what I see at QB:

Tier 1
Joe Burrow
Tua Tagavailoa

Tier 2
Justin Herbert
Jordan Love
Jacob Eason
Anthony Gordon

Tier 3
Jalen Hurts
Jake Fromm

Tier 4
Everyone else

That is why I'd prefer Option 2, because IMO there's one guy in Tier 2 that's universally seen as a Day 3 guy. I'd draft Anthony Gordon in round 5 or 6, and be confident that I'm getting a developmental guy at a similar level as if I draft a guy in round 2. That level of investment would not prohibit future investment in a QB, either.

[Ironshaft]

I think there is less than a 5% chance we draft a QB at all. Already have Rivers, JB isn't going anywhere, and they have Kelly as the 3rd. Other than getting rid of Kelly to replace him with someone that probably doesn't have his talent.

Then you have to figure out what you are going to do with your 3rd string QB. Carry 3 or risk hiding him on the practice squad.

I think there is less than a 1% chance they get rid of JB. He is on the last yr of his contract, costs to much for anyone to want to trade for him and he can win a game or two if Rivers gets dinged up.

With the expansion of the roster to 55 players, my guess is that almost every team in the league will now carry 3 QBs on their active roster.

It is just too important of a position for success in the league. Being able to guarantee development time to a QB is just too valuable.

[Pez]

Went for DL...

34 Neville Gallimore, IDL, Oklahoma
44 Jalen Reagor, WR, TCU
75 Prince Tega Wanogho, OT, Auburn
122 K.J. Hill, WR, Ohio State
160 Gabriel Davis, WR, UCF
193 Lamar Jackson, CB, Nebraska
197 Antonio Gandy-Golden, WR, Liberty

[IndyNorm]

Since the draft is tomorrow thought I'd give this another run. I don't see there's anyway Love is there at 34 or Dobbins at 44, but it'd be great if they were!!


34 Jordan Love, QB Utah State

44 J.K. Dobbins, RB Ohio State

75 Chase Claypool, WR Notre Dame

122 Hunter Bryant, TE Washington

160 Collin Johnson, WR Texas

193 Raequan Williams, IDL Michigan State

197 Madre Harper, CB Southern Illinois

And here is my draft from the 2nd linked simulator. Similar, but not as good of results IMO

34: R2P2 QB JORDAN LOVE UTAH STATE

44: R2P12 RB J.K. DOBBINS OHIO STATE

75: R3P11 TE HUNTER BRYANT WASHINGTON

122: R4P16 OT JACK DRISCOLL AUBURN

160: R5P14 CB LAMAR JACKSON NEBRASKA

193: R6P14 WR LAWRENCE CAGER GEORGIA

197: R6P18 S DOUGLAS COLEMAN TEXAS TECH

[Puck]

With the expansion of the roster to 55 players, my guess is that almost every team in the league will now carry 3 QBs on their active roster.

It is just too important of a position for success in the league. Being able to guarantee development time to a QB is just too valuable.


One spot must be an Olineman. And I disagree about MOST teams. I think less than half will carry a 3rd QB.

We did with Kelly at the end of the yr.

[Puck]

I think there are two options other than "not draft a QB" in relation to QB in the draft, both of which I think are more likely.

Option 1: They fell in love with Jordan Love or Jacob Eason and they'll either trade up for their guy or stay put and get him.

Option 2: They have a Day 3 guy that they like and has developmental traits that they think could add up to a starting QB under the right conditions.

For me in this draft, here's what I see at QB:

Tier 1
Joe Burrow
Tua Tagavailoa

Tier 2
Justin Herbert
Jordan Love
Jacob Eason
Anthony Gordon

Tier 3
Jalen Hurts
Jake Fromm

Tier 4
Everyone else

That is why I'd prefer Option 2, because IMO there's one guy in Tier 2 that's universally seen as a Day 3 guy. I'd draft Anthony Gordon in round 5 or 6, and be confident that I'm getting a developmental guy at a similar level as if I draft a guy in round 2. That level of investment would not prohibit future investment in a QB, either.


Gordon and Eason are not tier 2 with the Colts

Kelly is better than Gordon and Eason is not anywhere close to tier 2. He is the mix between Jeff George and Ryan Leaf

[Ironshaft]

One spot must be an Olineman. And I disagree about MOST teams. I think less than half will carry a 3rd QB.



We did with Kelly at the end of the yr.No, one of the two extra game day spots must be an O-lineman..

The two extra team roster spots can be any position.

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[Puck]

No, one of the two extra game day spots must be an O-lineman..

The two extra team roster spots can be any position.

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Good info thanks.

[Dam8610]

Gordon and Eason are not tier 2 with the Colts

Kelly is better than Gordon and Eason is not anywhere close to tier 2. He is the mix between Jeff George and Ryan Leaf

Have you watched film on Gordon and Eason? I understand why those comparisons come up for Eason, but you'd really need the psychological profile to definitively say that. I personally like Gordon because I like his ball placement and his ability to extend plays, and those are two traits that have become exponentially more important as the years have passed at the QB position.

[Kray007]

2) Austin Jackson, OT, USC
2) Jalen Reagor, WR, TCU
3) Bryce Hall, CB, UVA
4) Jake Fromm, QB, Georgia
5) Cheyenne O'Grady, TE, Arkansas
6) Derek Tuszka, DE, ND State
6) Kindle Vildor, CB, Georgia Southern.

Jackson's got pro bowl type talent at LT
Reagor's an explosive athlete with a 42 inch vertical
Hall's a prototype zone Corner
Fromm lacks arm strength, but they said the same thing about Peyton
O'Grady has huge upside, but he has major character flags, which I'm willing to ignore.
Tuszka's undersized for the position, but he brings explosion and performed at a high level at a small school. Reminds me of Mathis
Vildor brings everything to the position except size

[Dam8610]

I've actually found a thing PFF is good for. Their mock draft simulator is great. My most recent results:

Trade with NYJ:
21, 54, 127, 165 for 23, 34, 66, 86

23) DE Jaelan Phillips
34) LT Teven Jenkins
66) DE Payton Turner

Trade with PIT:
86 for 87, 128

Trade with LAR:
87 for 88, 141

88) WR Nico Collins
128) DT Milton Williams

Trade with JAX:
141 for 145, 170

145) CB Benjamin St. Juste
170) DT Bobby Brown III
206) TE Tre' McKitty
248) RB CJ Verdell

That's a completely rebuilt DL with athleticism and length abound, an LT for the next 10+ years, a big, fast X receiver, and a bunch of athletes with excellent traits. The first two picks alone would be better than a dream scenario.

[apballin]

I've actually found a thing PFF is good for. Their mock draft simulator is great. My most recent results:

Trade with NYJ:
21, 54, 127, 165 for 23, 34, 66, 86

23) DE Jaelan Phillips
34) LT Teven Jenkins
66) DE Payton Turner

Trade with PIT:
86 for 87, 128

Trade with LAR:
87 for 88, 141

88) WR Nico Collins
128) DT Milton Williams

Trade with JAX:
141 for 145, 170

145) CB Benjamin St. Juste
170) DT Bobby Brown III
206) TE Tre' McKitty
248) RB CJ Verdell

That's a completely rebuilt DL with athleticism and length abound, an LT for the next 10+ years, a big, fast X receiver, and a bunch of athletes with excellent traits. The first two picks alone would be better than a dream scenario.

No way Jenkins is there at 34

I took Jenkins at 21

Then Ronnie Perkins at 54

[Spike]

No way Jenkins is there at 34

I took Jenkins at 21

Then Ronnie Perkins at 54

I agree about Jenkins. I think the Titans may trade up to get him and keep him away from us.

[ukcolt]

I've actually found a thing PFF is good for. Their mock draft simulator is great. My most recent results:

Trade with NYJ:
21, 54, 127, 165 for 23, 34, 66, 86

23) DE Jaelan Phillips
34) LT Teven Jenkins
66) DE Payton Turner

Trade with PIT:
86 for 87, 128

Trade with LAR:
87 for 88, 141

88) WR Nico Collins
128) DT Milton Williams

Trade with JAX:
141 for 145, 170

145) CB Benjamin St. Juste
170) DT Bobby Brown III
206) TE Tre' McKitty
248) RB CJ Verdell

That's a completely rebuilt DL with athleticism and length abound, an LT for the next 10+ years, a big, fast X receiver, and a bunch of athletes with excellent traits. The first two picks alone would be better than a dream scenario.

That first trade is utterly stupid, and totally unrealistic. You get to trade back just 2 spots, move up 20 spots in the 2nd round, go from pick 127 to 66 and then from pick 165 to 86?

Existing picks were worth 800, 360, 45 and 24 for a total of 1229 and in return you get 760, 560, 260 and 160 for a total of 1740. If you were EVER able to get that in real life, you would be voted GM of the year instantly. The net gain was 511 points or the 39th overall pick, so a very high 2nd round pick. I do understand this is just a draft simulator, but to say that it is a good one, when it offers that sort of trade option, says to me that it really isn't a very good simulator at all.

Personally i think that confirms that PFF is there only as a guide and wild fun.

I actually don't mind some of their statistical analysis, even if it is often very flawed.

[Dam8610]

That first trade is utterly stupid, and totally unrealistic. You get to trade back just 2 spots, move up 20 spots in the 2nd round, go from pick 127 to 66 and then from pick 165 to 86?

Existing picks were worth 800, 360, 45 and 24 for a total of 1229 and in return you get 760, 560, 260 and 160 for a total of 1740. If you were EVER able to get that in real life, you would be voted GM of the year instantly. The net gain was 511 points or the 39th overall pick, so a very high 2nd round pick. I do understand this is just a draft simulator, but to say that it is a good one, when it offers that sort of trade option, says to me that it really isn't a very good simulator at all.

Personally i think that confirms that PFF is there only as a guide and wild fun.

I actually don't mind some of their statistical analysis, even if it is often very flawed.

Lopsided TVC trades have definitely happened in real life. One even happened between the Colts and Jets recently. In 2018, the Colts traded the #3 pick (2200) for the #6 pick (1600), #34 pick (560), #49 (410), and a 2019 2nd round pick (228), which, since it was from the Jets and they were drafting a QB, it is fair to assume that the pick would be top half of the round, and future picks are typically devalued by one round, which results in the value shown above, which is the average of the values of 3rd round picks 1-16. 2200 < 1600 + 560 + 410 + 228 = 2798. According to TVC, the Jets overpaid by the equivalent of a low 1 to move up those 3 spots. TVC is a guide and all of it is relative. Another example would be that I am certain the 49ers overpaid by TVC to move from 12 to 3, but if they get a QB that puts them in championship contention, they won't care.

[Chromeburn]

QBs drive the price up of those picks.

[ukcolt]

Lopsided TVC trades have definitely happened in real life. One even happened between the Colts and Jets recently. In 2018, the Colts traded the #3 pick (2200) for the #6 pick (1600), #34 pick (560), #49 (410), and a 2019 2nd round pick (228), which, since it was from the Jets and they were drafting a QB, it is fair to assume that the pick would be top half of the round, and future picks are typically devalued by one round, which results in the value shown above, which is the average of the values of 3rd round picks 1-16. 2200 < 1600 + 560 + 410 + 228 = 2798. According to TVC, the Jets overpaid by the equivalent of a low 1 to move up those 3 spots. TVC is a guide and all of it is relative. Another example would be that I am certain the 49ers overpaid by TVC to move from 12 to 3, but if they get a QB that puts them in championship contention, they won't care.

There are examples, but only at the very top end of the draft, where you are trying to get the very cream of the crop and yes you then might have to pay a premium.

[Dam8610]

There are examples, but only at the very top end of the draft, where you are trying to get the very cream of the crop and yes you then might have to pay a premium.

The Saints gave up the 27th and 147th (4th round) pick and the following year 1 to move up 13 spots to 14 to take Marcus Davenport.

[Dam8610]

So I thought this was interesting. It's not incredibly realistic, but I think adding that group of players would make the Colts much more formidable over the next several seasons. In case the attachment is unreadable for whatever reason:

31) EDGE Azeez Ojulari
33) LT Teven Jenkins
66) EDGE Payton Turner
91) WR Nico Collins
106) DE/DT Milton Williams
134) TE Tommy Tremble
157) CB Benjamin St Juste
165) CB Shakur Brown
170) EDGE Elerson Smith
223) OG Cole Van Lanen
248) DT Ta'Quan Graham

Each of the players listed at edge are long, athletic freaks. Including the DEs and DTs, the lowest RAS score in the bunch is Ojulari at 8.17, and the other 4 are above 9.6, topping out with Williams's 9.96. Obviously this isn't likely to happen, and I'd be willing to bet on most of these guys going a half to full round higher in the real draft, but it would be nice to get this group of players.

[smitty46953]

The Saints gave up the 27th and 147th (4th round) pick and the following year 1 to move up 13 spots to 14 to take Marcus Davenport.

That was a mistake, Davenport never has developed into what they thought he would.

[Dam8610]

That was a mistake, Davenport never has developed into what they thought he would.

I agree, but more importantly that trade was an example of a team paying a premium at not the very top of the first round to move up about half a round in the first for a non-QB.