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YDFL Commish
02-06-2017, 08:09 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2691129-2017-nfl-mock-draft-matt-millers-post-super-bowl-predictions

omahacolt
02-06-2017, 08:12 PM
yep

i would kick a puppy if that was our draft

VeveJones007
02-06-2017, 08:48 PM
Pre-combine mocks are pretty useless. Charleton would probably be an okay pick. Plays the run well and has a spin to go with his speed rush. Would like more suddenness though.

Indiana V2
02-06-2017, 11:08 PM
Why on earth would we draft not one, but two wide receivers?

Coltsalr
02-06-2017, 11:28 PM
Why on earth would we draft not one, but two wide receivers?

Because this whole hiring Ballard thing is all a ruse and Ryan Grigson really is the man still in charge of drafting?

Assuming that's not the case, other than that, no, I have no idea why the Colts would ever do that.

Anyone trying to do a 7 round mock is really just inviting ridicule. There's no way to be so well versed in all 32 teams so as to nail a Mock in such a way where you're not getting scorn.

Blue Thunder
02-07-2017, 01:36 AM
I'd be ok with Wilson (cb) in the 3rd and Staples (wr)in the 6th. Other than that not a fan.

HoosierinFL
02-07-2017, 09:39 AM
Why on earth would we draft not one, but two wide receivers?

yea, that was my thought. I'm not against a late round pick on an obscure WR prospect. Lots of good players found that way. But not 2. No way, not when we need more LBs, lots more LBs.

ukcolt
02-07-2017, 05:00 PM
A mid round RB, and maybe a late round WR, other than that it should be all defense. The offense really isn't the problem.

sherck
02-07-2017, 05:39 PM
A mid round RB, and maybe a late round WR, other than that it should be all defense. The offense really isn't the problem.
I too want pretty much all-defense in both free agency and the draft except for RB and Punter.....

However, if a "1st round" O-Lineman fell to our 2nd round pick or our 3rd round pick, I would not complain, I like who we have but you can almost always use another talented body on the O-Line when you have a franchise QB to protect.

Cheers,

omahacolt
02-07-2017, 06:40 PM
I too want pretty much all-defense in both free agency and the draft except for RB and Punter.....

However, if a "1st round" O-Lineman fell to our 2nd round pick or our 3rd round pick, I would not complain, I like who we have but you can almost always use another talented body on the O-Line when you have a franchise QB to protect.

Cheers,

if a 1st round olineman falls to the 2nd or 3rd round, then they were never a 1st round olineman

Hoopsdoc
02-07-2017, 07:34 PM
Draft lots of fatties and linebackers.

sherck
02-08-2017, 08:56 AM
if a 1st round olineman falls to the 2nd or 3rd round, then they were never a 1st round olineman
Sorry, I suppose I misspoke.

Take Le'Raven Clark. His physical abilities were 1st round OT worthy; his pro day and combine stats were right in line with those of Ronnie Stanley, Jack Conklin or Laremy Tunsil all of whom were picked within the first 13 spots of the 2016 draft.

However, he had poor technique due to the "blur" offensive system they run at Texas Tech and was considered to need a year or two of work before he could perform at the same level that his physical abilities indicated he should be at.

There were a lot of pre-draft projections that were predicting that Clark would be drafted at the bottom of the 1st round or at the top of the 2nd round. NFL.com predicted 1st or 2nd round. CBSportsline predicted 1st round. Walter Football predicted 1st or 2nd round.

Was he a 1st round talent that fell? Or, in your world, a 3rd round talent because that is where he was picked?

If another Le'Raven Clark is available with our 2nd round pick (Ramcyzk is my guess of someone who could slide), I think that Ballard would have to think hard about selecting him. It is obvious that Philbin knows what he is doing in bringing young O-Linemen along.

Cheers,

omahacolt
02-08-2017, 09:03 AM
Sorry, I suppose I misspoke.

Take Le'Raven Clark. His physical abilities were 1st round OT worthy; his pro day and combine stats were right in line with those of Ronnie Stanley, Jack Conklin or Laremy Tunsil all of whom were picked within the first 13 spots of the 2016 draft.

However, he had poor technique due to the "blur" offensive system they run at Texas Tech and was considered to need a year or two of work before he could perform at the same level that his physical abilities indicated he should be at.

There were a lot of pre-draft projections that were predicting that Clark would be drafted at the bottom of the 1st round or at the top of the 2nd round. NFL.com predicted 1st or 2nd round. CBSportsline predicted 1st round. Walter Football predicted 1st or 2nd round.

Was he a 1st round talent that fell? Or, in your world, a 3rd round talent because that is where he was picked?

If another Le'Raven Clark is available with our 2nd round pick (Ramcyzk is my guess of someone who could slide), I think that Ballard would have to think hard about selecting him. It is obvious that Philbin knows what he is doing in bringing young O-Linemen along.

Cheers,
Easy

Draft websites and "experts" claim thing to be true when they aren't. Every year "1st round" guys drop way out of the 1st round. Medicals and off field are the reasons 1st round guys drop out.

rcubed
02-08-2017, 12:21 PM
I read a mock that had us taking christian mccaffrey in the second. Not sure if he would be there, but if he was, would you take him with our #2?

I know it would depend on who else is available, but in general would you take him?

sherck
02-08-2017, 12:36 PM
I read a mock that had us taking christian mccaffrey in the second. Not sure if he would be there, but if he was, would you take him with our #2?

I know it would depend on who else is available, but in general would you take him?

The ONLY way that I would be okay with taking an offensive specialty player higher than the 4th round is if we had already though: re-signing our own free agents, free agency and the 1st round of the draft, gotten:

2x OLB (one could be Walden but the other needs to be pure rush)
At least 1x ILB
At least one more body in the front 7 (D-Line, LB, don't care)
At least 1x secondary body (Butler could be that guy)

So, in my scenario, if we re-sign Walden and Butler and have added an additional 3x guys to the front seven that are new starters and not depth, then I would be okay with adding an offensive specialty player earlier than the 4th round.

And McCaffery would be a solid choice. I do worry about this one part of his NFL.com Draft Profile:
Can shake tacklers, but lacks a twitchy burst to accelerate away after the cut. Average burst may not be enough to race past NFL speed on second level.
The college ranks are FULL of guys who have the athleticism to look good against 90% of the other college players out there.

However, the NFL is full of those other 10% of guys from the college ranks and if you do not measure up athletically.....

I am not saying that McCaffery will not make it but I hate spending a 2nd round pick on a RB who does not have elite athleticism. We can find those guys with 4th round picks.

Cheers,

omahacolt
02-08-2017, 12:38 PM
I read a mock that had us taking christian mccaffrey in the second. Not sure if he would be there, but if he was, would you take him with our #2?

I know it would depend on who else is available, but in general would you take him?

Fuck no you don't take him

rcubed
02-08-2017, 12:50 PM
Fuck no you don't take him

that's what I assumed most replies would be, just checking.

VeveJones007
02-08-2017, 02:30 PM
I read a mock that had us taking christian mccaffrey in the second. Not sure if he would be there, but if he was, would you take him with our #2?

I know it would depend on who else is available, but in general would you take him?

Just say no to white RBs.