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AlwaysSunnyinIndy
03-21-2020, 12:07 PM
Per Rapoport:


https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1241393881364791298

Source: The #Colts are releasing Pierre Desir.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1241394639229386752

The #Colts owed Pierre Desir almost $7M this year and have no dead money against the cap. But they did extend him just last year, paying him $9M in 2019. Now, he’s a free agent.

Luck4Reich
03-21-2020, 12:09 PM
Per Rapoport:


https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1241393881364791298

Wow.... how much space did that free up and who is Ballard looking at?

Racehorse
03-21-2020, 12:14 PM
Wow.... how much space did that free up and who is Ballard looking at?

That is the only way this makes sense. I mean, we had $45M in cap. Maybe they asked for a redo and he balked. Someone will snatch him up.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy
03-21-2020, 12:14 PM
Wow.... how much space did that free up and who is Ballard looking at?


Just added the second tweet from Rapoport.

Looks like it results in $6.85MM in cap savings (with no dead money) according to the website Overthecap.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy
03-21-2020, 12:18 PM
That is the only way this makes sense. I mean, we had $45M in cap. Maybe they asked for a redo and he balked. Someone will snatch him up.


$45MM doesn't include the Rivers signing. It was closer to $20MM after deducting the Rivers contract and prior to this move.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy
03-21-2020, 12:27 PM
https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/status/1241398332804812801

Desir was not expecting this move, I can tell you that.

https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1241394637308338176

Had a disappointing 2019. Battled injuries throughout.

https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1241396853624709120

Colts release Pierre Desir.

Indy's cornerbacks at the moment:
— Kenny Moore
— Rock Ya-Sin
— Marvell Tell
— Quincy Wilson

Cutting Desir was a financial move, I'm told, but team hasn't ruled out bringing him back if opportunity presents itself.

rcubed
03-21-2020, 12:33 PM
Weird move. Do we really need the cap space? Targeting another bigish signing?

Goes a bit against what ballard used to preach in terms of competition, play well, get paid. Maybe they weren’t happy enough with his play last year.


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ChoppedWood
03-21-2020, 01:00 PM
I left for a long time just fed up with the overall NFL product in general, not necessarily anything happening with the shoe. Of course now I am parched and my stomach rumbles with hunger pains...

Consider me puzzled... Desir can play the position, maybe it is a question about chronic injury that will limit him going forward... otherwise I don't get it...



I don't like the Rivers move, why, who the F is he going to throw to? I get the whole "as recently as 2018 he was in the MVP hunt late into the season", but man- we got NOTHING going at WR for him to work with this year...

I love Buckner, should free up Darius to get back to running around smacking people downhill... and listening to him on the radio, I think that dude is going to come in here looking to prove he may be 1A to Donald's 1 this year but looking to take the mantle the following year.

YDFL Commish
03-21-2020, 01:20 PM
Any good FA CB"s left? I doubt it. I guess we will draft another CB or two and hope they play well.

apballin
03-21-2020, 01:43 PM
Yeah I didn’t see this coming either, perhaps not as valuable with Hopkins gone

AlwaysSunnyinIndy
03-21-2020, 02:05 PM
Any good FA CB"s left? I doubt it.

Free agent CB's:

-Logan Ryan
-Pierre Desir
-Nickell Robey-Coleman
-Ronald Darby
-Jimmy Smith
-Rashaan Melvin
-Prince Amukamara
-Bashaud Breeland
-Trumaine Johnson
-P.J. Williams
-Jason Verrett
-Morris Claiborne
-Daryl Worley
-Johnathan Joseph
-Brandon Carr

Colt Classic
03-21-2020, 03:53 PM
no thanks to that list--look draftward.

Oldcolt
03-21-2020, 05:11 PM
Ballard must have more faith in Tell/Wilson than most folks do.

Oldcolt
03-21-2020, 05:15 PM
Reading where this has to do with cap savings. WTF? Does Ballard have his eye on another big time free agent defensive lineman?

Maniac
03-21-2020, 05:54 PM
Hope this doesn't come back to bite us.

Puck
03-21-2020, 06:56 PM
I think he goes CB early in the draft

Discflinger
03-21-2020, 07:58 PM
There is a ton of rollover, 40 mil?, from last year that we won’t have next year. I doubt we make anymore big splashes unless JB is traded/cut.

Thorgrim
03-21-2020, 08:36 PM
I think he goes CB early in the draft

I hope he didn’t create an unnecessary need. Our early picks were earmarked for WR and OL or QB I had hoped.

YDFL Commish
03-22-2020, 10:10 AM
Free agent CB's:

-Logan Ryan
-Pierre Desir
-Nickell Robey-Coleman
-Ronald Darby
-Jimmy Smith
-Rashaan Melvin
-Prince Amukamara
-Bashaud Breeland
-Trumaine Johnson
-P.J. Williams
-Jason Verrett
-Morris Claiborne
-Daryl Worley
-Johnathan Joseph
-Brandon Carr

If the mandate is win now, wouldn't Logan Ryan be a good signing?

Luck4Reich
03-22-2020, 10:53 AM
If the mandate is win now, wouldn't Logan Ryan be a good signing?

Read he isnt willing to accept less than 10 million annually. I would like to have him. 2 year 22mil ?

IndyNorm
03-22-2020, 11:21 AM
This one is a head scratcher for me. Despite his drop off last year (presumably due to injury) he's probably our best outside CB and since his remaining contract is all non-guaranteed salary we could have cut him during camp w/out any cap implications.

Hopefully Ballard has a plan in place for increased cap space.

Thorgrim
03-22-2020, 12:57 PM
Read he isnt willing to accept less than 10 million annually. I would like to have him. 2 year 22mil ?

Would have preferred we kept Desir. Ryan is a bit of a feast or famine type player, makes some big plays but has a penchant for giving up the TD as well.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy
03-22-2020, 02:09 PM
Didn't take long.......Desir signs with the Jets

https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1241784791256662016

SOURCE: The #Jets have agreed to a 1-year deal with CB Pierre Desir.

There’s your new starting DB


https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1241802107310804992

The #Jets are giving CB Pierre Desir a 1-year contract worth up to $5.5M max, source said. He lands quickly after the surprising release.

Chaka
03-22-2020, 03:51 PM
Didn't take long.......Desir signs with the Jets

https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1241784791256662016

Bummer. I always liked Desir

YDFL Commish
03-22-2020, 08:00 PM
So the Jests have signed Desir and Andrews. No team like Coats castoffs more than the Jests. There may be over half a dozen former Coats on the Jests roster.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy
03-22-2020, 09:45 PM
So the Jests have signed Desir and Andrews. No team like Coats castoffs more than the Jests. There may be over half a dozen former Coats on the Jests roster.


It is the Rex Hogan effect.

Brylok
03-23-2020, 01:20 AM
The Desir decision is the weirdest one so far this year. I don't like it, but I'm trusting in Ballard. I don't like keeping JB either, especially at that wage, but as I said before...
I don't think they'll play the NFL season this year anyway, so ultimately it probably won't matter.

Luck4Reich
03-23-2020, 09:49 AM
The Desir decision is the weirdest one so far this year. I don't like it, but I'm trusting in Ballard. I don't like keeping JB either, especially at that wage, but as I said before...
I don't think they'll play the NFL season this year anyway, so ultimately it probably won't matter.

It was a weird move but hope Ballard has the answer.

Also, the season will start. Stay positive.

Spike
03-23-2020, 10:15 AM
It was a weird move but hope Ballard has the answer.

Also, the season will start. Stay positive.

I agree. Too much tv revenue to not have a season, even if the stands are empty. Just look at Monday Night Raw. It's still going on without fans in the arena.

Spike
03-23-2020, 10:16 AM
It was a weird move but hope Ballard has the answer.

Also, the season will start. Stay positive.

Didn't like this move at all.

Chaka
03-24-2020, 06:17 AM
Looks like Desir got a one year deal from the Jets at $3.75M, and could increase to $5.5M with incentives.

http://www.profootballrumors.com/2020/03/nfl-contract-details-brees-mariota-apple-desir-henne

omahacolt
03-24-2020, 10:28 PM
Hope this doesn't come back to bite us.

It will. This move was retarded

rm1369
03-25-2020, 11:55 AM
It will. This move was retarded

Unless they have something in the works where they needed the cap space it makes absolutely no sense.

Puck
03-25-2020, 01:58 PM
It will. This move was retarded

I think it means the Colts might be moving more to man to man and less Zone. Desir was not very good in M2M

Just a thought

Dam8610
03-25-2020, 04:38 PM
I think it means the Colts might be moving more to man to man and less Zone. Desir was not very good in M2M

Just a thought

Wasn't Desir their Hopkins coverage specialist?

smitty46953
03-26-2020, 06:45 PM
Looks like Desir got a one year deal from the Jets at $3.75M, and could increase to $5.5M with incentives.

http://www.profootballrumors.com/2020/03/nfl-contract-details-brees-mariota-apple-desir-henne

Wonder if tried to renegotiate? If he signed for $3.75M he might have stayed here for $4.25M ? :cool:

Even with the signing of Rhodes, having Desir on the roster as well would have been nice.

Luck4Reich
03-26-2020, 06:49 PM
Wonder if tried to renegotiate? If he signed for $3.75M he might have stayed here for $4.25M ? :cool:

Even with the signing of Rhodes, having Desir on the roster as well would have been nice.

No kidding! That would have been serious depth.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy
03-26-2020, 06:57 PM
Wonder if tried to renegotiate? If he signed for $3.75M he might have stayed here for $4.25M ? :cool:

Even with the signing of Rhodes, having Desir on the roster as well would have been nice.


Well Z. Keefer mentioned that the Colts were open to his return "if the opportunity presented itself" (tweet on first page of this thread)

In the past, if Ballard doesn't want to pay top dollar on a free agent contract, he usually tells the player / agent to go explore the open market and see what you can get. Then come back to the Colts before you sign and see if they want to match / beat. For instance, they did that with Geathers last year. If Desir had a sour taste from his release, maybe he didn't come back to Ballard after he scored the Jets offer.

Luck4Reich
03-26-2020, 06:59 PM
Well Z. Keefer mentioned that the Colts were open to his return "if the opportunity presented itself" (tweet on first page of this thread)

In the past, if Ballard doesn't want to pay top dollar on a free agent contract, he usually tells the player / agent to go explore the open market and see what you can get. Then come back to the Colts before you sign and see if they want to match / beat. For instance, they did that with Geathers last year. If Desir had a sour taste from his release, maybe he didn't come back to Ballard after he scored the Jets offer.

Playing for the Jests is sour taste all by itself. :cool:

Puck
03-26-2020, 07:26 PM
Wasn't Desir their Hopkins coverage specialist?

I think he gave up 105 yd in M2M against the chiefs last yr