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njcoltfan
12-29-2019, 07:36 AM
Zzzzzzz

omahacolt
12-29-2019, 10:19 AM
D on the title. Very little effort put in

rcubed
12-29-2019, 11:27 AM
D on the title. Very little effort put in



What do you really expect at this point?


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Colts And Orioles
12-29-2019, 11:56 AM
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ESPN ) breaks down today's game, and gives the picks of both Colts writer Mike Wells and Jaguars writer Michael DiRocco.



Colts (7-8) at Jaguars (5-10)

Matchup Rating: 28.5 | Spread: IND -3.5 (43)



What to Watch for: ) The Colts ran for 264 yards in the last meeting (Marlon Mack had 109 and Jonathan Williams had 116) against the Jaguars, who have given up 176 yards per game rushing in their past seven games (including the Colts game.) --- Michael DiRocco


Bold Prediction: ) Colts defensive end Justin Houston will get two sacks to give him his highest sack total (12) since he recorded 22 during the 2014 season with the Chiefs. --- Mike Wells


Stat to Know: ) Gardner Minshew II could become the first Jaguars quarterback to throw for 3,000 yards in his rookie season (2,976 passing yards coming into the game.)


What's at Stake: ) Both teams are eliminated, but the outcome could impact tiebreakers for the AFC's No. 6 seed. FPI projects the Jaguars to pick No. 6 and the Colts to pick No. 16 in the 2020 draft.


Betting Nugget: ) Jacksonville is 7-1-1 ATS against Indianapolis in the past five seasons, including 4-0 outright and ATS at home.



Wells' Pick: ) Colts 27, Jaguars 17

DiRocco's Pick: ) Colts 21, Jaguars 13

FPI Preciction: ) INDIANAPOLIS, 64.0% (By an Average of 4.8 Points.)



https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28366043/week-17-nfl-game-picks-schedule-guide-playoff-scenarios-more


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1965southpaw
12-29-2019, 12:13 PM
The Jags seem to have quit for the season. I think Frank will have his guys ready. I'm predicting a colts win. If we somehow find a way to lose........it's gonna be a long off season. Go Colts.

Dam8610
12-29-2019, 12:25 PM
The Jags seem to have quit for the season. I think Frank will have his guys ready. I'm predicting a colts win. If we somehow find a way to lose........it's gonna be a long off season. Go Colts.

Why? Losing means a higher draft pick and a lower one for the Jags.

Chromeburn
12-29-2019, 12:43 PM
The Jags seem to have quit for the season. I think Frank will have his guys ready. I'm predicting a colts win. If we somehow find a way to lose........it's gonna be a long off season. Go Colts.

I could care less about this game. I won’t even think about it tomorrow unless it has a huge impact on our draft position. We need a QB and a higher pick helps us immensely.


And I like the thread title.

Thorgrim
12-29-2019, 01:11 PM
I could care less about this game. I won’t even think about it tomorrow unless it has a huge impact on our draft position. We need a QB and a higher pick helps us immensely.


And I like the thread title.

The better pick would be great. I’m actually pretty excited about this years draft prospects. I think we have an excellent chance to improve at both wr and qb. That said, if they do win today I could see a 27-13 game.

Brylok
12-29-2019, 01:55 PM
The game isn't on TV in my area, so I'd have to find a stream. That has become a pain in the ass and I'm not sure it's worth my time. I'm not really interested in watching the Colts run the ball 60 times against the Jags. Boring. I'd probably watch if Chad Kelly started, but we know that's not happening. We'll see

ukcolt
12-29-2019, 02:00 PM
Title should have been "This is still real football, stop whining, it's another 9 months until the next game, make the most of it"

omahacolt
12-29-2019, 03:11 PM
What do you really expect at this point?


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I expect people to take starting the official gameday thread seriously. We can’t all be terrible like Jacoby

omahacolt
12-29-2019, 03:12 PM
I could care less about this game. I won’t even think about it tomorrow unless it has a huge impact on our draft position. We need a QB and a higher pick helps us immensely.


And I like the thread title.

“I couldn’t care less” is the phrase. Unless you indeed do care

Dewey 5
12-29-2019, 03:46 PM
I could care less about this game. I won’t even think about it tomorrow unless it has a huge impact on our draft position. We need a QB and a higher pick helps us immensely.


And I like the thread title.

There are only two qb's imo that are reasonably ready to start next year. Burrow & Tua & we aren't getting either of them.The rest are 1-2 year projects. Tua might drop some because of his injury but not far enough.

Puck
12-29-2019, 04:02 PM
There are only two qb's imo that are reasonably ready to start next year. Burrow & Tua & we aren't getting either of them.The rest are 1-2 year projects. Tua might drop some because of his injury but not far enough.

Jake Fromm

Puck
12-29-2019, 04:17 PM
Watched Ford vs Ferrari this morning before the games started. Pretty good

Racehorse
12-29-2019, 04:41 PM
I will likely have to be AWOL today. My father in law passed on Christmas Eve and the house is full of her family. I will be sneaking peeks at the game, but posting may be tricky.

Go Horse!

Puck
12-29-2019, 04:49 PM
I will likely have to be AWOL today. My father in law passed on Christmas Eve and the house is full of her family. I will be sneaking peeks at the game, but posting may be tricky.

Go Horse!


Sorry to hear . thoughts to your wife and family .

Racehorse
12-29-2019, 05:05 PM
Gaydy lost. Makes today a good football day already.

Colts And Orioles
12-29-2019, 05:15 PM
Gaydy lost ........ makes today a good football day already.




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In December of 2010, the New York Jets were beaten by the Patriots by a score of 45-3 ........ a little over a month later, they avenged that loss in the playoff by beating that same Patriots team.


http://www.jt-sw.com/football/boxes/index.nsf/Games/2010-13-nyj-ne

http://www.jt-sw.com/football/boxes/index.nsf/Games/2010-post-div-nyj-ne



9 years later, and somewhat similarly, the Miami Dolphins were beaten by a score of 43-0 by the New England Patriots in September ........ and then avenged that loss 3 and-a-half months later with a win in the final week of the season. In the process, they KO'd the Patriots from having a 1st-round bye in the post-season.


https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201909150mia.htm

https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=401127909


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Spike
12-29-2019, 05:15 PM
I will likely have to be AWOL today. My father in law passed on Christmas Eve and the house is full of her family. I will be sneaking peeks at the game, but posting may be tricky.

Go Horse!

Sorry to hear about your loss Racehorse. My prayers go out to you and your family.

Spike
12-29-2019, 05:35 PM
Nice drive, too bad it only ended up with a field goal.

NextManUp
12-29-2019, 05:36 PM
My greatest fear is that JB will have a monster game and the Colts staff will have the confidence to make him our franchise QB going forward.

Spike
12-29-2019, 05:37 PM
Gaydy lost. Makes today a good football day already.

Absolutely. For some reason Miami is the kryptonite to the Patsies.

Spike
12-29-2019, 05:39 PM
My greatest fear is that JB will have a monster game and the Colts staff will have the confidence to make him our franchise QB going forward.

I doubt it. He may start nest year, but if the Colts believe JB is a franchise QB, we are fucked as Colt fans.

Spike
12-29-2019, 05:49 PM
Damn nice to have Hilton back healthy.

Brylok
12-29-2019, 05:55 PM
Watched Ford vs Ferrari this morning before the games started. Pretty good

I've been meaning to watch that. Looks good

Brylok
12-29-2019, 05:57 PM
I will likely have to be AWOL today. My father in law passed on Christmas Eve and the house is full of her family. I will be sneaking peeks at the game, but posting may be tricky.

Go Horse!

Sorry to hear that Racehorse. All the best to you and your family

Spike
12-29-2019, 05:59 PM
Mack is a beast.

Racehorse
12-29-2019, 06:04 PM
Team came to play af=gain this week

Brylok
12-29-2019, 06:19 PM
Yeah, let's get Doyle hung out and injured on a trick play in a meaningless game. Don't do that again please

WaynesWorld87
12-29-2019, 06:24 PM
How much does losing help our draft status?

I need to know how mad to get if we lose to this shitty ass team that has even less to play for than we do.

WaynesWorld87
12-29-2019, 06:26 PM
Our defense fucking sucks. It's been total garbage the last half of the season. That's a pretty major concern going forward. I thought our defense was "closer" to being at least above average than they've shown the last 6-8 games of the season.

Spike
12-29-2019, 06:29 PM
Yeah, let's get Doyle hung out and injured on a trick play in a meaningless game. Don't do that again please

If JB would have led him correctly, Doyle would have caught it in stride. That was all on JB being inaccurate AGAIN.

Brylok
12-29-2019, 06:29 PM
I'm tired of seeing wide open receivers in the middle of the field 15-20+ yards down field

Spike
12-29-2019, 06:30 PM
Defense can't stop shit.

WaynesWorld87
12-29-2019, 06:30 PM
If JB would have led him correctly, Doyle would have caught it in stride. That was all on JB being inaccurate AGAIN.
Everything else is place. But we need an obvious upgrade at QB, and our defense still has a ways to go.

apballin
12-29-2019, 06:30 PM
Charmin Ya-sin, surprisingly the jags came to play today must still be pissed about that ass whopping we gave them

Racehorse
12-29-2019, 06:33 PM
Charmin Ya-sin, surprisingly the jags came to play today must still be pissed about that ass whopping we gave them

Look at the troll who finally showed up

WaynesWorld87
12-29-2019, 06:36 PM
Alright defense, pull your heads out of your asses and do something.

Spike
12-29-2019, 06:36 PM
Kelly just pancaked someone, hell yeah resign him.

Spike
12-29-2019, 06:38 PM
Hines and Mack are fucking up the Jags.

Brylok
12-29-2019, 06:39 PM
McLaughlin's extra points have been iffy. Could have missed both of them. We still need competition at that spot

Thorgrim
12-29-2019, 06:40 PM
I think we get a turnover.

JAFF
12-29-2019, 06:43 PM
McLaughlin's extra points have been iffy. Could have missed both of them. We still need competition at that spot

Down the middle or graze an upright is the same thing

Brylok
12-29-2019, 06:45 PM
Down the middle or graze an upright is the same thing

First one floated and barely went in right. Second knuckle balled and barely went in left

WaynesWorld87
12-29-2019, 06:48 PM
"Brissett, of the 32 starting NFL quarterbacks, holds the ball the longest."

Then the commentator backs it up with a statistical fact.

Get rid of the fucking ball dumbass!!

Brylok
12-29-2019, 06:52 PM
And then he hits from 50 yards

Colts And Orioles
12-29-2019, 06:52 PM
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Chase McLaughlin just might be a good player to hold onto for next season, presuming that Adam Vinatieri retires.

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Colts And Orioles
12-29-2019, 06:58 PM
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Good celebration slide by the Jaguars' kicker ........ his team is still losing by 4 points, though.

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Brylok
12-29-2019, 07:19 PM
Rock Ya-Singe isn't that good. Hope he improves

Spike
12-29-2019, 07:27 PM
JB just sucks, no other way to put it.

Brylok
12-29-2019, 07:31 PM
JB just sucks, no other way to put it.

So does Eberflus' defensive scheme. At least it's current configuration

WaynesWorld87
12-29-2019, 07:32 PM
I really hope we're secretly trying to lose this game, because there's no damn reason we should lose to this team. Especially by allowing their offense to carve us up like this with a rookie QB and their best offensive player in street clothes.

Spike
12-29-2019, 07:36 PM
So does Eberflus' defensive scheme. At least it's current configuration

Yep, defense has looked terrible.

Brylok
12-29-2019, 07:39 PM
Yep, defense has looked terrible.

I'mma start warming up for the off-season threads. "We need a damn pass-rusher". Been saying that for years now

JAFF
12-29-2019, 07:42 PM
So does Eberflus' defensive scheme. At least it's current configuration

They need a big time passrusher

WaynesWorld87
12-29-2019, 07:46 PM
Yeah, Reich isn't "super serious" about winnign this game. He's punted and/or elected for a FG several times today in situations he would've gone for it on 4th down in other games this season.

Puck
12-29-2019, 07:47 PM
I'mma start warming up for the off-season threads. "We need a damn pass-rusher". Been saying that for years now

We need 4 on the Dline . and secondary in a big way.

Puck
12-29-2019, 07:48 PM
Id challenge that if I were JAx

Brylok
12-29-2019, 07:54 PM
Haha. Only JAX could fumble the ball forward for 15 yards and get a first down against the Colts

WaynesWorld87
12-29-2019, 07:54 PM
Fuck this defense. I can only hope it's a case of the players not giving a shit, because there's no reason to be getting gashed by the Jaguars offense. Of course our defense has sucked ass for the past 6 weeks, so this isn't a big surprise.

Brylok
12-29-2019, 07:58 PM
Fuck this defense. I can only hope it's a case of the players not giving a shit, because there's no reason to be getting gashed by the Jaguars offense. Of course our defense has sucked ass for the past 6 weeks, so this isn't a big surprise.

Dude. It's the last game and doesn't really matter. You should calm down. You're gonna wind up with high blood pressure or risk of stoke or something

Brylok
12-29-2019, 08:02 PM
That being said, I understand it. That last series was a disaster. Brisket is awful

RCAChainGang
12-29-2019, 08:03 PM
Just feels like Jacoby only throws it if he has someone wide open. I think he knows he just doesn't have the accuracy to fit it into tight windows. Frank Reich said that the number one trait for a QB is accuracy. I have to think that he knows that Jacoby isn't the long term answer.

WaynesWorld87
12-29-2019, 08:04 PM
Dude. It's the last game and doesn't really matter. You should calm down. You're gonna wind up with high blood pressure or risk of stoke or something
Fair enough. How much does going 7-9 improve our draft status?

Chromeburn
12-29-2019, 08:04 PM
Brisset has someone open and failed to see him.

We tried to sign Calais Campbell and the Jags outbid us.

Chromeburn
12-29-2019, 08:05 PM
Fair enough. How much does going 7-9 improve our draft status?

Could be the difference between 10 and 16

Brylok
12-29-2019, 08:06 PM
Colts need to sign Nguankwe or however you spell it. JAX #91. He wants 22 to 24 million and we can afford it

Colt Classic
12-29-2019, 08:06 PM
Brisset has someone open and failed to see him.

We tried to sign Calais Campbell and the Jags outbid us.

Inexcusable with all of the money they are sitting on and very little pressure against the pass this year.

RCAChainGang
12-29-2019, 08:06 PM
KC was very secretive about their intention to draft a QB when Ballard was there and they traded up for Mahomes. I fully expect the coach speak that Jacoby is their QB, but also think we use a meaningful pick (first 3 rounds) on a developmental guy behind him.

Colt Classic
12-29-2019, 08:07 PM
Colts need to sign Nguankwe or however you spell it. JAX #91. He wants 22 to 24 million and we can afford it

No way--Ballard will go shopping in the clearance section so he can sit on 90 million for re-signing their own. If only some of their own was worth keeping.

Brylok
12-29-2019, 08:09 PM
Colts gave Luck 24 million for free. I'd rather pay that to Ngankwe

WaynesWorld87
12-29-2019, 08:10 PM
Could be the difference between 10 and 16
Then lose baby, lose!

WaynesWorld87
12-29-2019, 08:11 PM
No way--Ballard will go shopping in the clearance section so he can sit on 90 million for re-signing their own. If only some of their own was worth keeping.
There's, like, 2 players on defense worth keeping. If he sits on the mountain load of cap space without signing some potential defensive difference makers, the fan base will start to turn on him over the course of next season.

Brylok
12-29-2019, 08:13 PM
Now it's bloody embarrassing. Just pack it in already. Dreadful

Thorgrim
12-29-2019, 08:16 PM
Then lose baby, lose!

We are going to be in nice shape on draft day. The loss by Washington today just sweetens the pot in the second round. It’s still hard to watch such a disgusting performance against a garbage team.

Puck
12-29-2019, 08:18 PM
Then lose baby, lose!

The other good thing is Jaggoff may keep Maroon now..... had we won... who knows

jasperhobbs
12-29-2019, 08:19 PM
There is no doubt, Brissett is not the answer

RCAChainGang
12-29-2019, 08:20 PM
There is no doubt, Brissett is not the answer

Get ready for Reich and Ballard to stand behind him and say they are rolling with him. Doesn't mean it is true.

Chromeburn
12-29-2019, 08:30 PM
Inexcusable with all of the money they are sitting on and very little pressure against the pass this year.

This was a couple years ago. I think Pags last season

Brylok
12-29-2019, 08:32 PM
Man oh man is there a lot of work to do in the off season. It's going to be hard to stomach Brisket starting again next year, I'm not gonna lie. At least this season is over now

njcoltfan
12-29-2019, 08:43 PM
Then lose baby, lose!

According to Colts Wire, the Colts have the 13th pick in this year’s draft.

njcoltfan
12-29-2019, 08:50 PM
According to Colts Wire, the Colts have the 13th pick in this year’s draft.
They also have the Redskins second round pick which is # 34, along with their own #45. This could be a great draft.

Spike
12-29-2019, 09:08 PM
Man oh man is there a lot of work to do in the off season. It's going to be hard to stomach Brisket starting again next year, I'm not gonna lie. At least this season is over now

Yeah, not looking forward to it. I've seen enough of JB, more than enough.

dwilli57
12-29-2019, 09:51 PM
My greatest fear is that JB will have a monster game and the Colts staff will have the confidence to make him our franchise QB going forward.

Problem solved. And I didn't even watch the shitshow.

JAFF
12-29-2019, 10:21 PM
Problem solved. And I didn't even watch the shitshow.

Lucky you

Chromeburn
12-29-2019, 10:40 PM
I doubt it. He may start nest year, but if the Colts believe JB is a franchise QB, we are fucked as Colt fans.

I’m ok if he starts, as long as we have some plan in place for the future at the position. They didn’t have a chance to do anything with Luck’s announcement. Now they have an off season.

Dam8610
12-30-2019, 09:48 AM
Picks 12, 53, and 56 were enough for the Bills to move up to 7 to draft Josh Allen. Judging by that trade, picks 13, 34, and 45 should be enough to get the Colts into the top 3, and might even be enough to get to 1. I haven't extensively studied this QB class yet, but if the Colts have a QB they think can be the guy, now is the time to mortgage the draft capital to go get him.

Maniac
12-30-2019, 10:59 AM
Picks 12, 53, and 56 were enough for the Bills to move up to 7 to draft Josh Allen. Judging by that trade, picks 13, 34, and 45 should be enough to get the Colts into the top 3, and might even be enough to get to 1. I haven't extensively studied this QB class yet, but if the Colts have a QB they think can be the guy, now is the time to mortgage the draft capital to go get him.

Bengals are not going to give up the #1 pick. They have the same huge need for a QB that we do. The value of those picks you mentioned isn't enough to get there anyway. If you want the #1 pick, you usually have to give up more than the draft value chart dictates, not less.

That said, I don't think we move up. We have A LOT of needs, and we need those picks to fill those needs.

HoosierinFL
12-30-2019, 11:34 AM
Burrow would almost be worth it, but you’d have to package this years first and both second rounders, next years first, and probably JB too.

Luck4Reich
12-30-2019, 11:43 AM
Burrow would almost be worth it, but you’d have to package this years first and both second rounders, next years first, and probably JB too.

That's not happening.... but I wouldn't care about losing JB..he sucks.

Hoopsdoc
12-30-2019, 12:41 PM
Burrow would almost be worth it, but you’d have to package this years first and both second rounders, next years first, and probably JB too.

That would suck, but you HAVE to have a franchise type quarterback to compete in today’s NFL.

Chaka
12-30-2019, 12:47 PM
Burrow would almost be worth it, but you’d have to package this years first and both second rounders, next years first, and probably JB too.

For a franchise QB, I’d make that trade in a heartbeat. But I think the price might be higher if Burrow fits that bill.

rcubed
12-30-2019, 01:23 PM
Here is the draft order ahead of us and my thoughts on whether they draft a QB.

Cincinnati - Yes
Washington- No
Detroit - Yes
NY Giants - No
Miami - ??? what do they do with Rosen
LA Chargers - Probably draft a QB
Carolina - No
Arizona - No
Jacksonville - Probably not
Cleveland - No
NY Jets - No
Oakland - Maybe/No. Gruden doesnt seem to like rookie QBs
Indianapolis - HOPE SO!!

so I have 2 yes, 1 probable, and 1 question mark ahead of us for drafting QBs (obviously not taking into account other teams trading up). with that scenario I think we would need to trade up in front of chargers as I dont think we would be able to go ahead of Detroit. however, knowing how ballard likes his picks I would guess we stay at our current spot and see if one of the QBs drops to us

Chromeburn
12-30-2019, 01:41 PM
Burrow would almost be worth it, but you’d have to package this years first and both second rounders, next years first, and probably JB too.

I have to admit that Burrow looks exactly like the type of QB for this offense. Accurate and decisive, elusive in the pocket and can move to extend the play if necessary. He find his correct option with ease. His accuracy is outstanding. His arm isn't the strongest but it is more than adequate and he throws with good touch.

I don't think the Bengals will listent to offers. They have been mediocre for too long to trade the pick. But if they were to listen, I would throw a package their way. Honestly, trading a bunch of picks does suck, but you can supplement through free agency and if you get a franchise QB it could last you 10+ years at the position. We have a lot of pieces in place already. I know this is counter to Ballard's style, exact opposite really, but things change a little when you needa QB.

Also Hurts looked awful. I would not look in his direction. Trying to find a bargain at the position doesn't usually work. Plus the years you have to spend to figure out if he is good. This may end up being Ballard's most important off-season of his career.

Chromeburn
12-30-2019, 02:24 PM
I disagree a little


Cincinnati - Yes
Washington- No
Detroit - No
NY Giants - No
Miami - Yes, but with which pick?
LA Chargers - Yes
Carolina - Yes/Maybe
Arizona - No
Jacksonville - Depends what option is there. But I think they may roll with Minshew
Cleveland - No
NY Jets - No
Oakland - Gruden wants a coach on the field like Gannon was. Herbert is pretty smart, might be a possibility here.
Indianapolis - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


I think there are a lot more teams looking for QB's in front of us. This is why mediocrity sucks when looking for a QB. I think Burrow, Tua, and Herbert could all be gone by the time we pick.

Puck
12-30-2019, 03:02 PM
I disagree a little


Cincinnati - Yes
Washington- No
Detroit - No
NY Giants - No
Miami - Yes, but with which pick?
LA Chargers - Yes
Carolina - Yes/Maybe
Arizona - No
Jacksonville - Depends what option is there. But I think they may roll with Minshew
Cleveland - No
NY Jets - No
Oakland - Gruden wants a coach on the field like Gannon was. Herbert is pretty smart, might be a possibility here.
Indianapolis - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


I think there are a lot more teams looking for QB's in front of us. This is why mediocrity sucks when looking for a QB. I think Burrow, Tua, and Herbert could all be gone by the time we pick.


Agree Detroit is not taking a QB. But if one is there they like then Ballard should make a trade for Stafford. Not sure how much that would take considering they owe him a ton next season.

rcubed
12-30-2019, 03:28 PM
my bad - for some reason I thought staffords contact was up on detroit. so I would change that to a NO as well.

I think carolina sticks with grier unless tua is there...

dwilli57
12-30-2019, 04:57 PM
I disagree a little


Cincinnati - Yes
Washington- No
Detroit - No
NY Giants - No
Miami - Yes, but with which pick?
LA Chargers - Yes
Carolina - Yes/Maybe
Arizona - No
Jacksonville - Depends what option is there. But I think they may roll with Minshew
Cleveland - No
NY Jets - No
Oakland - Gruden wants a coach on the field like Gannon was. Herbert is pretty smart, might be a possibility here.
Indianapolis - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


I think there are a lot more teams looking for QB's in front of us. This is why mediocrity sucks when looking for a QB. I think Burrow, Tua, and Herbert could all be gone by the time we pick.

PFF has a mock draft showing us taking Herbert. Not saying PFF is THE authority but he might be worth a look this week in the Rose Bowl.

Colt Classic
12-30-2019, 05:35 PM
PFF has a mock draft showing us taking Herbert. Not saying PFF is THE authority but he might be worth a look this week in the Rose Bowl.

Oh boy, an Oregon quarterback.

JAFF
12-30-2019, 05:45 PM
Oh boy, an Oregon quarterback.

Yeah it would suck to get some one like Dan Fouts

dwilli57
12-30-2019, 05:48 PM
Oh boy, an Oregon quarterback.

HAHA agree but if you think you're getting one from LSU or ALA let me know your connection bc im looking for some fresh smoke.

Colt Classic
12-30-2019, 06:56 PM
Yeah it would suck to get some one like Dan Fouts

MUCH more recently, Akili Smith or Marcus Mariotta. Although we should probably look for a QB from Navy since Roger Staubach went there.

Colt Classic
12-30-2019, 07:04 PM
HAHA agree but if you think you're getting one from LSU or ALA let me know your connection bc im looking for some fresh smoke.

For the cost, I wouldn't want them. There isn't much in free agency either. If I had to choose, I guess I'd take Bridgewater, but I haven't followed him much to see if he's any better than status quo.

JAFF
12-30-2019, 07:14 PM
MUCH more recently, Akili Smith or Marcus Mariotta. Although we should probably look for a QB from Navy since Roger Staubach went there.

Wilson and Brees were not first round draft picks. Neither was Brady or Garrapollo. Aaron Rodgers was out of Cal, bottom of the first round.

Maybe we should look into Mitch Trubiski?

Maniac
12-30-2019, 07:44 PM
Rumors are that Gruden wants to go a different direction at QB. If he does, then I would be for the Colts getting Carr until we hit on one in the draft. He's better than Brisket.

Chromeburn
12-31-2019, 12:28 AM
Rumors are that Gruden wants to go a different direction at QB. If he does, then I would be for the Colts getting Carr until we hit on one in the draft. He's better than Brisket.

The only thing going for us there is Gruden prefers vets over rookies. But his contract is so long he might be willing to break in a rookie.

Chromeburn
12-31-2019, 12:33 AM
Wilson and Brees were not first round draft picks. Neither was Brady or Garrapollo. Aaron Rodgers was out of Cal, bottom of the first round.

Maybe we should look into Mitch Trubiski?

You forgot to mention Lamar Jackson. You are naming outliers, this has been broken down before. Best chance to get a franchise QB is in the top 15 picks, after that the odds start dropping, and once out of the first round they drop dramatically.

Feel free to identify the next outlier in this group though.

Another thing to note is a QB that gets drafted later usually goes to a better team as opposed to a crappy team at the top of the draft. Easing that transition to the NFL can help a lot.

kitekrazy
12-31-2019, 01:41 AM
Wilson and Brees were not first round draft picks. Neither was Brady or Garrapollo. Aaron Rodgers was out of Cal, bottom of the first round.

Maybe we should look into Mitch Trubiski?


While you are bringing up needles in a haystack, Johnny Unitas was cut by the Steelers.

LOL, your last sentence has to be sarcasm.

Dam8610
12-31-2019, 03:03 AM
Since we're talking QBs, anyone else have thoughts on Jacob Eason? I watched a few games and came away very impressed. He routinely made NFL caliber throws and ball placements, showed the ability to escape pressure and extend plays, and ran an offense very similar to Reich's. The biggest difference I saw between Eason and Burrow was the quality of talent surrounding them.

jasperhobbs
12-31-2019, 07:27 AM
Rumors are that Gruden wants to go a different direction at QB. If he does, then I would be for the Colts getting Carr until we hit on one in the draft. He's better than Brisket.

I wonder if Gruden would dump Carr and bring in Tom Brady

JAFF
12-31-2019, 08:22 AM
While you are bringing up needles in a haystack, Johnny Unitas was cut by the Steelers.

LOL, your last sentence has to be sarcasm.

Brees was not a needle in a haystack. All Wilson has done is win. Did that in college too.

You can find talented leaders past the first 15 picks. What was the knock on Brees and Wilson? Too short.

Half of the Colts fans wanted Leaf instead of Manning. Why? He was the better athlete. His 10 cent head is what held him back.

They need a smart guy who can react quickly to defensive reads and has a better than average arm with great accuracy.

The most successful QBs have brains as well as athletic ability. Why has Fitzpatrick hung around all these years? Smart enough to read defenses and make plays.

And yes, the Tribisky comment was sarcasm. All american athlete, 5 and dime head

Chromeburn
12-31-2019, 11:36 AM
Since we're talking QBs, anyone else have thoughts on Jacob Eason? I watched a few games and came away very impressed. He routinely made NFL caliber throws and ball placements, showed the ability to escape pressure and extend plays, and ran an offense very similar to Reich's. The biggest difference I saw between Eason and Burrow was the quality of talent surrounding them.

There isn't a large body of work for him. Supposedly he progressed very well at Georgia under their OC, but still got beat out by Fromm. He fits the eye test and the arm strength. I read a rumor that he had still not learned the whole playbook at Washington, but that was a rumor and could be completely false. If he isn't smart enough it will come out in the interviews and tests. Frankly as a fan its hard to evaluate the QB's because we are missing the most important part which is the interview.

Mr. Session
12-31-2019, 11:43 AM
There isn't a large body of work for him. Supposedly he progressed very well at Georgia under their OC, but still got beat out by Fromm. He fits the eye test and the arm strength. I read a rumor that he had still not learned the whole playbook at Washington, but that was a rumor and could be completely false. If he isn't smart enough it will come out in the interviews and tests. Frankly as a fan its hard to evaluate the QB's because we are missing the most important part which is the interview.

If he couldn’t beat Fromm I have little faith in him. Fromm is not that good.

Am I retarded for thinking we should consider Rivers?

Spike
12-31-2019, 12:32 PM
If he couldn’t beat Fromm I have little faith in him. Fromm is not that good.

Am I retarded for thinking we should consider Rivers?

No way do I want Rivers on the Colts. He's done, stick a fork in him.

Chromeburn
12-31-2019, 01:03 PM
If he couldn’t beat Fromm I have little faith in him. Fromm is not that good.

Am I retarded for thinking we should consider Rivers?

I think he is done. He struggled mightily this year.

rm1369
12-31-2019, 01:50 PM
I think he is done. He struggled mightily this year.

Completely agree, but even if he had a little left I’m just not sure I could cheer for that guy. He has one of the most punchable faces I’ve ever seen. I’m sure the Colts struggles against SD don’t help, but fuck that guy. I’d rather have another year of Brissett than cheer for Rivers.

rcubed
12-31-2019, 02:01 PM
no rivers. I would be open to carr if he is available without trading any assets.

Colts And Orioles
12-31-2019, 03:45 PM
If he couldn’t beat Fromm I have little faith in him. Fromm is not that good.

Am I retarded for thinking we should consider Rivers?



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It's not at all retarded, but I think that it would be too risky ........ I wouldn't be surprised if Rivers had a couple of 4,000-or-more-yard/30-or-more TD pass seasons left in him, but I also wouldn't be surprised if he was done. Hence, I would rather go with either a high draft pick out of college and/or another proven commodity whom is at least 4 or 5 years younger than Rivers if we aren't going to simply ride out Jacoby Brissett for one final year.

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Dam8610
12-31-2019, 04:09 PM
There isn't a large body of work for him. Supposedly he progressed very well at Georgia under their OC, but still got beat out by Fromm. He fits the eye test and the arm strength. I read a rumor that he had still not learned the whole playbook at Washington, but that was a rumor and could be completely false. If he isn't smart enough it will come out in the interviews and tests. Frankly as a fan its hard to evaluate the QB's because we are missing the most important part which is the interview.

Eason didn't get beat out by Fromm, really. He suffered a knee injury, then Georgia was winning with Fromm so they never went back to him. I've also heard the rumors about his work ethic, and if they're true, Ballard likely won't draft him, but the pure talent comes through on the tape.

If he couldn’t beat Fromm I have little faith in him. Fromm is not that good.

Am I retarded for thinking we should consider Rivers?


Joe Burrow couldn't beat out a guy who went on to play WR in the NFL at Ohio State, but the Bengals are probably going to draft him.

I'd rather roll with Brisket than bring that asshole Rivers in.

Maniac
12-31-2019, 04:14 PM
Joe Burrow couldn't beat out a guy who went on to play WR in the NFL at Ohio State, but the Bengals are probably going to draft him.



Really? Because surely he hasn't improved since then. :rolleyes:

Racehorse
12-31-2019, 06:19 PM
Really? Because surely he hasn't improved since then. :rolleyes:

I think you are making his point for him.

Maniac
12-31-2019, 07:29 PM
I think you are making his point for him.

Oh ok, gotcha. I may have misunderstood his point when I first read it.

JAFF
12-31-2019, 10:03 PM
If he couldn’t beat Fromm I have little faith in him. Fromm is not that good.

Am I retarded for thinking we should consider Rivers?

Did you see how he played this last year?

Chromeburn
12-31-2019, 10:09 PM
Eason didn't get beat out by Fromm, really. He suffered a knee injury, then Georgia was winning with Fromm so they never went back to him. I've also heard the rumors about his work ethic, and if they're true, Ballard likely won't draft him, but the pure talent comes through on the tape.

Joe Burrow couldn't beat out a guy who went on to play WR in the NFL at Ohio State, but the Bengals are probably going to draft him.

I'd rather roll with Brisket than bring that asshole Rivers in.


Yeah, Eason got hurt initially. But he wasn’t able to get the job back once healthy. Then he transferred back to his home state.