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omahacolt
10-20-2019, 07:48 PM
1). Best game Brissett has played. He is still late on passes. Not allowing yac st times. But you can’t complain much today. Dude did what he had to.

2). Oline wasn’t impressive today. Brissett took hits and there was no run game at all. The run game was the most worrisome. We need to be able to impose our will on the ground. Brissett won’t beat many teams with his arm.

3). Would have liked to have seen more Wilkins today.

4). Finally a wr stepped up. Thank you pascal. Does Cain exist?

5). Ebron had his big boy pants on today. Great to see. He is too good to be irrelevant

6). The dline isn’t good. Ballard needs to spend some cash here.

7. Lbers made some plays today and struggled as well. Really not understanding the lack of plays for Leonard. He was everywhere last year. Not so much this year.

8). Willis is a player. Not a perfect game but you can just see that he has some special abilities.

9). At times Milligan was playing slot corner with another safety over top. Thought that was interesting

10. Got to give the d coaches a lot of credit. They have been doing wonders with limited talent

ChoppedWood
10-20-2019, 07:52 PM
1). Best game Brissett has played. He is still late on passes. Not allowing yac st times. But you can’t complain much today. Dude did what he had to.

2). Oline wasn’t impressive today. Brissett took hits and there was no run game at all. The run game was the most worrisome. We need to be able to impose our will on the ground. Brissett won’t beat many teams with his arm.

3). Would have liked to have seen more Wilkins today.

4). Finally a wr stepped up. Thank you pascal. Does Cain exist?

5). Ebron had his big boy pants on today. Great to see. He is too good to be irrelevant

6). The dline isn’t good. Ballard needs to spend some cash here.

7. Lbers made some plays today and struggled as well. Really not understanding the lack of plays for Leonard. He was everywhere last year. Not so much this year.

8). Willis is a player. Not a perfect game but you can just see that he has some special abilities.

9). At times Milligan was playing slot corner with another safety over top. Thought that was interesting

10. Got to give the d coaches a lot of credit. They have been doing wonders with limited talent

Thought this was a bad game for Mack. Looked like there were some bad reads on what appeared to be big holes / gaps- but that's also seeing it from an above the field wide angle lens.

Leonard is doing some things that aren't real good- that late complete head tuck whiff was flat out bad. Hopefully this late game impact play lights his engine.

Willis will end up taking the starting spot no question.

Love Sheard, tough tough contain guy, but man we need more speed off that edge.

Racehorse
10-20-2019, 07:53 PM
1). Best game Brissett has played. He is still late on passes. Not allowing yac st times. But you can’t complain much today. Dude did what he had to.

2). Oline wasn’t impressive today. Brissett took hits and there was no run game at all. The run game was the most worrisome. We need to be able to impose our will on the ground. Brissett won’t beat many teams with his arm.

3). Would have liked to have seen more Wilkins today.

4). Finally a wr stepped up. Thank you pascal. Does Cain exist?

5). Ebron had his big boy pants on today. Great to see. He is too good to be irrelevant

6). The dline isn’t good. Ballard needs to spend some cash here.

7. Lbers made some plays today and struggled as well. Really not understanding the lack of plays for Leonard. He was everywhere last year. Not so much this year.

8). Willis is a player. Not a perfect game but you can just see that he has some special abilities.

9). At times Milligan was playing slot corner with another safety over top. Thought that was interesting

10. Got to give the d coaches a lot of credit. They have been doing wonders with limited talent

Regarding number 2, I think the Texicans have one of the best DLs in the league, so it would be very hard to impose your will against them.

Racehorse
10-20-2019, 07:56 PM
I will add that the rookies who are playing have abilities to impact this team well. So are those who are in year 2. Add in Pascal as a third year WR, and the core is very young and has the potential to be very good.

Pez
10-20-2019, 08:37 PM
I can't say enough about Pascal, he had a fantastic game, we needed someone to step up and he did so in a huge way.

Was cain even targeted?

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JAFF
10-20-2019, 08:46 PM
1). Best game Brissett has played. He is still late on passes. Not allowing yac st times. But you can’t complain much today. Dude did what he had to.

2). Oline wasn’t impressive today. Brissett took hits and there was no run game at all. The run game was the most worrisome. We need to be able to impose our will on the ground. Brissett won’t beat many teams with his arm.

3). Would have liked to have seen more Wilkins today.

4). Finally a wr stepped up. Thank you pascal. Does Cain exist?

5). Ebron had his big boy pants on today. Great to see. He is too good to be irrelevant

6). The dline isn’t good. Ballard needs to spend some cash here.

7. Lbers made some plays today and struggled as well. Really not understanding the lack of plays for Leonard. He was everywhere last year. Not so much this year.

8). Willis is a player. Not a perfect game but you can just see that he has some special abilities.

9). At times Milligan was playing slot corner with another safety over top. Thought that was interesting

10. Got to give the d coaches a lot of credit. They have been doing wonders with limited talent

1. the longer Brisset holds the ball, the harder it is on the o line

2. see above

3. I agree

4. As long as someone does step up

5. Yes

6. D line gave up 100 yds on the ground. 2 INTs and 3 sacks. The prevent at the end didn't help, but it works as much as I hate it.

7. Leonard had a deflected pass early and was a pain in the ass all day. 10 tackles 7 solo

8. agree

9. agree

10. absolutely

omahacolt
10-20-2019, 08:58 PM
I can't say enough about Pascal, he had a fantastic game, we needed someone to step up and he did so in a huge way.

Was cain even targeted?

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Cain was not targeted

YDFL Commish
10-20-2019, 09:24 PM
Cain was not targeted

Hell, was he even on the field?

JAFF
10-20-2019, 09:43 PM
Hell, was he even on the field?

Only if he was short, rectangular and orange, he could have been in any corner of the endzones

Pez
10-20-2019, 10:11 PM
Cain was not targetedBummer, just wasteful. We need funchess back.

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omahacolt
10-20-2019, 10:30 PM
Hell, was he even on the field?

I don’t think much but I saw him a couple times. Had company over so I was distracted some.

smitty46953
10-20-2019, 11:22 PM
Adam Vinatieri to Eric Ebron: “That was one of the top 25 catches I’ve seen” on his TD.

Ebron responded: “That means a lot since you’ve been playing 85 years:”

:cool:

Hoopsdoc
10-20-2019, 11:24 PM
I don’t think much but I saw him a couple times. Had company over so I was distracted some.

Damn son, I hope it was the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders you had over. Otherwise, no excuse for getting distracted from Colts football

Chromeburn
10-21-2019, 01:13 AM
Houston has one of the best run d’s in the league. With Clowney gone they are better. We weren’t going to run on them today. We needed to pass to win. Still Mack was a few shoe strings away from breaking one. I like Mack but just don’t think he is elite, wonder what a elite back would do behind this line.

Jacoby looked pretty good, sans that bad fumble. His underneath game needs a little more work though, some more touch on those short throws. Big armed QBs often have that issue. RBs aren’t going to catch missiles. I also want him to speed up his reads. Still he is safe with the ball and makes decent decisions. I wonder what he will look like next year. Will he progress? Still a good day and what he needed.

We need to find a second receiver to our next to TY. TY is nearing the end of his career and never really had a running mate except for Reggie for a bit. I wonder how Funchess will look when he gets back.

This team beat a good Houston team. I think they are a better team than last year. It was a good solid win.

apballin
10-21-2019, 06:06 AM
Another solid effort by the defense even without Hooker and Moore

Johanvil
10-21-2019, 07:41 AM
Kinda shocked to see we had zero rushing 1st downs. I know we never got our running game going but still...

Dam8610
10-21-2019, 09:29 AM
Kinda shocked to see we had zero rushing 1st downs. I know we never got our running game going but still...

Their secondary was highly depleted and their front 7 is incredibly stout. I was actually impressed with the offense's ability to completely adapt and attack the opposing defense's weakness, which they also did against Kansas City.

rcubed
10-21-2019, 09:35 AM
Good win.

JB did well overall. Needs to work on hitting receivers in stride better.

Nice game by paschal.


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rm1369
10-21-2019, 10:02 AM
Their secondary was highly depleted and their front 7 is incredibly stout. I was actually impressed with the offense's ability to completely adapt and attack the opposing defense's weakness, which they also did against Kansas City.

This was one of the most impressive things to me. And one of the most encouraging. They didn’t figure it out after they went 3 and out 5 times trying to force the run and got behind because of it. They came out attacking the known weakness of the defense. The “do what we do” philosophy would have dictated they force the run - especially since it worked so well in the big win the previous game. That they adapted to the opponent is the sign of good coaching.

Pez
10-21-2019, 10:12 AM
Kinda shocked to see we had zero rushing 1st downs. I know we never got our running game going but still...

I think Reich approached this game by trying to open up the running with the passing game. Houston stuck with their game plan: "Dont let them run the damn ball."

Look at the first drive:

12 plays
9 passes
5 passes on 1st down
2 passed on second down

Houston dared us to pass the ball and we executed. I'm surprised that we didn't get more rushing In the second half, but it seemed like Houston stuck with their plan and kept stacking the box instead of adjusting. Classic Pagano.

ChoppedWood
10-21-2019, 12:15 PM
Kinda shocked to see we had zero rushing 1st downs. I know we never got our running game going but still...

On the opposite end, Jacoby was exceptional on 3rd down most of the game, and they were generally long 3rd downs this game. We had that really crappy stretch mid 4th Q that hurt that momentum but until then he was fantastic at finding the right guy to get the 1st down and keep drives alive.

VeveJones007
10-21-2019, 12:33 PM
Houston has one of the best run d’s in the league. With Clowney gone they are better. We weren’t going to run on them today. We needed to pass to win. Still Mack was a few shoe strings away from breaking one. I like Mack but just don’t think he is elite, wonder what a elite back would do behind this line.

Jacoby looked pretty good, sans that bad fumble. His underneath game needs a little more work though, some more touch on those short throws. Big armed QBs often have that issue. RBs aren’t going to catch missiles. I also want him to speed up his reads. Still he is safe with the ball and makes decent decisions. I wonder what he will look like next year. Will he progress? Still a good day and what he needed.

We need to find a second receiver to our next to TY. TY is nearing the end of his career and never really had a running mate except for Reggie for a bit. I wonder how Funchess will look when he gets back.

This team beat a good Houston team. I think they are a better team than last year. It was a good solid win.

The Colts really missed Funchess in the 4th quarter yesterday. Hilton and the other receivers aren't going to consistently beat press quickly enough in zero blitz and cover 1 situations. The Texans were throwing the kitchen sink at Brissett and the OL at times in the 4th and the Colts needed a guy like Funchess who can win quickly due to his size and strength.

VeveJones007
10-21-2019, 12:34 PM
On the opposite end, Jacoby was exceptional on 3rd down most of the game, and they were generally long 3rd downs this game. We had that really crappy stretch mid 4th Q that hurt that momentum but until then he was fantastic at finding the right guy to get the 1st down and keep drives alive.

See my comment above related to the 4th quarter. This offense won't always miss Funchess, but that's one of the situations where they really need him back. The Colts would've iced that game with 10 minutes to spare if they had Funchess.

ChoppedWood
10-21-2019, 12:44 PM
See my comment above related to the 4th quarter. This offense won't always miss Funchess, but that's one of the situations where they really need him back. The Colts would've iced that game with 10 minutes to spare if they had Funchess.

I agree with that which sort of highlights the fact that Cain is a ghost at present. He's a bigger guy but apparently can't run a 5 yard slant and get his body between QB and DB I guess- which Funchess certainly can.

On the radio this morning they said to expect to hear about Funchess in limited practice this week gearing up for a return against Jags off IR. Man I hope so.

Chromeburn
10-21-2019, 12:49 PM
Hell, was he even on the field?

He was on the field for 30+ snaps. Apparently it’s a route running and trust issue. Cain is just going to have to work on his game and build that chemistry with Jacoby.

Chromeburn
10-21-2019, 12:55 PM
Their secondary was highly depleted and their front 7 is incredibly stout. I was actually impressed with the offense's ability to completely adapt and attack the opposing defense's weakness, which they also did against Kansas City.

Right, we attacked their weakness, which is what I think we should do. One dimensional teams get shut down. Opposing teams need to worry what we will do and that we are capable of being multi-dimensional. It will just make our running game that much better. Jacoby has a few more games like this one and teams will be worrying about the pass just as much.

VeveJones007
10-21-2019, 12:56 PM
He was on the field for 30+ snaps. Apparently it’s a route running and trust issue. Cain is just going to have to work on his game and build that chemistry with Jacoby.

From what I've seen on the All 22's, Cain isn't getting open often enough.

Chromeburn
10-21-2019, 01:03 PM
The Colts really missed Funchess in the 4th quarter yesterday. Hilton and the other receivers aren't going to consistently beat press quickly enough in zero blitz and cover 1 situations. The Texans were throwing the kitchen sink at Brissett and the OL at times in the 4th and the Colts needed a guy like Funchess who can win quickly due to his size and strength.

Yup, that’s likely where JB goes in press man situations for those 50/50 balls. Funchess is still an unknown to me, I just want to see him on the field. If he can be that contested ball receiver I will be pretty happy with the offense overall.

Chromeburn
10-21-2019, 01:09 PM
From what I've seen on the All 22's, Cain isn't getting open often enough.

To me, that’s route running. Making your routes look the same until your cut. Doing little fakes to throw off the corner. Also just coming off a knee injury, he may still lack confidence in his agility. I’m just not expecting a ton from Cain. It’s rare for rookie WR to do well, that’s why what Terry Maclaurin is doing in Washington is so impressive. I wanted to draft that kid, he tore up the senior bowl.

Luck4Reich
10-21-2019, 01:36 PM
To me, that’s route running. Making your routes look the same until your cut. Doing little fakes to throw off the corner. Also just coming off a knee injury, he may still lack confidence in his agility. I’m just not expecting a ton from Cain. It’s rare for rookie WR to do well, that’s why what Terry Maclaurin is doing in Washington is so impressive. I wanted to draft that kid, he tore up the senior bowl.

Exactly... it's rather rare for a rookie WR to put up strong #s... some dont really get going until year 3.

27 receptions 345 yards. 0 TDs who did this rookie season belong to?

None other than Reggie Wayne.

VeveJones007
10-21-2019, 01:39 PM
To me, that’s route running. Making your routes look the same until your cut. Doing little fakes to throw off the corner. Also just coming off a knee injury, he may still lack confidence in his agility. I’m just not expecting a ton from Cain. It’s rare for rookie WR to do well, that’s why what Terry Maclaurin is doing in Washington is so impressive. I wanted to draft that kid, he tore up the senior bowl.

He's also not beating the jam, so it isn't entirely route running.

Chaka
10-21-2019, 04:08 PM
5). Ebron had his big boy pants on today. Great to see. He is too good to be irrelevant


100% agree. He's dropped a few too many passes this year, but the guy is unquestionably a valuable player. Seems like a pretty good dude too, and loves being on the Colts. I know he's a bit demonstrative as I think you've mentioned before, but I don't find it too irritating as it usually seems good natured rather than arrogant.

Chromeburn
10-21-2019, 05:10 PM
Exactly... it's rather rare for a rookie WR to put up strong #s... some dont really get going until year 3.

27 receptions 345 yards. 0 TDs who did this rookie season belong to?

None other than Reggie Wayne.

People thought Reggie was a bust till what? Year 3? Some guys just take longer. Not that it has been a long time for Cain imo.

Chromeburn
10-21-2019, 05:11 PM
He's also not beating the jam, so it isn't entirely route running.

I would probably group that with route running also, but that's me. But yeah, he needs to learn how to handle physical corners at the line.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy
10-21-2019, 05:57 PM
5). Ebron had his big boy pants on today. Great to see. He is too good to be irrelevant




https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1186032627486281729

After a rocky month, asked Eric Ebron if he needed today (4 catches, 70 yds, 1 hurdle, 1 TD): "Absolutely. Just in a funk. I had a few talks with our HC and Jacoby. I told them to get me started early, allow me to be in the game, and I’ll go into a zone where no one can stop me."

omahacolt
10-21-2019, 09:08 PM
Damn son, I hope it was the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders you had over. Otherwise, no excuse for getting distracted from Colts football

It certainly wasn’t

omahacolt
10-21-2019, 09:09 PM
This was one of the most impressive things to me. And one of the most encouraging. They didn’t figure it out after they went 3 and out 5 times trying to force the run and got behind because of it. They came out attacking the known weakness of the defense. The “do what we do” philosophy would have dictated they force the run - especially since it worked so well in the big win the previous game. That they adapted to the opponent is the sign of good coaching.

Good post.

I agree completely

omahacolt
10-21-2019, 09:13 PM
People thought Reggie was a bust till what? Year 3? Some guys just take longer. Not that it has been a long time for Cain imo.

He showed promise year 2 but I think really started to get it together year 3

Chromeburn
10-21-2019, 10:40 PM
I see the Texans just traded for Gareon Conley. Trying to upgrade their corners.

Oldcolt
10-22-2019, 10:37 AM
Wanted to throw some love Sheard's way. He is not spectacular but his presence was sorely missed. I knew we missed him on run defense but he has really made a difference getting to the passer.

rcubed
10-22-2019, 11:25 AM
Wanted to throw some love Sheard's way. He is not spectacular but his presence was sorely missed. I knew we missed him on run defense but he has really made a difference getting to the passer.



Yep its nice having him back. On a side note dude cant be having long dreads with that receding hairline.


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Colt Classic
10-22-2019, 06:53 PM
oh he can...and he will. :o