We just signed Hoyer- 3 yr 12 M, 9M Guaranteed

[Workhorse]

The Colts signed Brian Hoyer to a 3 year $12 million deal.

[ChoppedWood]

I like the signing, but man that looks like we are making him our backup instead of a 2 game guy.

I do like the fact that's a new Pats QB- the systems look very similar...

[IndyNorm]

I like the signing, but man that looks like we are making him our backup instead of a 2 game guy.

I do like the fact that's a new Pats QB- the systems look very similar...

I agree. Like the signing but that's quite a bit of guaranteed cash. Think we may have gotten into a bit of a bidding war.

[Racehorse]

I agree. Like the signing but that's quite a bit of guaranteed cash. Think we may have gotten into a bit of a bidding war.

I see it as guaranteeing insurance in case Brissett flames out and Kelly stops taking his meds.

[Workhorse]

Since we don’t have cap issues, does a 3 year deal mean they may not extend Brissett?

[Hoopsdoc]

I see it as guaranteeing insurance in case Brissett flames out and Kelly stops taking his meds.

But Walker is on the practice squad. We’re not carrying 4 quarterbacks. Kelly looks like the odd man out to me.

[nate505]

Good. He's about the best competent backup the Colts could have got at this point in time.

[JAFF]

:(But Walker is on the practice squad. We’re not carrying 4 quarterbacks. Kelly looks like the odd man out to me.

Kelly cant be on the active roster. 2 game suspension. He may push someone off the PC when he returns

[Racehorse]

But Walker is on the practice squad. We’re not carrying 4 quarterbacks. Kelly looks like the odd man out to me.

If I recall it right, we have an extra CB and an extra RB on the roster now.

[Racehorse]

Since we don’t have cap issues, does a 3 year deal mean they may not extend Brissett?

It’s insurance just in case

[JAFF]

Since we don’t have cap issues, does a 3 year deal mean they may not extend Brissett?

No, it means:

1. They have a backup for the next 3 years
2. There were probably several teams who were interested, competition drives up the price
3. Brissett has an agent. Why would he take an extension now? If Brissett is betting on himself (and if hes going to be a great QB he should bet on himself) he will have the advantage in contract negotiations.
4. See above. If Brissett negotiations drag on, the team can still function.
5. Why give him a new contract now? What if he sucks. Colts have a sub 500 season, you trade up in the draft and get a qb. Cut jakob and you have hoyer until rookie is ready.

They sign Brissett to an extention I’d be shocked.

[Hoopsdoc]

:(

Kelly cant be on the active roster. 2 game suspension. He may push someone off the PC when he returns

But if you’re planning on signing Hoyer and keeping Kelly after the suspension, why sign Walker to the practice squad? It doesn’t make sense.

You sign Hoyer to be the backup, and if that falls through, THEN you sign Walker to the PS.

I’m thinking Kelly is not in the future plans either way.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

But if you’re planning on signing Hoyer and keeping Kelly after the suspension, why sign Walker to the practice squad? It doesn’t make sense.


Because you can easily release Walker from the practice squad?

Walker was released / signed back to the practice squad 8 times last season.


Also - at the time they signed Walker to the PS, Ballard hadn't decided who was going to be the back-up. The front office was weighing the pros / cons of a backup like Hoyer vs. a 2 game stop-gap to Kelly.

[Hoopsdoc]

Because you can easily release Walker from the practice squad?

Walker was released / signed back to the practice squad 8 times last season.


Also - at the time they signed Walker to the PS, Ballard hadn't decided who was going to be the back-up. The front office was weighing the pros / cons of a backup like Hoyer vs. a 2 game stop-gap to Kelly.

But if you’ve settled on Kelly as the backup and you’re not sure, but you think you might sign Hoyer, it still doesn’t make sense to waste a PS spot on Walker. As you said, he was off and on all year last year. He’s not going anywhere.

Put a guy like Gerri Green on the practice squad instead wasting a spot on Walker, a guy who isn’t sniffing any other roster. Instead, Walkers on the practice squad and Green is scooped up by New England.

It’s just weird and I think a telltale sign of how they view Kelly and Walker.

[Racehorse]

But if you’ve settled on Kelly as the backup and you’re not sure, but you think you might sign Hoyer, it still doesn’t make sense to waste a PS spot on Walker. As you said, he was off and on all year last year. He’s not going anywhere.

Put a guy like Gerri Green on the practice squad instead wasting a spot on Walker, a guy who isn’t sniffing any other roster. Instead, Walkers on the practice squad and Green is scooped up by New England.

It’s just weird and I think a telltale sign of how they view Kelly and Walker.

It is possible that Green was offered a spot and he was also offered other spots and chose to sign elsewhere to get a chance to play sooner.

[Dam8610]

Who was cut to sign Hoyer?

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Put a guy like Gerri Green on the practice squad instead wasting a spot on Walker, a guy who isn’t sniffing any other roster. Instead, Walkers on the practice squad and Green is scooped up by New England.




There are currently open spots on the practice squad. Walker is not preventing the signing of another player to the squad as it stands right now.

Green chose to sign with the Cheats. I guess Green or his agent thought there is a clearer pathway to playing time with them. The Colts had hoped to sign Green to their practice squad.

https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/status/1168212033113866240

Sixth-round DE Gerri Green is headed to the Patriots practice squad, per source

https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/status/1168213524621008897

Colts did want him back, I was told.

[IndyNorm]

I see it as guaranteeing insurance in case Brissett flames out and Kelly stops taking his meds.

I think you're right, and Hoyer's contract probably means we'll be keeping him at least 2 seasons. Hope we still hang onto Kelly unless he screws up again.

[Hoopsdoc]

There are currently open spots on the practice squad. Walker is not preventing the signing of another player to the squad as it stands right now.

Green chose to sign with the Cheats. I guess Green or his agent thought there is a clearer pathway to playing time with them. The Colts had hoped to sign Green to their practice squad.

https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/status/1168212033113866240



https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/status/1168213524621008897

But if Walkers not in your future plans, you don’t sign him at all.

Edit-I suppose they’re thinking they’ll hold on to Walker until week 3, then release him and replace him with Kelly. That way, the Chargers or whoever we play in week 2 can’t sign him just for our game. That makes sense.

[VeveJones007]

Rule of thumb: any 3 year NFL deal is really a 1 year deal with two team options. This in no way guarantees Hoyer is a Colt last 2019.

[Chromeburn]

I like the signing, but man that looks like we are making him our backup instead of a 2 game guy.

I do like the fact that's a new Pats QB- the systems look very similar...

He is our backup, you don’t sign a guy like that if you want him for two games. It makes sense. He knows Jacoby, so they should work well together in the QB room.

[denvercoltfan]

But if you’re planning on signing Hoyer and keeping Kelly after the suspension, why sign Walker to the practice squad? It doesn’t make sense.

You sign Hoyer to be the backup, and if that falls through, THEN you sign Walker to the PS.

I’m thinking Kelly is not in the future plans either way.

they put Walker on the PS before they knew that'd get Hoyer which made sense (to have 2 Qb's for the first 2 games). after week 2, it's extremely unlikely Walker will be on the PS.

[JAFF]

But if you’ve settled on Kelly as the backup and you’re not sure, but you think you might sign Hoyer, it still doesn’t make sense to waste a PS spot on Walker. As you said, he was off and on all year last year. He’s not going anywhere.

Put a guy like Gerri Green on the practice squad instead wasting a spot on Walker, a guy who isn’t sniffing any other roster. Instead, Walkers on the practice squad and Green is scooped up by New England.

It’s just weird and I think a telltale sign of how they view Kelly and Walker.

2 Qbs on the roster, one on the PS is not unusual. They need an extra arm for practice. Its not that big of a deal. Kelly comes back they probably cut walker.

[Chromeburn]

There are currently open spots on the practice squad. Walker is not preventing the signing of another player to the squad as it stands right now.

Green chose to sign with the Cheats. I guess Green or his agent thought there is a clearer pathway to playing time with them. The Colts had hoped to sign Green to their practice squad.

https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/status/1168212033113866240



https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/status/1168213524621008897

Might get a ring just sitting on the squad. If your going to sit on one, might as well take that extra chance you win.

[JAFF]

News link

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-indianapolis-colts-sign-ex-patriots-qb-brian-hoyer/ar-AAGHiot

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Who was cut to sign Hoyer?


The Colts waived S Rolan Milligan as the corresponding roster move.


https://twitter.com/Colts/status/1168608708059963392

We have signed QB Brian Hoyer and waived S Rolan Milligan.

[JAFF]

No, it means:


They sign Brissett to an extention I’d be shocked.

I'm shocked

[Luck4Reich]

I'm shocked

Why shocked at what makes sense?

[JAFF]

Why shocked at what makes sense?

He plays well, and they can't sign him to an extention, they would be forced to put the franchise tag on him. He gave the Colts a big break.

[ChoppedWood]

$15M for a SB winning QB is not bad at all...

[Butter]

But if Walkers not in your future plans, you don’t sign him at all.

Edit-I suppose they’re thinking they’ll hold on to Walker until week 3, then release him and replace him with Kelly. That way, the Chargers or whoever we play in week 2 can’t sign him just for our game. That makes sense.

Or they like Walker as a scout team QB.

[DrSpaceman]

Surprised it seems Kelly is the odd man out, but will see what happens when the two weeks suspension is over

Hope he gets a shot somewhere and keeps his head on straight now. He has the talent, many than a lot of these back ups

[Colt Classic]

I don't think it's possible to definitively say that Brissett is a better QB than Kelly. The moves they have made now pretty much guarantee they're all-in with Jacoby.

[JAFF]

Surprised it seems Kelly is the odd man out, but will see what happens when the two weeks suspension is over

Hope he gets a shot somewhere and keeps his head on straight now. He has the talent, many than a lot of these back ups


Why do you think Kelly is out? If the Colts didnt want to keep him, why not just release him? What are they waiting for?

[smitty46953]

they put Walker on the PS before they knew that'd get Hoyer which made sense (to have 2 Qb's for the first 2 games). after week 2, it's extremely unlikely Walker will be on the PS.

Welcome aboard denvercoltfan … :cool:

[Coltsalr]

Why do you think Kelly is out? If the Colts didnt want to keep him, why not just release him? What are they waiting for?

His suspension to conclude.

[Butter]

His suspension to conclude.

Some people don't think it be like it is, but it do. Seriously the Colts have nothing to gain by cutting him before he is reinstated since he is not counting against the roster.

[Chromeburn]

Surprised it seems Kelly is the odd man out, but will see what happens when the two weeks suspension is over

Hope he gets a shot somewhere and keeps his head on straight now. He has the talent, many than a lot of these back ups

My guess is they don't want to take on a developmental QB right now. I bet they target a QB in the next two drafts.

Run with Brisset. Have a experienced vet back him up (doesn't hurt he is from a potential playoff competitior) in case he gets hurt.

Have Walker as the scout team QB because he emulates scrambling QB's well.

[Chromeburn]

A little on what Hoyer will bring to the QB room.

https://twitter.com/MikeReiss/status/1168885001187942403

[JAFF]

Why shocked at what makes sense?

No, i posted in a different thread that I thought they would wait it out.

[Luck4Reich]

No, i posted in a different thread that I thought they would wait it out.

First time I've seen someone respond twice to the same post.:cool:

[JAFF]

First time I've seen someone respond twice to the same post.:cool:

I got asked twice

[Luck4Reich]

I got asked twice

My question was posted ONCE and you answered it TWICE.

[smitty46953]

Maybe he wasn't sure you read the first one? :cool:

[Luck4Reich]

Maybe he wasn't sure you read the first one? :cool:

Or I should have ignored him twice.:cool: