2019 NFL Draft Day 2

[VeveJones007]

Decided to get this thread started. Several really solid options still available on Day 2. Here’s a quick list:

S: Chauncey Gardner-Johnson
S: Nasir Adderley
CB: Byron Murphy
CB: Justin Layne
CB: Rock Ya-Sin
CB: Lonnie Johnson
WR: AJ Brown
EDGE: Chase Winovich
DT: Dre'mont Jones
EDGE: Jaylon Ferguson
EDGE: Oshane Ximenes
S: Taylor Rapp
WR: Riley Ridley
WR: Deebo Samuel
WR: Terry McLaurin
WR: Paris Campbell
RG/RT: Cody Ford
RT: Jawaan Taylor (knee)

[VeveJones007]

If there’s a decent trade offer, I expect Ballard to considering moving from 34 back towards the middle of Rd2.

I’d love to come out of tomorrow with something like Ferguson or Winovich, Jones, Rapp, and one of the receivers or corners.

[smitty46953]

I like Hakeem Butler too

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[VeveJones007]

I like Hakeem Butler too

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Mecole Hardman is another name to watch. I could see Ballard valuing a guy with great return ability after seeing the impact from Hill and Hester.

[VeveJones007]

If they stay at 34, I have a hunch they’ll go with Ferguson.

[Puck]

Not sure if you all listened to the press conference, but I believe he is looking to trade back again. I could see Miami or Cincy wanting to get to Drew Lock

Also as I added in the other thread.

Jawaan Taylor is still on the board.

[Dam8610]

D'Andre Walker
Juan Thornhill
Amani Hooker
Anthony Nelson

Of names not already listed

[Puck]

RB Darrell Henderson
RB. David Montgomery
CB. Greedy Williams
DE. Zach Allen
EDGE Ben Bangu
Edge LJ Collier
OT Dalton Risner

[Dam8610]

RB Darrell Henderson
RB. David Montgomery
CB. Greedy Williams
DE. Zach Allen
EDGE Ben Bangu
Edge LJ Collier
OT Dalton Risner

Stay as far away from Zach Allen as possible. He's a bust in the making.

[YDFL Commish]

Good players left, but damn DL is really tapped out.

[Maniac]

Good players left, but damn DL is really tapped out.

In a DL heavy draft too. That sucks

[Coltsalr]

Colts must think more highly of Turay and Lewis than we do.

Not saying they're right or wrong, but they have made investment in the DL previously. Let's hope we get more ROI than we did last year.

[Luck4Reich]

RB Darrell Henderson
RB. David Montgomery
CB. Greedy Williams
DE. Zach Allen
EDGE Ben Bangu
Edge LJ Collier
OT Dalton Risner

LJ Collier was.taken yesterday

[Coltsalr]

Definitely hoping they don't go OL early.

It still feels weird saying that.

[Luck4Reich]

I like Renell Wren too

[Dam8610]

LJ Collier was.taken yesterday

Wow. That's surprising. I guess the Colts are really high on Jaylon Ferguson? That's the only thing that makes sense to me at the moment.

[Coltsalr]

Wow. That's surprising. I guess the Colts are really high on Jaylon Ferguson? That's the only thing that makes sense to me at the moment.

I have to assume they're higher on Turay/Lewis than we are, as well.

Also, isn't Jaylon Ferguson a character concern?

[Chromeburn]

I like Hakeem Butler too

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In this range I like him more. End of 2nd to middle of 3rd preferrably. With maybe another receiver too who isn't such a developmental prospect.

[Chromeburn]

Decided to get this thread started. Several really solid options still available on Day 2. Here’s a quick list:

S: Chauncey Gardner-Johnson
S: Nasir Adderley
CB: Byron Murphy
CB: Justin Layne
CB: Rock Ya-Sin
CB: Lonnie Johnson
WR: AJ Brown
EDGE: Chase Winovich
DT: Dre'mont Jones
EDGE: Jaylon Ferguson
EDGE: Oshane Ximenes
S: Taylor Rapp
WR: Riley Ridley
WR: Deebo Samuel
WR: Terry McLaurin
WR: Paris Campbell
RG/RT: Cody Ford
RT: Jawaan Taylor (knee)

Winovish, Brown, Samuel/McLaurin, Rapp (rumors about a hip injury by Gil Brandts yesterday) and one of the corners. I would be very happy.

Rennel Wren in there too

[FatDT]

Good players left, but damn DL is really tapped out.

Talent in general is really tapped out. I get that the FO clearly didn't want to risk Sweat's heart condition. But the price of trading back into the 1st for a top pass rusher should've been higher.

Yes there are still some names to be interested in.

CB - Byron Murphy, Greedy Williams, Rock Ya-Sin

S - Nasir Adderly, Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, Amani Hooker, Taylor Rapp

WR - DK Metcalf, Hakeem Butler, Deebo Samuel, AJ Brown, Kelvin Harmon,
Riley Ridley, and Parris Campbell

DE - Chase Winnovich, Jachai Polite, Jaylon Ferguson,

DL - Dre'Mont Jones, Renell Wren, Charles Omenihu, Trysten Hill

OL - Jawaan Taylor, Dalton Risner, Cody Ford, Greg Little, Elgton Jenkins

[Dam8610]

I have to assume they're higher on Turay/Lewis than we are, as well.

Also, isn't Jaylon Ferguson a character concern?

Ballard talked a lot this offseason about adding to the DL rotation and wanting it to be 8 deep. Even if you count Turay and Lewis as part of that rotation, I count 6 reliable DL pieces, only 2 of which are DTs, and that's if you count Autry as a full DT, and 3 of which are 30+ (Houston, Hunt, Autry, Sheard, Lewis, Turay). Adding 2 quality DL in this draft is nearly mandatory unless you want the position to be a huge problem moving forward. Yet another reason trading out with Montez Sweat sitting there gift wrapped to you doesn't make sense.

[Chromeburn]

I think Ballard wanted Simmons. Mentions him going at 19.

https://www.indystar.com/videos/sports/2019/04/26/colts-pass-first-round/3584463002/

After that he must have the DT's graded similarily.

[ukcolt]

Ballard talked a lot this offseason about adding to the DL rotation and wanting it to be 8 deep. Even if you count Turay and Lewis as part of that rotation, I count 6 reliable DL pieces, only 2 of which are DTs, and that's if you count Autry as a full DT, and 3 of which are 30+ (Houston, Hunt, Autry, Sheard, Lewis, Turay). Adding 2 quality DL in this draft is nearly mandatory unless you want the position to be a huge problem moving forward. Yet another reason trading out with Montez Sweat sitting there gift wrapped to you doesn't make sense.

We have other guys who were playing fine for us last year....Ward, Muhammad. I am very interested in seeing Lewis develop along with the hoped for progression of Turay. I am not saying we shouldn't make further selections, but i thought Jihad Ward played really well in the limited playing time last year. In his 6 games he had 3 sacks.

We also have Grover Stewart and Hassan Ridgeway, who have both seen significant playing time, although i am less certain of their future success with the Colts.

So i would say we have 10 guys who have all seen significant playing time throughout their careers. They may not all be starters, but they are not scrubs with no experience either. They are exactly what you need for depth.

[VeveJones007]

Ballard talked a lot this offseason about adding to the DL rotation and wanting it to be 8 deep. Even if you count Turay and Lewis as part of that rotation, I count 6 reliable DL pieces, only 2 of which are DTs, and that's if you count Autry as a full DT, and 3 of which are 30+ (Houston, Hunt, Autry, Sheard, Lewis, Turay). Adding 2 quality DL in this draft is nearly mandatory unless you want the position to be a huge problem moving forward. Yet another reason trading out with Montez Sweat sitting there gift wrapped to you doesn't make sense.

This is why I think they'll end up staying put at 34 and taking Ferguson, possibly Winovich. Ferguson really fits their mold of a big, strong, athletic end with good production.

[VeveJones007]

We have other guys who were playing fine for us last year....Ward, Muhammad. I am very interested in seeing Lewis develop along with the hoped for progression of Turay. I am not saying we shouldn't make further selections, but i thought Jihad Ward played really well in the limited playing time last year. In his 6 games he had 3 sacks.

We also have Grover Stewart and Hassan Ridgeway, who have both seen significant playing time, although i am less certain of their future success with the Colts.

So i would say we have 10 guys who have all seen significant playing time throughout their careers. They may not all be starters, but they are not scrubs with no experience either. They are exactly what you need for depth.

Ward looked really good in those few games last year, but I'm not setting much store in Stewart and Ridgeway.

I'd be shocked if Ballard didn't come out of today with at least one more piece on the DL.

[VeveJones007]

I think Ballard wanted Simmons. Mentions him going at 19.

https://www.indystar.com/videos/sports/2019/04/26/colts-pass-first-round/3584463002/

After that he must have the DT's graded similarily.

I think Ballard was being honest when he said they have players #16-70 ranked very close together. He was hoping that one of the top 15 would drop (most likely Simmons), but he was more than happy to move back when he couldn't get one of those players.

I think he'll be open to moving down from #34, but like last year with Leonard and Smith, I think he'll just stay put and take whichever guy they like most.

[Coltsalr]

If I had to bet, I'd go with yet another trade:

@RapSheet
There could be fireworks early tonight: If the #AZCardinals go CB at No. 33, the #Colts should be able to get a ton at No. 34 in a trade. Lot of top OLs on the board, including Jawaan Taylor, Cody Ford and Greg Little.

[VeveJones007]

I have to assume they're higher on Turay/Lewis than we are, as well.

Also, isn't Jaylon Ferguson a character concern?

Not really. He was arrested when he was 18 for a fight outside a McDonald’s. Just had a $189 fine. Has been “a model citizen ever since,” but we all know that’s agent speak. However, lending credibility to that is what he’s doing now:

https://apple.news/ApSbAwfJJRXi8P0aAqoQrdA

[Chaka]

Interesting retweet by Holder

https://twitter.com/RNBWCV/status/1121735626691362816

Basically, looking forward and as measured separately under four different "yardsticks", the Colts have positioned themselves to have more draft assets than any other team.

Of course, this analysis ignores the fact that we don't have a 1st (though it also ignores the 2nd we picked up next year).

[Coltsalr]

If I had to bet, I'd go with yet another trade:

@RapSheet
There could be fireworks early tonight: If the #AZCardinals go CB at No. 33, the #Colts should be able to get a ton at No. 34 in a trade. Lot of top OLs on the board, including Jawaan Taylor, Cody Ford and Greg Little.

REALLY looking like it could be another trade:

@nfldraftscout

Couple of "What I'm Hearing" notes:

* Run on WR is expected early tonight

* Cody Ford & Jawaan Taylor expected to be in today's top 10 picks

* Byron Murphy will go early, maybe at 33 even

* Colts could trade back AGAIN and keep playing the board

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

I think Ballard was being honest when he said they have players #16-70 ranked very close together.


That is also why I made the comment last night that I think the Colts will try to move up from Pick 89. Try to grab one more player from that bracket.

If they could make 4 selections from that group of players, it has the potential of being a very solid draft class, even if they don't have a pick in the top 30 selections.

[Butter]

Interesting retweet by Holder

https://twitter.com/RNBWCV/status/1121735626691362816

Basically, looking forward and as measured separately under four different "yardsticks", the Colts have positioned themselves to have more draft assets than any other team.

Of course, this analysis ignores the fact that we don't have a 1st (though it also ignores the 2nd we picked up next year).

It doesn't ignore it, becuase it is specifically focused on what teams have remaining in this draft.

[FatDT]

It appears the strategy is to grab as many of these next-tier players as possible. Looks like Ballard didn't get the chance to pick what he considered top-level so he's taking the volume approach. I disagree on some of the players he punted on at 26 (Sweat, Tillery) but overall I get the approach and it makes sense. Lots of possibilities for a

- WR like Deebo Samuel (seems like a tough Anquan Boldin/Golden Tate-type, I like him) to compete for WR2

- safety to compete for the starter job (not convinced any safety after Abram has enough talent to win it outright)

- DL that can add to the rotation, there are still lots of good prospects.

- OL that can challenge for a starting spot and improve depth at center

- CB that can challenge for snaps, I don't think our corner depth chart is set at all this year though I like our players.

- RB to to add another wrinkle in Reich's offense.

[Maniac]

REALLY looking like it could be another trade:

@nfldraftscout

Couple of "What I'm Hearing" notes:

* Run on WR is expected early tonight

* Cody Ford & Jawaan Taylor expected to be in today's top 10 picks

* Byron Murphy will go early, maybe at 33 even

* Colts could trade back AGAIN and keep playing the board

Broncos or Bucs could be interesting possibilities to trade up and get Lock. If we traded with either of them, we wouldn't drop too far if we take their pick, plus getting whatever additional pick from them.

[Coltsalr]

Looking like Cards may go Byron Murphy:

Apparently it’s easier to get “firm confirmation” on the second day of the draft than the first.

According to Adam Schefter of ESPN, Washington cornerback Byron Murphy “is the heavy favorite” to be the 33rd overall pick tonight, if Arizona keeps the pick.

Of course, many things can change in the next seven hours and change, and the Cardinals might be enticed to not utilize the first pick in the second round.

But if they do, adding a talented cover player would be an interesting wrinkle.

An offseason of disgruntlement (Is that a word? If it’s not it should be) from veteran Patrick Peterson has fueled trade rumors, and those won’t go away if they’re spending a premium pick on a corner.

They also signed cornerbacks Robert Alford and Tramaine Brock this offseason, creating depth in the secondary.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/26/byron-murphy-could-be-the-first-pick-tonight/

[VeveJones007]

That is also why I made the comment last night that I think the Colts will try to move up from Pick 89. Try to grab one more player from that bracket.

If they could make 4 selections from that group of players, it has the potential of being a very solid draft class, even if they don't have a pick in the top 30 selections.

Makes sense. Might even find a team where the Colts can move down like 8 spots in Rd2 and then swap 3rds to get #89 closer to #70.

[VeveJones007]

Colts could find upgrades at the following positions today alone:

WR 3/4
DL 3/4
EDGE 3/4
SS 1/2
CB 4

I'm pretty confident in saying that after tonight, this will be the deepest Colts roster of the last 10 years. Possibly since they've been in Indy since Polian's rosters were more top-heavy. Mind that I said "deepest" and not "best."

[Luck4Reich]

Colts could find upgrades at the following positions today alone:

WR 3/4
DL 3/4
EDGE 3/4
SS 1/2
CB 4

I'm pretty confident in saying that after tonight, this will be the deepest Colts roster of the last 10 years. Possibly since they've been in Indy since Polian's rosters were more top-heavy. Mind that I said "deepest" and not "best."

I agree and depth isnt a bad thing. Also the best rosters dont always make it to the SB. We've seen that happen to the Colts.

[rcubed]

I am good with trading back from where we were. However I dont want to go nuts and keep trading back, at some point i want ballard to actually pick some good players.


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[Butter]

I am good with trading back from where we were. However I dont want to go nuts and keep trading back, at some point i want ballard to actually pick some good players.


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By day 3 he will own every pick in the 7th round.

[VeveJones007]

I agree and depth isnt a bad thing. Also the best rosters dont always make it to the SB. We've seen that happen to the Colts.

Just comparing against the 2005 team, the 2019 Colts will probably be better at QB2, RB3, WR3, WR4, WR5, TE3, DL3, DL4, EDGE4, CB3, CB4, CB5, FS2, SS2. Of course those guys won't see the field as much as the top 1-2 players at each position.

[rcubed]

By day 3 he will own every pick in the 7th round.



Awesome post!

I could handle one more trade out of 34 as long as we dont slide too much further down. Then I want him to start picking.

Ballard said he sees picks 15-70 to be basically the same talent level. Spending this whole draft to make us solid across the board is a good strategy if thats true. Then next year go for a real difference maker.


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[VeveJones007]

Fins getting Rosen for #48. Really like this draft so far for them.

[Oldcolt]

That is also why I made the comment last night that I think the Colts will try to move up from Pick 89. Try to grab one more player from that bracket.

If they could make 4 selections from that group of players, it has the potential of being a very solid draft class, even if they don't have a pick in the top 30 selections.

I think you've got Ballard figured out. He says what he means. My only caveat is that some of his top 70 may very well slide to 89. It's great that Ballard has a belief system and actually sticks to it. Go Colts

[Oldcolt]

Fins getting Rosen for #48. Really like this draft so far for them.

Man if I was an Arizona fan I would be bummed. Taking him #10 in a deep draft, passing on some very good players and then trading him for #48 the very next year. No way to build a team

[Coltsalr]

@FieldYates
A team I'd love to see explore a Chris Harris trade is the Colts. He'd fill a major need, they have the most cap space in the league, he'd fit in with their culture with his great football character, plus Indy GM Chris Ballard has built up plenty of draft capital to use.


Trading draft picks for a veteran would be rather out of character for Chris Ballard.

[Oldcolt]

If we keep the pick it would not surprise me to see us take Jawaan Taylor. He seems to be the best lineman left and Ballard loves lineman. I'll admit,however, that it's a fools errand to try and guess who Ballard likes.

[VeveJones007]

Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
Keep an eye on this one: The #Jets are looking into making a big move all the way from the third round into the early second, sources tell me and @MikeGarafolo. Would need to give up significant capital in future draft picks.

Would probably take their 2020 2nd along with pick #68.

[Coltsalr]

Would probably take their 2020 2nd along with pick #68.

@nfldraftscout
Keep an eye on the Colts as a spot for the Jets to trade up. These two teams have a history of working together.

[VeveJones007]

@nfldraftscout
Keep an eye on the Colts as a spot for the Jets to trade up. These two teams have a history of working together.

Jets have been desperate for an EDGE. I'm guessing they want Ferguson.

I wonder if Ballard would have any interest in Leonard Williams. Jets might consider moving him now that they have Quinnen Williams.

[Dam8610]

We have other guys who were playing fine for us last year....Ward, Muhammad. I am very interested in seeing Lewis develop along with the hoped for progression of Turay. I am not saying we shouldn't make further selections, but i thought Jihad Ward played really well in the limited playing time last year. In his 6 games he had 3 sacks.

We also have Grover Stewart and Hassan Ridgeway, who have both seen significant playing time, although i am less certain of their future success with the Colts.

So i would say we have 10 guys who have all seen significant playing time throughout their careers. They may not all be starters, but they are not scrubs with no experience either. They are exactly what you need for depth.

I was referring to players who can be relied upon to produce. I don't think anyone beyond the 6 I mentioned currently fits in that category, and 3 of them are 30+.

[Brylok]

Ballard will trade 34. I'm fine with that.

[VeveJones007]

Ballard will trade 34. I'm fine with that.

Question is what type of trade he would value most. These are all roughly equal in terms of the value chart:

1) NYJ: 68 + 2020 2nd + 2020 4th
2) CIN: 42 + 72 for 34 + 89
3) DEN: 41 + 125 + 182

You could obviously structure either Denver or Cincy’s deal the same way.

[VeveJones007]

Question is what type of trade he would value most. These are all roughly equal in terms of the value chart:

1) NYJ: 68 + 2020 2nd + 2020 4th
2) CIN: 42 + 72 for 34 + 89
3) DEN: 41 + 125 + 182

You could obviously structure either Denver or Cincy’s deal the same way.

Based on his comments about quality players through #70, I would guess he’d prefer option #2. He’s also running into a roster crunch, so adding more picks this year who will likely be cut is another consideration. But that’s also an argument for #1. Hmm...

[njcoltfan]

Fins getting Rosen for #48. Really like this draft so far for them.

Where have you seen, or read that ?

[njcoltfan]

Jets have been desperate for an EDGE. I'm guessing they want Ferguson.

I wonder if Ballard would have any interest in Leonard Williams. Jets might consider moving him now that they have Quinnen Williams.

and the Colts don't need an EDGE rusher? At some point Ballard has to start making picks !!! Last year he vastly improved this team, this year, so far, not so much !!

[VeveJones007]

and the Colts don't need an EDGE rusher? At some point Ballard has to start making picks !!! Last year he vastly improved this team, this year, so far, not so much !!

Yes he did. He improved this team because there’s likely to be growth from many of the following players next year:

Nelson
Smith
Cain
Hines
Mack
Lewis
Turay
Wilson
etc
etc
etc

When your strategy is draft and develop, your biggest improvement is players in years 1, 2 and 3, but you’re just focused on year 1.

[VeveJones007]

Where have you seen, or read that ?

PFT says it’s all but finalized. La Canfora says it’s agreed to.

[VeveJones007]

Pelissero says the Colts were getting calls about 34 even before 26 was on the clock yesterday.

[Luck4Reich]

Based on his comments about quality players through #70, I would guess he’d prefer option #2. He’s also running into a roster crunch, so adding more picks this year who will likely be cut is another consideration. But that’s also an argument for #1. Hmm...

I dont have a problem with him building up future picks for continual reload. Sounds like a good plan.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

PFT says it’s all but finalized. La Canfora says it’s agreed to.


Albert Breer of MMQB says that the deal is not done. The Dolphins want a late round pick going back to them.

https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1121847598325948426


They are probably talking right now putting the finishing touches on it.

[YDFL Commish]

Ballard will trade 34. I'm fine with that.

I am as well, so long as he only moves back a few spots. But I would also like to see him move up from 59, if needed, to get the right player.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Question is what type of trade he would value most. These are all roughly equal in terms of the value chart:

1) NYJ: 68 + 2020 2nd + 2020 4th
2) CIN: 42 + 72 for 34 + 89
3) DEN: 41 + 125 + 182

You could obviously structure either Denver or Cincy’s deal the same way.


The NY Jets have indicated that they really want back into Round 2. Since this pick is the second pick of round 2, I might ask for the Jets 2020 1st round pick. Sure, give them some protection - such as if it is a Top 10 or maybe even Top 15 pick, it will defer to 2021, but I would ask for their first.

[ukcolt]

Just read that Karl Joseph strong safety for the Raiders could be someone that the Raiders might be willing to shop after drafting Abram yesterday. He had been very disappointing for them in his first two seasons and hardly played the first half of last season, but was then a major force for them in the 2nd half of the year. Wouldn't mind giving up a 4th/5th rounder for someone still on their rookie contract.

[Dam8610]

Question is what type of trade he would value most. These are all roughly equal in terms of the value chart:

1) NYJ: 68 + 2020 2nd + 2020 4th
2) CIN: 42 + 72 for 34 + 89
3) DEN: 41 + 125 + 182

You could obviously structure either Denver or Cincy’s deal the same way.

I'm not interested in any of that. If the Colts can't get a 2 and a 3 for the 34th pick, they should just stay there and make the pick.

[YDFL Commish]

I'm not interested in any of that. If the Colts can't get a 2 and a 3 for the 34th pick, they should just stay there and make the pick.

Furthermore, if the there's a guy you like, just take him. Don't gamble that you can get him 5 to 10 picks later.

[omahacolt]

Colts need to add talent. Enough being cute and gaining picks and sitting on cash.

[CanuckColt]

Colts need to add talent. Enough being cute and gaining picks and sitting on cash.

EXACTLY!!!
Use those quality picks and don't turn into a 'Trade-Down Junkie'.

[Chromeburn]

So I guess a lot of teams called about the 34 pick. Even before they called for the 26 pick.

[smitty46953]

@ConnorJRogers just said #Colts are asking teams for 2020 1st in return for No. 34. That's the current hold up with #Jets.

[smitty46953]

Cards take CB Byron Murphy :cool:

[Spike]

There goes Murphy.

[smitty46953]

CB Rock Ya-Sin ?

[Spike]

Reggie is fucking crazy in a great way. Fucking with the Titan fans, love it.

[Big Smooth]

Tellem Reg!!

[smitty46953]

Reggie letting Titan fans have it !!! :cool:

[Butter]

Reggie with the smack talk

[YDFL Commish]

Like the pick!

[Spike]

Ya-Sin is a good pick.

[rcubed]

Hey, they made a pick!


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[Spike]

Like the pick!

Yep, not a head scratcher like big sweaty use to give us.

[smitty46953]

OT Jawaan Taylor to Jags :cool:

[Dewey 5]

Now I hope they get Winovich.

[Chromeburn]

Good senior bowl performer. The only guy who put up a fight against Deebo Samuel.

[Puck]

Maybe just me. But don’t see value in a CB in this system

Maybe they have a plan so I’m not bitching about it Good talent for sure

[Luck4Reich]

I like this pick.

[YDFL Commish]

I would now love to come out of this round with Adderly, DL or Deebo Samuel.

[smitty46953]

Niners take WR Deebo Samuel :cool:

[Luck4Reich]

Now we have a Rock a Hooker and a Maniac on Defense.:cool:

[Spike]

Now we have a Rock a Hooker and a Maniac on Defense.:cool:

Can't beat that, championship.

[Chromeburn]

Niners take WR Deebo Samuel :cool:

Yea he he wasn’t going to last long. McLaurin would be a nice grab, he seems like a colt to me. Best interview of all the WRs I heard this draft.

[Luck4Reich]

Can't beat that, championship.

If we add another Hooker it's a done deal.

[nate505]

Like the pick!

Me too. I would have been happy with him in the 1st round. Liking the trade better now.

[smitty46953]

Yea he he wasn’t going to last long. McLaurin would be a nice grab, he seems like a colt to me. Best interview of all the WRs I heard this draft.

I really like Hakeem Butler and Parris Campbell as well at WR :cool:

[Luck4Reich]

Steelers were looking at Ya Sin. Apparently Tomlin loved.him.

[JAFF]

If we add another Hooker it's a done deal.

Can't have too many hookers. Sounds like a slogan for Las Vegas

[Luck4Reich]

Think Ballard might move up and add a 4th 2nd round pick if he thinks the talent he talked about being there?

[smitty46953]

Bills need OL maybe Cody Ford here? :cool:

[Luck4Reich]

Can't have too many hookers. Sounds like a slogan for Las Vegas

No such thing as too many Hookers unless.your name is Tom Brady.

[YDFL Commish]

I don't really like any WR's after Deebo in round 2 or 3, except maybe Whiteside.

[JAFF]

Bills need OL maybe Cody Ford here? :cool:

You are telepathetic, it's amazing

[smitty46953]

I don't really like any WR's after Deebo in round 2 or 3, except maybe Whiteside.

Check out Hakeem Butler :cool:

[Maniac]

Colts need to queue up some Queen in the stadium every time this new kid makes a play. "We will, We will Rock Ya"

[Spike]

No such thing as too many Hookers unless.your name is Tom Brady.

Or Bob Kraft!

[Luck4Reich]

Colts need to queue up some Queen in the stadium every time this new kid makes a play. "We will, We will Rock Ya"

As long as it continues to We are the Champions. ;)

[smitty46953]

Sean Bunting seems early :cool:

[Luck4Reich]

Or Bob Kraft!

Yeah he likes the Hookers... Brady likes Drag

[smitty46953]

Zak Keefer‏Verified account @zkeefer

Rock Ya-Sin on Indy: "Love Indianapolis. I feel like it’s a great organization, a great culture, they have a bunch of young players that play hard, competitive, ... I feel like they’re – we’re gonna win a Super Bowl in the next few years."

:cool:

[smitty46953]

Raiders select CB Trayvon Mullen with the No. 40 overall pick :cool:

[YDFL Commish]

Colts need to queue up some Queen in the stadium every time this new kid makes a play. "We will, We will Rock Ya"

They already do. Their game day music is so old and dated its ridiculous!

[smitty46953]

you bunch of lazy bastids say something :eek:

[smitty46953]

Broncos select Kansas State OL Dalton Risner :cool:

[Maniac]

They already do. Their game day music is so old and dated its ridiculous!

Queen will never get old.

Most of the stadium music is the same league-wide.

[Spike]

Lock keeps dropping, the word is he has small ass hands.

[JAFF]

you bunch of lazy bastids say something :eek:

bite me

LOL

[Maniac]

Lock keeps dropping, the word is he has small ass hands.

That would be horrible to have ass hands

[Spike]

you bunch of lazy bastids say something :eek:

something

[Dewey 5]

Lock keeps dropping, the word is he has small ass hands.

As does Greedy Williams & I don't know why.

[Butter]

That would be horrible to have ass hands

ya never missed when wiping?

[Spike]

That would be horrible to have ass hands

That's why he keeps dropping, ass hands are a terrible thing to have as a QB.

[smitty46953]

Elway gotta grab Drew Lock as much ass kissing as he did over him :cool:

[Spike]

Elway gotta grab Drew Lock as much ass kissing as he did over him :cool:

Yep, Nostradamus. Lock to the buck toothed bastard's team.

[smitty46953]

Lions gotta go DB Adderley S, Rapp S, or Chauncey Gardner-Johnson S, FLA
:cool:

[smitty46953]

Tavai seems a reach ?:cool:

[smitty46953]

3 to go who ya want? :cool:

[smitty46953]

Packers are selecting OL Elgton Jenkins :cool:

[smitty46953]

Patriots just traded and jumped us :cool:
Patriots gave up 56 and 101 for 45 with the Rams

[rcubed]

Patriots just traded and jumped us :cool:



Trying to steal our guy again, bitches


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[smitty46953]

Bet we trade pick? :cool:

[Luck4Reich]

Tavai seems a reach ?:cool:

Big time reach.. I wanted him but much later.rounds

[Spike]

Trying to steal our guy again, bitches


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Hate em, hate em with a passion.

[Butter]

I doubt we were taking another CB

[Butter]

And another trade

[smitty46953]

Kevin Bowen‏ @KBowen1070

The #Colts trade back again.

Cleveland is now on the clock at Pick No. 46.

Colts move back 3 spots to No. 49. Waiting on the official details.

:cool:
Kevin Bowen‏ @KBowen1070 · 12s13 seconds ago

Per @FieldYates, the #Colts get pick No. 144 for moving back 3 spots with the Browns.

[Luck4Reich]

Hope added value.... some reaches have happened so smart trade back only 3 spots.

[Chromeburn]

I really like Hakeem Butler and Parris Campbell as well at WR :cool:

Cambell would do well with a lot of WR screens we run. He is a YAC machine. Butler is a project, reminds me of Plaxico Burress. But huge wingspan. Also Miles Boykin I bet is in there with his athleticism.

[smitty46953]

144 is round 5 pick 5 :cool:

[Luck4Reich]

I doubt we were taking another CB

Nah... maybe much later or UFAs now

[Butter]

144 is round 5 pick 5 :cool:

Not bad for only trading back 3 spots.

[Chromeburn]

Kevin Bowen‏ @KBowen1070

The #Colts trade back again.

Cleveland is now on the clock at Pick No. 46.

Colts move back 3 spots to No. 49. Waiting on the official details.

:cool:
Kevin Bowen‏ @KBowen1070 · 12s13 seconds ago

Per @FieldYates, the #Colts get pick No. 144 for moving back 3 spots with the Browns.

Early 5th round pick for three spots. Thats ok with me.

[smitty46953]

LSU CB Greedy Williams selected 46th overall by the Cleveland Browns

Poor Jim Brown is looking feeble, for you old guys he was heck of a RB :cool:

[Chromeburn]

I didn't realize Greedy Williams was still on the board. Wonder what was up with him. Bad interview?

[HoosierinFL]

LSU CB Greedy Williams selected 46th overall by the Cleveland Browns

Poor Jim Brown is looking feeble, for you old guys he was heck of a RB :cool:

Did he say 2013?

[YDFL Commish]

I didn't realize Greedy Williams was still on the board. Wonder what was up with him. Bad interview?

Won't tackle.

[smitty46953]

Paul Kuharsky‏Verified account @PaulKuharskyNFL · 49m49 minutes ago

Conspiracy theory: The @NFL is so powerful, it had the one entity tipping picks kicked off @Twitter.

:cool:

Site was @NFLUpdate

[Luck4Reich]

Taylor Rapp if hes there?

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

144 is round 5 pick 5 :cool:


Off 1 spot - Round 5, Pick 6.


The value was basically spot on with the trade value chart for moving those 3 spots.

[smitty46953]

Did he say 2013?

yes he did :cool:

[JAFF]

LSU CB Greedy Williams selected 46th overall by the Cleveland Browns

Poor Jim Brown is looking feeble, for you old guys he was heck of a RB :cool:

He's 83, looks good considering the beating he took in the old NFL

[Spike]

Did he say 2013?

Yeah he did. Forgot his glasses I guess.

[Chromeburn]

Taylor Rapp if hes there?

Gil Brandt said Rapp has an undisclosed hip injury and could cause him to drop.

[smitty46953]

Seahawks are selecting Safety Marquise Blair :cool:

[Luck4Reich]

Gil Brandt said Rapp has an undisclosed hip injury and could cause him to drop.

Ahhh.. ok

[Butter]

It was reported he had a hip flexor issue, but his agent denied it, of course.

[YDFL Commish]

Taylor Rapp if hes there?

I would still rather have Adderly.

[smitty46953]

Trading again? :cool:

[smitty46953]

Saints trade up to select former Texas A&M center Erik McCoy at No. 48 :cool:

[HoosierinFL]

Yeah he did. Forgot his glasses I guess.

That and he don’t know what year it is. Getting old sucks.

[JAFF]

That and he don’t know what year it is. Getting old sucks.

The alternative to not getting old is worse

[smitty46953]

Dolphins now have additional 2nd, 4th, 6th, 7th round picks in 2020 Draft. Bet they end up with Rosen somehow :cool:

[smitty46953]

Colts select TCU LB Ben Banogu at No. 49 :cool:

[Luck4Reich]

Banogu..... nice

Had him much later but maybe this is a Leonard type reach that pans out?

[YDFL Commish]

Banogu is edge i think.

[njcoltfan]

Seahawks are selecting Safety Marquise Blair :cool:

Who?

[nate505]

Don't know much about him, but i like the picks on the defensive end.

[smitty46953]

Banogu is edge ithink.

Yes he is 42 tackles for loss last 2 years :cool:

[JAFF]

Banogu is edge ithink.

Plays with his hand on the ground, not that big, Mathis like???

[Chromeburn]

Banagu is a great athlete, better than Collier athletically. A RAS score of 9.71.

Only Brian Burns and Montez Sweat tested out better athletically for ends.

[Luck4Reich]

Dremont Jones at 59?

[Spike]

So far, so good. Ballard, unlike big ugly, knows what the fuck he is doing.

[smitty46953]

Dremont Jones at 59?

I hope so or a WR :cool:

[Chromeburn]

Dremont Jones at 59?

Rennel Wren?

[smitty46953]

Ole Miss wide receiver A.J. Brown to the Titans :cool:

[smitty46953]

Bengals select former Washington TE Drew Sample :cool:

[FatDT]

Rennel Wren?

Either of those two would be great.

Ya Sin is pretty well-liked.

Bangonu seems like a serious athlete that needs some pass rush development. Hopefully we can be coached up.

[smitty46953]

Ballard listening to Venturi today on 1070 TheFan?
Venturi's favorites have been first 2 Colts picks … :eek:

[smitty46953]

Ben Banogu says Colts see him as a player who can play all over in front seven, lining up next to Darius Leonard as an off-the-ball LB on early downs and rushing off the edge on later downs.
:cool:

[Butter]

Just saw that Smitty, sounds interesting.

[FatDT]

Ben Banogu says Colts see him as a player who can play all over in front seven, lining up next to Darius Leonard as an off-the-ball LB on early downs and rushing off the edge on later downs.
:cool:

That would be a new wrinkle for the Eberflus defense. Taking a page from the Seahawks with their Elephant role?

[Luck4Reich]

Rennel Wren?

I like him too but think he can be had later.
Then again some reaching happening.

[smitty46953]

Eagles go with Penn State RB Miles Sanders
Could be best back in draft, I liked him :cool:

[ChoppedWood]

All good with these two dudes- and that's what they both look like- dudes, guys that just play the damn game. He has a hell of a wingspan- so does The Maniac- I like it.

I'm hoping Julian Love is there next- complete the backfield reconstruction with a willing hitter who also has good ball skills- another guy that just knows how to play football.

[smitty46953]

Texans first pick is CB Lonnie Johnson @54 :cool:

[smitty46953]

Texans second pick is Max Scharping OT @ 55 :cool:

[smitty46953]

Chiefs trade 61st overall and 167 for Rams 56. :cool:

[smitty46953]

Chiefs select Mecole Hardman WR to replace Tyreek Hill :cool:
Runs a 4.33 and good kick returner

[smitty46953]

Anyone think Chiefs cut Hill this week? :cool:

[Butter]

Anyone think Chiefs cut Hill this week? :cool:

Yes. The Browns sign him 2 days later.

[nate505]

Anyone think Chiefs cut Hill this week? :cool:

I hope so. Fuck that guy.

[smitty46953]

Yes. The Browns sign him 2 days later.

Yep, Probably so :rolleyes:

[Brylok]

Y'all are smart as hell. I don't know anything about any of these guys, so thanks for keeping me informed on what we're getting. I like what I'm hearing so far. Much different than the Grigs days

[smitty46953]

Eagles are selecting WR J.J. Arcega-Whiteside :cool:

[smitty46953]

Y'all are smart as hell. I don't know anything about any of these guys, so thanks for keeping me informed on what we're getting. I like what I'm hearing so far. Much different than the Grigs days

I play in 2 Dynasty 32 team fantasy football leagues , helps me learn these guys :cool:

[YDFL Commish]

Defense!

[smitty46953]

Too Tall Jones looks like he could still play. :cool:

[Luck4Reich]

Come on Jones!

[smitty46953]

DT Trysten Hill to Cowboys, I kinda hoped we would get him tomorrow :cool:

[Brylok]

I play in 2 Dynasty 32 team fantasy football leagues , helps me learn these guys :cool:
You've been spot on

[smitty46953]

Colts select WR Parris Campbell (Ohio State) :cool:

[Dewey 5]

Parris Campbell. Burner

[FatDT]

I remember liking what I read about Parris Campbell. Speedy guy.

Edit: hell yeah he is, 4.31 40 at 6’ and 205 lbs.

[Luck4Reich]

He is a serious vertical threat... I'm ok with this pick.

[nate505]

Nice, I was hoping for a receiver.

Teams must hate Metcalf

[Spike]

Parris Campbell. Burner

Love this pick.

[smitty46953]

I remember liking what I read about Parris Campbell. Speedy guy.

Edit: hell yeah he is, 4.31 40 at 6’ and 205 lbs.

Love the pick !!! :cool:

[ChoppedWood]

Got no issues with PC at all, dude can go and leave a trail.... we should have a fucking scary ass blend of speed and size catching the ball next year! Love it.

[Luck4Reich]

Ballard kicking ass again! Nice.

[Spike]

He is a serious vertical threat... I'm ok with this pick.

I'm more than ok with this pick. Love it.

[smitty46953]

Chargers select former Delaware DB Nasir Adderley at No. 60 :cool:

[FatDT]

As much as I like defense I might be most excited about Campbell. He will be the fastest guy on the field. Kind of reminds me of Pierre Garçon but with greater potential and athletic ability.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Love the pick !!! :cool:


I see what you did there (you had him in the draft contest)

[Brylok]

TY, Funchess, and Campbell

[Thorgrim]

Let’s add a safety please.

[smitty46953]

Now we got a long wait to pick #89 :cool:

[Thorgrim]

TY, Funchess, and Campbell

Scary stuff

[YDFL Commish]

OL or defense from here on out!

[smitty46953]

I see what you did there (you had him in the draft contest)

Yes, guess I did and at 59 just looked :cool:

[Coltsalr]

Campbell was my favorite WR besides the Ole Miss boys.

He could be Percy Harvin without the migraines. The packages we could make with Hines/Campbell could be downright scary.

[Luck4Reich]

I'm more than ok with this pick. Love it.

The more I read about this guy the more I'm loving it.... this Offense could become VERY scary and with that Oline and Luck... damn!

[Dewey 5]

TY, Funchess, and Campbell

Luck's new wife is happy tonight because I'm sure Andrew is experiencing a 4 hour Viagra type boner right now.

[Brylok]

Scary stuff

Also Ebron, Doyle, Cain, and Fountain (if they pan out). Scary

[smitty46953]

Nice, I was hoping for a receiver.

Teams must hate Metcalf

Looks like a workout warrior to me and second best WR with Ole Miss :cool:
Dammy loved him if I recall

[Luck4Reich]

Luck's new wife is happy tonight because I'm sure Andrew is experiencing a 4 hour Viagra type boner right now.

Count my wife equally happy I'm very happy with these picks.:cool:

[smitty46953]

Count my wife equally happy.:cool:

Can you put her on here so we can double check that statement? :eek:

[smitty46953]

Rosen traded to Cards :cool:

[YDFL Commish]

Looks like a workout warrior to me and second best WR with Ole Miss :cool:
Dammy loved him if I recall

Yes he did. I told him I wouldn't take him in the 1st 2 rounds.

[Dam8610]

I wonder if Ballard has confidence in Geathers and Farley or if he has confidence that a Juan Thornhill or Amani Hooker will last until 89.

[smitty46953]

WR Parris Campbell is a 99.3 percentile athlete at WR :cool:

[smitty46953]

I wonder if Ballard has confidence in Geathers and Farley or if he has confidence that a Juan Thornhill or Amani Hooker will last until 89.

I like Thornhill too :cool:

[FatDT]

TY, Funchess, and Campbell

It’ll be TY, Campbell, and Funchess/Cain by the end of the season.

[smitty46953]

Cards select WR Andy Isabella goes before DK Metcalf, must really not be valued :cool:

[nate505]

Hahaha, the Cardinals are such a fucking joke.

[YDFL Commish]

It’ll be TY, Campbell, and Funchess/Cain by the end of the season.

Wait...wait...wait, I thought Cain was going to surpass them all?

[Chromeburn]

Cards select WR Andy Isabella goes before DK Metcalf, must really not be valued :cool:

Someone today or yesterday said Metcalf was a media creation.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Rosen traded to Cards :cool:


https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1121947773199429632

Full terms, per source:

Dolphins trade: Pick 62

Cardinals trade: QB Josh Rosen, a 2020 fifth-rounder.

[smitty46953]

Arizona's GM probably on short list
The Cardinals trade Josh Rosen and a 2020 fifth round pick to the Miami Dolphins in exchange for this year's second round pick #62 :eek:

[YDFL Commish]

Someone today or yesterday said Metcalf was a media creation.

Anything can be created or erased on media.

[smitty46953]

Hahaha, the Cardinals are such a fucking joke.

Yes, Keim be sitting with Grigson soon as Bidwell wakes up :eek:

[Butter]

https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1121947773199429632

Full terms, per source:

Dolphins trade: Pick 62

Cardinals trade: QB Josh Rosen, a 2020 fifth-rounder.

How the hell does Keim still have a Job.

[JAFF]

Anything can be created or erased on media.

Nope, the internet is written in ink. Once it's out there, you can't pull it back

[smitty46953]

I wonder if Ballard has confidence in Geathers and Farley or if he has confidence that a Juan Thornhill or Amani Hooker will last until 89.

Chiefs nab Thornhill :cool:

[Brylok]

Kinda feel bad for Rosen. He got thrown to the wolves and then dumped. Good luck to him

[smitty46953]

How the hell does Keim still have a Job.

and fleece him for a 5th as well :cool:

[Spike]

Yes, Keim be sitting with Grigson soon as Bidwell wakes up :eek:

Bidwell is one of the worst owners in the league, along with the Raiders Davis.

[smitty46953]

Seahawks take Metcalf @ 64 :cool:

[Butter]

Bidwell is one of the worst owners in the league, along with the Raiders Davis.

You forgot Dan Snyder.

[nate505]

There goes Metcalf. I'm pretty happy with Campbell myself.

[FatDT]

Bidwell is one of the worst owners in the league, along with the Raiders Davis.

I’d put Dan Snyder and Mike Brown up there too.

[Brylok]

Lol. Metcalf looks like a He-Man action figure from the 80s. Jeez

[smitty46953]

Patriots receive picks no. 77 and 118 from Seattle in exchange for the 64th pick. :cool: