2019 Free Agency Period

[smitty46953]

Free Agency Tampering Period

At 12:00 p.m. ET Monday until 3:59:59 p.m. ET on Wednesday, clubs may contact & enter into contract negotiations w/ the certified agents of players who will become unrestricted free agents upon expiration of their '18 player contracts at 4:00 p.m. ET on Wednesday.

No contracts can be signed, but intentions can be announced …

At 4:00 pm Wednesday 3/13/2019 Contracts can be signed

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[smitty46953]

For everyone clamoring to sign the big name free agents remember

2019 NFL marquee free agent signings = 2021 NFL veteran cuts

Keep this in mind as your disappointment in Ballard's lack of big name signings mount. :eek:

[smitty46953]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Former Patriots’ OT Trent Brown intends to sign a four-year, $66 million contract that includes $36.75 million guaranteed with the Oakland Raiders, per source, making him highest paid OL in NFL history.

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[rm1369]

For everyone clamoring to sign the big name free agents remember

2019 NFL marquee free agent signings = 2021 NFL veteran cuts

Keep this in mind as your disappointment in Ballard's lack of big name signings mount. :eek:

As I said in another thread, I don’t necessarily want big free agent signings, but I want to see an adequate attempt to address team needs. Kicking the can down the road or avoiding vets specifically to “save” snaps for young guys will piss me off. If Ballard does with SS what he did last year at WR I’ll be pissed. If he banks on Cain and a rookie to solve the hole at WR2 this year I’ll be pissed. If he doesn’t attempt to address pass rush from multiple fronts (draft and free agency) I’ll be pissed. I don’t want Brown or Bell. And I don’t need Collins. But to me there will be no excuse for failing to address the major holes on the roster.

[smitty46953]

As I said in another thread, I don’t necessarily want big free agent signings, but I want to see an adequate attempt to address team needs. Kicking the can down the road or avoiding vets specifically to “save” snaps for young guys will piss me off. If Ballard does with SS what he did last year at WR I’ll be pissed. If he banks on Cain and a rookie to solve the hole at WR2 this year I’ll be pissed. If he doesn’t attempt to address pass rush from multiple fronts (draft and free agency) I’ll be pissed. I don’t want Brown or Bell. And I don’t need Collins. But to me there will be no excuse for failing to address the major holes on the roster.

For everyone clamoring to sign the big name free agents remember

2019 NFL marquee free agent signings = 2021 NFL veteran cuts

Keep this in mind as your disappointment in Ballard's lack of big name signings mount.


Just preparing everyone for their impending disappointment :cool:

[HoosierinFL]

Here we are being linked to CJ Mosley:
https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1105113982044647424

but so are a number of teams. But that's a signing I could get behind, perfect LB for this defense. Good zone defender, can read plays, and has been a tackling machine. Mosley and Leonard together would be killer.

[Dam8610]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Former Patriots’ OT Trent Brown intends to sign a four-year, $66 million contract that includes $36.75 million guaranteed with the Oakland Raiders, per source, making him highest paid OL in NFL history.

:cool:

That Gruden Mayock braintrust sure is something. I wouldn't call it good. But something.

[Dam8610]

For everyone clamoring to sign the big name free agents remember

2019 NFL marquee free agent signings = 2021 NFL veteran cuts

Keep this in mind as your disappointment in Ballard's lack of big name signings mount.


Just preparing everyone for their impending disappointment :cool:

There are an inordinate amount of 25 year old multiple Pro Bowlers in this free agent class, though.

[VeveJones007]

DO SOMETHING Ballard!!!

[smitty46953]

Here we are being linked to CJ Mosley:
https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1105113982044647424

but so are a number of teams. But that's a signing I could get behind, perfect LB for this defense. Good zone defender, can read plays, and has been a tackling machine. Mosley and Leonard together would be killer.

With our cap space the talking heads link the Colts to everyone :eek: LOL

[smitty46953]

49ers agreed to terms with LB Kwon Alexander, formerly of the Bucs, on a four-year, $54 million contract.


ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the deal contains $27 million guaranteed. At least as of right now, it makes Alexander the highest-paid inside linebacker in NFL history. They are eye-brow raising numbers for a player who not even the best linebacker available. 25-year-old (in August) Alexander is also coming off a torn ACL. He battled hamstring issues in 2017 and served a four-game suspension in 2015. Alexander is not an asset in coverage. We are frankly a bit baffled at the numbers. The 49ers are projecting a big step forward.

Related: Tampa Bay Buccaneers


Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

‎Mar‎ ‎11‎, ‎2019‎ ‎1‎:‎49‎ ‎PM

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[smitty46953]

Will Carroll‏Verified account @injuryexpert

Colts so far this offseason has been a big bunch of quiet. Couple quiet signings. Couple quiet releases or nonsignings but nothing that rocked the boat. All this cap and no big name connections. No leaks is the most impressive thing about this staff.

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[smitty46953]

Lions agreed to terms with CB Justin Coleman on a four-year, $36 million contract.

https://www.rotoworld.com/football/nfl/player-news/headlines#news-8896871

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[smitty46953]

NFL Access‏ @NFL_Access

The Jags reportedly have a deal in place with QB Nick Foles that is worth nearly $22M/year.

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[smitty46953]

josinaanderson‏Verified account @JosinaAnderson

Landon Collins just told me he will go to the #Skins.

:cool:


Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet


Sources: Former #Giants star S Landon Collins is signing a 6-year deal for a whopping $84M with the rival #Redskins. Hard to imagine a box safety with this kind of deal after last year’s slow safety market. This moves the market dramatically.

[smitty46953]

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet

Tight end C.J. Uzomah has agreed to terms heading back to the #Bengals on a 3-year deal worth more $18M, source said. Nice deal for Uzomah.

:cool:

[Dam8610]

josinaanderson‏Verified account @JosinaAnderson

Landon Collins just told me he will go to the #Skins.

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Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet


Sources: Former #Giants star S Landon Collins is signing a 6-year deal for a whopping $84M with the rival #Redskins. Hard to imagine a box safety with this kind of deal after last year’s slow safety market. This moves the market dramatically.

Wow. They can have him at $14 million per year.

[Coltsalr]

@AdamSchefter
Patriots DE Trey Flowers intends to sign with Detroit, per source.


At least he's not with the Patriots anymore.

[smitty46953]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Patriots DE Trey Flowers intends to sign with Detroit, per source.

12:21 PM - 11 Mar 2019 :cool:

Back with Matt Patricia :cool:

[VeveJones007]

@AdamSchefter
Patriots DE Trey Flowers intends to sign with Detroit, per source.


At least he's not with the Patriots anymore.

Guesses? I'm going with 6/95/50.

[smitty46953]

Wow. They can have him at $14 million per year.

Worth noting

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Sal Capaccio ��‏Verified account @SalSports

Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer are counting a combined $11M on the Bills cap this year.

[Coltsalr]

Guesses? I'm going with 6/95/50.

5 years supposedly. So 5/85/50 would be my guess.

[Dam8610]

Guesses? I'm going with 6/95/50.

6/100/50 because this market is stupid enough to pay Trey Flowers as well as J.J. Watt.

[smitty46953]

DO SOMETHING Ballard!!!

When will the #FireBallard start on Twitter and forums ? :eek:

[VeveJones007]

When will the #FireBallard start on Twitter and forums ? :eek:

It just did. #FireBallard #DoSomethingBallard #LOUDNOISES

[VeveJones007]

Just checking on something: people know the Colts aren't going to sign anyone today, right? Today is about seeing which free agents are left unsigned, then the fun starts.

[smitty46953]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Bengals signing OT Bobby Hart...3 yrs $21M+, per source.

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[Coltsalr]

Just checking on something: people know the Colts are going to sign anyone today, right? Today is about seeing which free agents are left unsigned, then the fun starts.

Let's hope there's anyone left tomorrow.

[Oldcolt]

Want to go on record as hoping we do not 'win' free agency. Every year it seems the teams that do 'best' in free agency do 'worst' the season. I'm happy that this team has a plan and sticks to it. Don't do anything yet Ballard. Wait and be patient.

[smitty46953]

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet

Source: The #Jets are closing in on a deal with #Redskins versatile WR Jamison Crowder, their top slot guy.

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[smitty46953]

Mike Garafolo‏Verified account @MikeGarafolo

#Lions have agreed to a deal with former #Steelers TE Jesse James, source says. Detroit remains active.

:cool:

[Coltsalr]

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet

Source: The #Jets are closing in on a deal with #Redskins versatile WR Jamison Crowder, their top slot guy.

:cool:

I want Humphries anyway.

Hopefully he lasts a couple days so that Ballard can get off the golf course.

[smitty46953]

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet

The #Titans are signing S Kenny Vaccaro to a 4-year deal worth $26M with $11.5M in guarantees, source said. The one-year prove-it deal pays off.

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[FatDT]

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet

The #Titans are signing S Kenny Vaccaro to a 4-year deal worth $26M with $11.5M in guarantees, source said. The one-year prove-it deal pays off.

:cool:

Vaccaro is no Collins but compared to the amount the Skins are giving him, Vaccaro is a steal at that price.

[smitty46953]

Vaccaro is no Collins but compared to the amount the Skins are giving him, Vaccaro is a steal at that price.


Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet

With the Kenny Vaccaro signing, the #Titans have official released S Jonathan Cyprien, source said.

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[smitty46953]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Bills have agreed with Frank Gore on a 1-year, $2 million deal, per source.

:cool:

[Coltsalr]

@MikeGarafolo
#Jets have now agreed with WR Jamison Crowder on a three-year, $28.5 million deal with $17 million fully guaranteed at signing, source says. Former #Redskins fourth-rounder cashes in.



Maybe it's just me, but this doesn't seem like such an insane amount of money (relative term). If the Colts can get Humphries at <$10M then Ballard should jump on it and still be able to preach fiscal responsibility.

[Chaka]

Telling note - Went through this whole thread, and none of the 2018 playoff teams have signed a free agent yet. It's only the cellar dwellers who are spending money at this early point.

[VeveJones007]

@MikeGarafolo
#Jets have now agreed with WR Jamison Crowder on a three-year, $28.5 million deal with $17 million fully guaranteed at signing, source says. Former #Redskins fourth-rounder cashes in.



Maybe it's just me, but this doesn't seem like such an insane amount of money (relative term). If the Colts can get Humphries at <$10M then Ballard should jump on it and still be able to preach fiscal responsibility.

I don't think $10MM for a slot receiver is good value, but let's see if Ballard agrees.

[VeveJones007]

Telling note - Went through this whole thread, and none of the 2018 playoff teams have signed a free agent yet. It's only the cellar dwellers who are spending money at this early point.

Desperate front offices.

[smitty46953]

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet

The #Jaguars had Super Bowl MVP Nick Foles as their top target. Per @MikeGarafolo he gets 4 years and $88M. Large.



Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Adam Schefter Retweeted Ian Rapoport

Guranteed money for Nick Foles in Jacksonville, per source: $50.125 million.

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[smitty46953]

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet

The #Jaguars are expected to release QB Blake Bortles when QB Nick Foles’ deal is official and signed, I’m told. Will be a few days. But Bortles will be free.

:cool:

Figured this was coming … :eek:

[VeveJones007]

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet

The #Jaguars had Super Bowl MVP Nick Foles as their top target. Per @MikeGarafolo he gets 4 years and $88M. Large.



Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Adam Schefter Retweeted Ian Rapoport

Guranteed money for Nick Foles in Jacksonville, per source: $50.125 million.

:cool:

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

1/5,000

[Coltsalr]

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet

The #Jaguars had Super Bowl MVP Nick Foles as their top target. Per @MikeGarafolo he gets 4 years and $88M. Large.



Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Adam Schefter Retweeted Ian Rapoport

Guranteed money for Nick Foles in Jacksonville, per source: $50.125 million.

:cool:

That is psychotic.

Okay, on second thought, Ballard sitting on his hands doesn't seem so bad in the face of that abject stupidity.

[smitty46953]

Mike Garafolo‏Verified account @MikeGarafolo

DeSean Jackson to the #Eagles, sources tell me and @RapSheet

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[rcubed]

wow on the foles deal

[Chromeburn]

Mike Garafolo‏Verified account @MikeGarafolo

DeSean Jackson to the #Eagles, sources tell me and @RapSheet

:cool:

That's a good fit. I like what the Eagles are doing. Malik Jackson is a good rotational piece for that line too.

[JAFF]

That is psychotic.

Okay, on second thought, Ballard sitting on his hands doesn't seem so bad in the face of that abject stupidity.

Foles has beaten the colts twice in his career. Just saying

[Chromeburn]

Titans are going to sign Adam Humphries. Kenny Moore is going to get some work.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Titans are going to sign Adam Humphries. Kenny Moore is going to get some work.

Humphries' contract reportedly 4 yr - $36MM

https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1105224275626262531

[Coltsalr]

Titans are going to sign Adam Humphries. Kenny Moore is going to get some work.

That one annoys me. $9M per year is reasonable and he would've instantly shored up our WR corps.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

That one annoys me. $9M per year is reasonable and he would've instantly shored up our WR corps.


Hmmm, apparently Tennessee was primarily bidding against the Cheats for Humphries:


https://twitter.com/diannaESPN/status/1105225539206422528

[Chromeburn]

That one annoys me. $9M per year is reasonable and he would've instantly shored up our WR corps.

Yeah, but there are lot of slot receivers in this draft so I don't feel too bad about it. Plus with all the 2 TE sets and flex TE we play, how much will he be on the field? We really need that outside receiver.

[YDFL Commish]

That one annoys me. $9M per year is reasonable and he would've instantly shored up our WR corps.

There are plenty of Humphries types in the draft. David Sills, Stanley Morgan, Terry Godwin, Andy Isabella and Hunter Renfrow are a few that come to mind.

[Chromeburn]

There are plenty of Humphries types in the draft. David Sills, Stanley Morgan, Terry Godwin, Andy Isabella and Hunter Renfrow are a few that come to mind.

AJ Brown is a big slot right up Reich's alley. Penny Hart is pure speed and an intriguing late round prospect. Terry McLauren. Godwin from Georgia. I like Isabella. We could spend a 4th or 5th and get someone.

[VeveJones007]

Yeah, but there are lot of slot receivers in this draft so I don't feel too bad about it. Plus with all the 2 TE sets and flex TE we play, how much will he be on the field? We really need that outside receiver.

This could easily turn out to be another Austin Collie & Pierre Garçon type draft for the Colts at WR. A ton of depth there.

[Coltsalr]

Yeah, but there are lot of slot receivers in this draft so I don't feel too bad about it. Plus with all the 2 TE sets and flex TE we play, how much will he be on the field? We really need that outside receiver.

Oh believe me, AJ Brown is my #1 Target for the 2nd round.

Seems like he might be there and getting a big slot guy would be great for this offense.

[smitty46953]

Mike Garafolo‏Verified account @MikeGarafolo

DeSean Jackson to the #Eagles, sources tell me and @RapSheet

:cool:

Trade Details:

Eagles get:
WR DeSean Jackson
2020 7th-rd pick

#Buccaneers get:
2019 6th-rd pick

[smitty46953]

Chad Forbes‏ @NFLDraftBites

#Bills Signing former #Bengals Tight End Tyler Kroft to 3 Yr deal. 26 Yrs Old adds much needed depth to TE unit. Potentially ascending player if stays healthy. Waiting on terms of the deal.

:cool:

[Indiana V2]

I really hate this wait for the leftovers approach, I mean it worked last season, but doesn't mean it will work this year...and we got the money to spend on some of these guys.

[smitty46953]

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet

Former #Seahawks RB Mike Davis is signing with the #Bears, source said. The former practice squad earns his first big payday.

:cool:

Bet the Jordon Howard trade follows soon …

[smitty46953]

I really hate this wait for the leftovers approach, I mean it worked last season, but doesn't mean it will work this year...and we got the money to spend on some of these guys.

Hell, I like leftovers … Pez's bread makes awesome French toast :cool:

[smitty46953]

Aaron Wilson‏ @AaronWilson_NFL

Cut by the Packers, linebacker Antonio Morrison cleared waivers

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[smitty46953]

Mike Garafolo‏Verified account @MikeGarafolo

#Bears are signing former #Jets CB Buster Skrine, sources tell me and @PSchrags. Surely means Bryce Callahan is gone from Chicago.

:cool:

[jasperhobbs]

I think as they usually do, Colts are sitting out the first wave for signing free agents. I would rather they do that than overpay. Landon Collins would have been nice to have but not at 14 million a year. Wonder how the Redskins fit everyone under the cap.

Draft well and retain your own players is a good strategy.

[smitty46953]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Former Chiefs center Mitch Morse intends to sign with the Bills, per source.

:cool:

11 million per season highest paid C in league ...

[smitty46953]

Dov Kleiman‏Verified account @NFL_DovKleiman

#Chiefs make a big move, sign former #Texans, #Cardinals Safety Tyrann Mathieu, PER @TerezPaylor




Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet

Sources: The #Chiefs are expected to sign standout S Tyrann Mathieu, swiping him from the #Texans. The deal should eclipse $12M per year.

:cool:

3 years @ $42 million

[Colt Classic]

Jeez, hasn't Honey Badger started to decline? Twelve mil per...:eek:

[smitty46953]

Jeez, hasn't Honey Badger started to decline? Twelve mil per...:eek:

Safety's getting paid this year ! :cool:

[sherck]

Amos, Tate, Z Smith, Callahan, Darby. Lots of good names out there not linked to anyone yet.

Be patient, Colts fans.

Walk Worthy,

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

[Butter]

Safety's getting paid this year ! :cool:

Weird since they struggled to find jobs last year and this year there is a bout of them.

[smitty46953]

Weird since they struggled to find jobs last year and this year there is a bout of them.

Yes, that's what I thought :cool:

[Spike]

I think as they usually do, Colts are sitting out the first wave for signing free agents. I would rather they do that than overpay. Landon Collins would have been nice to have but not at 14 million a year. Wonder how the Redskins fit everyone under the cap.

Draft well and retain your own players is a good strategy.

The Redskins and the Raiders are two of the dumbest organizations in football. Snyder and Allen are dumb asses.

[Dewey 5]

Any interest in Ezekiel Ansah? He might be too much of a risk.:confused:

[VeveJones007]

Wow, Ballard did something!

[Indiana V2]

Dov Kleiman‏Verified account @NFL_DovKleiman

#Chiefs make a big move, sign former #Texans, #Cardinals Safety Tyrann Mathieu, PER @TerezPaylor




Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet

Sources: The #Chiefs are expected to sign standout S Tyrann Mathieu, swiping him from the #Texans. The deal should eclipse $12M per year.

:cool:

3 years @ $42 million
Yuck!

[smitty46953]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Adam Schefter Retweeted Mike Klis

Former Texans’ DB Kareem Jackson intends to sign a three-year, $33 million deal that includes $23 million guaranteed with the Denver Broncos, per source.

:cool:

[Coltsalr]

@AdamSchefter
Former Vikings’ LB Anthony Barr intends to sign with the NY Jets, per league source. Jets get a pass rusher.

[Dam8610]

Any interest in Ezekiel Ansah? He might be too much of a risk.:confused:

Not really, too many injuries.

@AdamSchefter
Former Vikings’ LB Anthony Barr intends to sign with the NY Jets, per league source. Jets get a pass rusher.

That one stings, but isn't surprising. I'd like to see the terms of the deal.

[VeveJones007]

Some good DEs (that’s for you, Omaha) and an interior guy like Philon are still available. Plus Amos. Will be interesting to keep tabs on it the next couple of days.

[smitty46953]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Former Ravens LB CJ Mosley intends to sign a 5-year, $85 million deal with the Jets, as @RapSheet said. Jets land Anthony Barr and Mosley.

:cool:

[smitty46953]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Former Vikings’ DT Sheldon Richardson intends to sign a three-year deal with the Cleveland Browns when free agency opens Wednesday, a source tells ESPN.

Cleveland’s opening-day front four now expected to be DE Myles Garrett, DT Larry Ogunjobi, Richardson and DE Emmanuel Ogbah.

:cool:

[Coltsalr]

@JoelAErickson
Colts are out of the running for Chicago safety Adrian Amos, source says


Sigh. I want to believe but...

[smitty46953]

@JoelAErickson
Colts are out of the running for Chicago safety Adrian Amos, source says


Sigh. I want to believe but...

Who is Joel Erickson? Reliable ? :cool:

[smitty46953]

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet

The #Packers are expected to bring in a huge addition, bringing in former #Ravens edge rusher Za'Darius Smith, sources say. They tried to trade for him a few years ago, are in prime position to sign him now.

:cool:

[smitty46953]

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet

The #Packers aren’t done: They are also signing #Bears S Adrian Amos, sources say. Two big deals, two huge additions on D. A former rival comes to Green Bay.

:cool:

[indycolts2]

Who is Joel Erickson? Reliable ? :cool:

Colts inside reporter for @IndyStar...came on board in last several months I believe.

[Coltsalr]

@RobDemovsky
The Packers also are signing Preston Smith, according to a league source. Huge day for the Packers defense


Well the Packers have finally ditched their conservative approach it appears.

[Coltsalr]

@RobDemovsky
The Packers also are signing Preston Smith, according to a league source. Huge day for the Packers defense


Well the Packers have finally ditched their conservative approach it appears.

Colts narrowly lost out on Preston Smith:

@JosinaAnderson
I'm told free agent LB Preston Smith is going to Green Bay on a 4-year deal worth $52M. $16M fully guaranteed at signing. Smith choices came down to the #Colts and the #Packers, per source.

[sherck]

@RobDemovsky
The Packers also are signing Preston Smith, according to a league source. Huge day for the Packers defense


Well the Packers have finally ditched their conservative approach it appears.

Wow, Preston Smith, Za'Daris Smith AND Adrian Amos?

That is a very nice talent infusion into an aging Packers defense.

However, that should about finish them off in free agency since they only started with around $20m that they could spend in free agency and THAT probably means that they are putting in big signing bonuses to spread the cap hits over future years.

They don't get much cap relief by cutting veterans since it appears that they have been pushing money foward. Cutting TE Jimmy Graham would deliver $5.3m of cap relief while cutting DT Mike Daniels would deliver $8.3m. Otherwise, they care cutting starting OTs, LB Nick Perry or starting OC Corey Linsley.

They are done in free agency except perhaps so VERY low level stuff.

Walk Worthy,

[VeveJones007]

I'm just here to watch some people's disappointment at "losing" free agency when the team is going to win 12 games next year.

[Chromeburn]

I'm just here to watch some people's disappointment at "losing" free agency when then team is going to win 12 games next year.

Not if we don’t improve the pass rush. I don’t want to enter the year with a deficiency like the WRs were last year, and the oline the year before.

[VeveJones007]

Not if we don’t improve the pass rush. I don’t want to enter the year with a deficiency like the WRs were last year, and the oline the year before.

There are two primary sources of improvement from Ballard's strategy.

1) Draft
2) Develop

We tend to focus on #1, but #2 is even more important. If the coaching staff can't develop Turay and Lewis into quality pass rushers, then that's a significant failure.

Still, I expect Ballard to add another DL and DE high in the draft. If you can't get a pass rush with 4 1st/2nd round picks on the DL, then is the problem a lack of commitment of resources to the problem?

[VeveJones007]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Former Ravens LB CJ Mosley intends to sign a 5-year, $85 million deal with the Jets, as @RapSheet said. Jets land Anthony Barr and Mosley.

:cool:

If Mosley is worth $17MM/year, Darius Leonard is going to get $20MM on an extension in 2021.

[Chromeburn]

There are two primary sources of improvement from Ballard's strategy.

1) Draft
2) Develop

We tend to focus on #1, but #2 is even more important. If the coaching staff can't develop Turay and Lewis into quality pass rushers, then that's a significant failure.

Still, I expect Ballard to add another DL and DE high in the draft. If you can't get a pass rush with 4 1st/2nd round picks on the DL, then is the problem a lack of commitment of resources to the problem?

I’m all for drafting a DE but depending on a rookie for pass rush usually doesn’t work out well. We needed someone to help bridge the gap. With a rotation that shouldn’t be a problem. Plus we are now driven by need instead of bpa. Luckily this draft matches our needs.

I hope the second year guys develop bc it looks like they will be it and a lower tier FA.

[Indiana V2]

It's not overpaying, it's called making a deal.

[Coltsalr]

@gmbremer
Interested to see if the #Colts kick the tires on Earl Thomas. Obviously, he's outside the scope of Ballard's usual moves. But at 29, he's unlikely to get an exorbitantly long deal, and there are several Seattle connections in the FO.


https://twitter.com/gmbremer/status/1105508622044446721?s=21

That would be interesting. Not gonna get my hopes up and I think he’d be a bit of a puzzling complement to Hooker, but I’ll take what I can get at this point. Would probably be a great mentor to Hooker as well.

[Coltsalr]

Not that I myself was particularly high on him but for those that have mentioned him:

@HolderStephen
I know a lot of you have asked about Denver’s Shaquil Barrett as a possible option for the Colts. Checked into him and it sounds like the Colts view him as more of a 3-4 OLB. Doesn’t seem likely to land here.

[Chromeburn]

@gmbremer
Interested to see if the #Colts kick the tires on Earl Thomas. Obviously, he's outside the scope of Ballard's usual moves. But at 29, he's unlikely to get an exorbitantly long deal, and there are several Seattle connections in the FO.


https://twitter.com/gmbremer/status/1105508622044446721?s=21

That would be interesting. Not gonna get my hopes up and I think he’d be a bit of a puzzling complement to Hooker, but I’ll take what I can get at this point. Would probably be a great mentor to Hooker as well.

It would mean both safeties can switch off into a cover 1 andcwould provide some deceptive packages. But I don’t know if Hooker is the best inbox safety now. He has improved, but he isn’t an Amos or Collins.

Would be a great mentor for Hooker, if Thomas is willing.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account Jets land Anthony Barr and Mosley.

:cool:


Not now.....Barr pulled a McVisor and called off the Jets deal and is staying with Minnesota. He likes the Vikings and Minny increased their offer.


https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1105510083931320329

https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1105512330341814272

[rcubed]

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet

The #Packers aren’t done: They are also signing #Bears S Adrian Amos, sources say. Two big deals, two huge additions on D. A former rival comes to Green Bay.

:cool:
I was kind of hoping we would land amos

[FatDT]

@gmbremer
Interested to see if the #Colts kick the tires on Earl Thomas. Obviously, he's outside the scope of Ballard's usual moves. But at 29, he's unlikely to get an exorbitantly long deal, and there are several Seattle connections in the FO.


https://twitter.com/gmbremer/status/1105508622044446721?s=21

That would be interesting. Not gonna get my hopes up and I think he’d be a bit of a puzzling complement to Hooker, but I’ll take what I can get at this point. Would probably be a great mentor to Hooker as well.

Not a fan of asking Hooker to come up into the box. Thomas can do it all but putting him mostly in the box seems like a waste of his talents. I don't see him as a fit unless he just can't find a deal.

[VeveJones007]

Not that I myself was particularly high on him but for those that have mentioned him:

@HolderStephen
I know a lot of you have asked about Denver’s Shaquil Barrett as a possible option for the Colts. Checked into him and it sounds like the Colts view him as more of a 3-4 OLB. Doesn’t seem likely to land here.

That's one of those where I'll trust Eberflus and the scouts to determine whether or not he would fit.

[smitty46953]

Dov Kleiman‏Verified account @NFL_DovKleiman

Former #49ers, #Cardinals and #Colts Safety Antoine Bethea will sign a 2-year deal with the #Giants, per @ReggieWayne_17

Bethea was originally a 6th round pick by the #Colts in 2006

:cool:

[Hoopsdoc]

Florio says the Colts are not pursuing Le’veon Bell.

Thank God.

[FatDT]

Florio says the Colts are not pursuing Le’veon Bell.

Thank God.

I also read the per year average he'd been offered by teams was between $11M and $12M/year. Probably not what he was hoping for.

[YDFL Commish]

Dov Kleiman‏Verified account @NFL_DovKleiman

Former #49ers, #Cardinals and #Colts Safety Antoine Bethea will sign a 2-year deal with the #Giants, per @ReggieWayne_17

Bethea was originally a 6th round pick by the #Colts in 2006

:cool:

Fuck! Is Bethea going to play forever?

[Pez]

There are two primary sources of improvement from Ballard's strategy.

1) Draft
2) Develop

We tend to focus on #1, but #2 is even more important. If the coaching staff can't develop Turay and Lewis into quality pass rushers, then that's a significant failure.

Still, I expect Ballard to add another DL and DE high in the draft. If you can't get a pass rush with 4 1st/2nd round picks on the DL, then is the problem a lack of commitment of resources to the problem?

The inability to develop Turay and Lewis into quality pass rushers is Not a failure by itself. keeping them around after they fail to develop, or keeping the staff around that fails to develop them would make it a failure.

[Luck4Reich]

I feel more confident we have coaches that can actually develop players unlike the last asshat.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Is Bethea going to play forever?

I think he is trying to keep up with Frank Gore.

Gore was drafted the year before Bethea.

[Chromeburn]

I was kind of hoping we would land amos

I was kind of hoping we would land one of the Smiths.

[TheMugwump]

If Mosley is worth $17MM/year, Darius Leonard is going to get $20MM on an extension in 2021.

Mosley was the one guy I was most hoping to get.

And then I saw the contract.

Let's say that they overpaid a little bit for him. By maybe 4.5 - 5 million a year.

We're good with Ballard doing what he does.

[Luck4Reich]

Jets fans must get really tired.

[smitty46953]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Here are the trade terms: Giants recieve a first-round pick in 2019 (No. 17 overall), the Browns' second third-round pick this year and S Jabril Peppers, source tells ESPN. Browns get Odell Beckham Jr.

:cool:

Browns offense going be awesome if Mayfield continues to progress
Baker Mayfield
Nick Chubb
Kareem Hunt
Odell Beckham
Jarvis Landry
Antonio Callaway
David Njoku

[smitty46953]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Former Dolphins’ DE Cameron Wake intends to sign a three-year, $23 million deal that includes $10 million guaranteed with the Tennessee Titans, per source.

Titans upgrading both lines and Wake playing younger than his 37 years.

:cool:

[omahacolt]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Here are the trade terms: Giants recieve a first-round pick in 2019 (No. 17 overall), the Browns' second third-round pick this year and S Jabril Peppers, source tells ESPN. Browns get Odell Beckham Jr.

:cool:

Browns offense going be awesome if Mayfield continues to progress
Baker Mayfield
Nick Chubb
Kareem Hunt
Odell Beckham
Jarvis Landry
Antonio Callaway
David Njokuthat is insane

[YDFL Commish]

that is insane

That is fucking scary!

[smitty46953]

Manish Mehta‏Verified account @MMehtaNYDN

Henry Anderson’s three-year is for $25.2 million ... with a max value of $33M, per source.

Jets wanted him back badly. Great move.

:cool:

ex Colt getting paid

[omahacolt]

Manish Mehta‏Verified account @MMehtaNYDN

Henry Anderson’s three-year is for $25.2 million ... with a max value of $33M, per source.

Jets wanted him back badly. Great move.

:cool:

ex Colt getting paid

Ballard never should have got rid of him. Stupid move

[smitty46953]

Ballard never should have got rid of him. Stupid move

Yes, hated that move :cool:

[Brylok]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Here are the trade terms: Giants recieve a first-round pick in 2019 (No. 17 overall), the Browns' second third-round pick this year and S Jabril Peppers, source tells ESPN. Browns get Odell Beckham Jr.

:cool:

Browns offense going be awesome if Mayfield continues to progress
Baker Mayfield
Nick Chubb
Kareem Hunt
Odell Beckham
Jarvis Landry
Antonio Callaway
David Njoku

I don't care about the Browns, but I'm happy for their fans. Team has sucked since 1987 but the fans still attend games. Now they'll have a reason. It will be funny watching them whip the Steelers.

[smitty46953]

I don't care about the Browns, but I'm happy for their fans. Team has sucked since 1987 but the fans still attend games. Now they'll have a reason. It will be funny watching them whip the Steelers.

Yes, that will be great :cool:

[Brylok]

Ballard never should have got rid of him. Stupid move

Didn't that happen when they changed back to the 4-3 and said he didn't fit the scheme? I don't think I liked it either at the time

[Chromeburn]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Here are the trade terms: Giants recieve a first-round pick in 2019 (No. 17 overall), the Browns' second third-round pick this year and S Jabril Peppers, source tells ESPN. Browns get Odell Beckham Jr.

:cool:

Browns offense going be awesome if Mayfield continues to progress
Baker Mayfield
Nick Chubb
Kareem Hunt
Odell Beckham
Jarvis Landry
Antonio Callaway
David Njoku

Wow that is a young talented offense. Will be fun to watch. AFC North should look out. Did the Browns win the off season?

[Chromeburn]

Didn't that happen when they changed back to the 4-3 and said he didn't fit the scheme? I don't think I liked it either at the time

Yeah, they chose Hunt instead basically. Anderson has been in a 3-4 since college as a 5-tech.

[Dewey 5]

KC traded Dee Ford to SF for a 2020 2nd round pick. That angers me.

[Indiana V2]

Ok, I get the patience approach that Ballard takes, but we have cap money and picks, we could have easily made many of these moves.

[omahacolt]

Ok, I get the patience approach that Ballard takes, but we have cap money and picks, we could have easily made many of these moves.

Watching pass rushers disappear sucks

[Luck4Reich]

A little too quiet and reserved with that much cap room... dont want him to be stupid but damnit something!

[njcoltfan]

Ok, I get the patience approach that Ballard takes, but we have cap money and picks, we could have easily made many of these moves.

I just hope that Turay and Lewis make the proverbial 2nd year leap, because if the don't I have know idea where the pass rush will come from !! Dee Ford for a 2nd and not even this year !!!

[Colt Classic]

KC probably isn't keen on trading him at that price to a team they faced in the playoffs--even though it was a cakewalk. So yeah, out of conference discount possibly.

[Dewey 5]

Browns now working a 3 year deal for Earl Thomas. They just might be pretty good.

[Brylok]

Browns now working a 3 year deal for Earl Thomas. They just might be pretty good.
I agree with Chromeburn, they're winning the off season so far. The Raiders thought they were, but nope.

[Hoopsdoc]

Ballard never should have got rid of him. Stupid move

For a freakin 7th round pick. I’m not sure who that pick was used on but I guarantee you that guy won’t help the Colts as much as Anderson would have.

That dude was a baller.

[njcoltfan]

Colts are resigning Chris Milton to a 1 year contract.

[Hoopsdoc]

Colts are resigning Chris Milton to a 1 year contract.

Championship!!!!

[njcoltfan]

I agree with Chromeburn, they're winning the off season so far. The Raiders thought they were, but nope.

Packers are doing a pretty good job too.

[Dewey 5]

I agree with Chromeburn, they're winning the off season so far. The Raiders thought they were, but nope.

Looking at the Browns roster, not just the offensive fire power, but now with Oliver Vernon to go with Myles Garrett, holy smokes. I would say John Dorsey is all in & doesn't want to waste any time with Baker Mayfield. What a concept?!

[Brylok]

Looking at the Browns roster, not just the offensive fire power, but now with Oliver Vernon to go with Myles Garrett, holy smokes. I would say John Dorsey is all in & doesn't want to waste any time with Baker Mayfield. What a concept?!

It appears that they're going for it early having Mayfield at the helm, but that's a huge amount of talent/salary that won't be sustainable for very long. I hope they're successful other than against us because their fans deserve it. I actually want to watch some Browns games this season. I don't know if I've ever said that before

[VeveJones007]

Who wants to give me odds on the Colts winning more games and advancing further in the playoffs than the Browns?

[smitty46953]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Le’Veon Bell: 4 years, $52.5 million with the Jets, per source.

:cool:

[rcubed]

KC traded Dee Ford to SF for a 2020 2nd round pick. That angers me.
For fucks sake. Maybe we would have had to pay more as mentioned, but seriously!? Come on man.

[FatDT]

For fucks sake. Maybe we would have had to pay more as mentioned, but seriously!? Come on man.

I'm not convinced he would've done well as a hand-down DE.

[Coltsalr]

I'm not convinced he would've done well as a hand-down DE.

I’d argue it’s worth a 2020 2nd rounder to figure that out.

[Chaka]

I'm not convinced he would've done well as a hand-down DE.

It also bears mentioning that as a part of that trade, the 49ers signed him to a five-year, $87.5MM contract ($17.5M average annual value) with $45 million in guarantees. So you'd need to be okay with doing that as well if you're going to complain about the Colts failure to make this move. Not saying its a bad or good deal, since I don't know a whole lot about Dee Ford, but just that the financial aspects of these kind of deals are often ignored and the focus is only on the draft pick compensation.

[smitty46953]

I’d argue it’s worth a 2020 2nd rounder to figure that out.

Not at that salary, not worth the gamble that he can play in a 4-3 … :cool:

[Oldcolt]

I read that KC thought he was a bad fit for the 4-3 they are changing to. We are "losing" the off season. Good. Its a rare duck that "wins" the off season and repeats in the real season. Keep doing what you're doing Ballard (although Luck to Beckham would have been a sight to see-I understand not having 50-60 million tied up in your qb and top two recievers)

[Dam8610]

Not at that salary, not worth the gamble that he can play in a 4-3 … :cool:

I don't know that I would've wanted the Colts to give him that salary had he hit the open market.

[VeveJones007]

I’d argue it’s worth a 2020 2nd rounder to figure that out.

But it wasn't just a 2020 2nd. It was a 2020 2nd + a 5 year $87.5MM contract. That changes the risk calculus.

[VeveJones007]

Not at that salary, not worth the gamble that he can play in a 4-3 … :cool:

That, and we already know he can't play the run very well, too. As much pissing and moaning as there is in the Funchess thread, that's a one year deal and all they lose is some of the abundance of cap space. That deal for Ford would have been awful.

[VeveJones007]

I read that KC thought he was a bad fit for the 4-3 they are changing to. We are "losing" the off season. Good. Its a rare duck that "wins" the off season and repeats in the real season. Keep doing what you're doing Ballard (although Luck to Beckham would have been a sight to see-I understand not having 50-60 million tied up in your qb and top two recievers)

Holder said the Colts were also wary of why KC would be trying to move him. Is there a locker room issue? They are also moving to a 4-3, so they may not see him as a scheme fit.

[Chaka]

But it wasn't just a 2020 2nd. It was a 2020 2nd + a 5 year $87.5MM contract. That changes the risk calculus.

Yep - of COURSE Dee Ford is worth next year's 2nd round pick. Nobody can reasonably question that. It's the contract that makes this a harder question (and the very reason why the 49ers could get him for a 2nd in the first place).

Next year's second round pick, even if he plays well, might not make $17.5m in his first four years combined, and if he flames out the damage to the team is far less than if Dee Ford flames out at that contract.

[Oldcolt]

I try to remember exactly what the plan is that Ballard has. Build thru the trenches. He has got the offensive line on the right path. We all can see that the defensive line need development. There are upgrades available in free agency but nobody that is a game changer. Does anybody really worry about Flowers when you play NE? Stay the course and don't overpay. You may lose out on a great player once in a while but the vast majority of time you're just paying a guy for the performance he gave another team. Very happy with how free agency is going. We are trying to build a balanced team. This group has earned my trust

[Chaka]

I try to remember exactly what the plan is that Ballard has. Build thru the trenches. He has got the offensive line on the right path. We all can see that the defensive line need development. There are upgrades available in free agency but nobody that is a game changer. Does anybody really worry about Flowers when you play NE? Stay the course and don't overpay. You may lose out on a great player once in a while but the vast majority of time you're just paying a guy for the performance he gave another team. Very happy with how free agency is going. We are trying to build a balanced team. This group has earned my trust

Well said. I agree.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Holder said the Colts were also wary of why KC would be trying to move him. Is there a locker room issue? They are also moving to a 4-3, so they may not see him as a scheme fit.


Ford played in a 4-3 scheme in college at Auburn. So I think all the "scheme fit" talk is a little overblown. The 49'ers run a 4-3 scheme, too.

I think the bigger concern was handing over that large of a contract to a player that has had some inconsistencies, stats wise.

Ford's sack totals the first 5 years of his career - 1.5, 4.0, 10.0, 2.0 (only played 6 games), 13.0.

Ford's QB hits - 5, 11, 17, 7, 29.

I realize that very few pass rushers become available and free agent contracts can be rather bloated but he got a very nice contract. I assume the 49'ers hope he can replicate last year's totals every year of that deal. I don't think Kansas City thought he could produce consistently at that level.

[VeveJones007]

I try to remember exactly what the plan is that Ballard has. Build thru the trenches. He has got the offensive line on the right path. We all can see that the defensive line need development. There are upgrades available in free agency but nobody that is a game changer. Does anybody really worry about Flowers when you play NE? Stay the course and don't overpay. You may lose out on a great player once in a while but the vast majority of time you're just paying a guy for the performance he gave another team. Very happy with how free agency is going. We are trying to build a balanced team. This group has earned my trust

I've been assuming it for a month now--expect a DL and DE at 26 & 34. That'll give the team 4 players on the DL who were 1st and 2nd round picks of the Colts. And the grand total is 6 if you include Sheard (2nd round in 2011) and Hunt (2nd round in 2013).

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Appears the Cheats and DE John Simon are working on a new deal. Expected to be finalized today.


https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1105805792836497409

[Chromeburn]

Ford played in a 4-3 scheme in college at Auburn. So I think all the "scheme fit" talk is a little overblown. The 49'ers run a 4-3 scheme, too.

I think the bigger concern was handing over that large of a contract to a player that has had some inconsistencies, stats wise.

Ford's sack totals the first 5 years of his career - 1.5, 4.0, 10.0, 2.0 (only played 6 games), 13.0.

Ford's QB hits - 5, 11, 17, 7, 29.

I realize that very few pass rushers become available and free agent contracts can be rather bloated but he got a very nice contract. I assume the 49'ers hope he can replicate last year's totals every year of that deal. I don't think Kansas City thought he could produce consistently at that level.

I don't think Ford was being considered. Ford has too many question marks and also he isn't that great against the run. Ballard has said he wants his ends to be able to defend the run as well. Turay was awful in run defense last year, he doesn't want another guy out there with him compounding the problem. I think he went after both Smiths but he didn't want to spend that much. I don't think he was interested in Flowers, everyone knew Miami and Detroit were going to chase him.

[Chromeburn]

Appears the Cheats and DE John Simon are working on a new deal. Expected to be finalized today.


https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1105805792836497409

Good for him, we should not have cut him. But it all worked out from his perspective.

[FatDT]

Yeah it worked out great for Simon. He won a SB and is getting a new contract. Both at the time and now, it looked/looks pretty dumb to cut him and then later cut whoever that 2nd year player is that couldn't hack it.

[rcubed]

Not at that salary, not worth the gamble that he can play in a 4-3 … :cool:
agree, I didnt know the salary numbers. thats too much for possibly not making the switch

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

whoever that 2nd year player is that couldn't hack it.


Tarell Basham

[smitty46953]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Former Seahawks’ S Earl Thomas intends to sign a four-year, $55 million deal that includes $32 million fully guaranteed at signing with the Baltimore Ravens, league source tells ESPN. Deal includes $22 million in first nine months.

:cool:

[smitty46953]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Former Saints’ RB Mark Ingram intends to sign a three-year, $15 million deal with the Baltimore Ravens

:cool:

[Indiana V2]

I hate free agency...especially when we have the most money to spend.

[smitty46953]

Couple years ago every other post was "Do something Grigs" anyone recall that? :cool:

[smitty46953]

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet

Source: The #Chargers agreed to terms with QB Tyrod Taylor on a 2-year deal.

:cool:

[Chromeburn]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Former Seahawks’ S Earl Thomas intends to sign a four-year, $55 million deal that includes $32 million fully guaranteed at signing with the Baltimore Ravens, league source tells ESPN. Deal includes $22 million in first nine months.

:cool:

Haha Ravens started thinking about Landry and OBJ staring down their defense twice a year.

[smitty46953]

Of all the deals over last couple days there is really only one I would have really liked for the Colts …

Adrian Amos signed with the Packers 4 years, $36M with $12M guaranteed

I think this would have been good for us. I also heard guarantee was all first 2 years. :cool:

[smitty46953]

Rotoworld Football‏Verified account @Rotoworld_FB


Redskins released ILB Zach Brown.

The move clears $5.75 million in cap room for the Redskins. Brown will turn 30 later this year but remains a productive off-ball linebacker. He graded out as Pro Football Focus' No. 3 inside linebacker out of 61 qualifiers last season, finishing behind only Luke Kuechly and Bobby Wagner. Washington tried to trade him but found no takers. Brown should find a new home relatively quickly.

:cool:

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Schefty reports WR Tyrell Williams to Raiders. No contract details yet.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1105891283342671875

[sherck]

Rotoworld Football‏Verified account @Rotoworld_FB





Redskins released ILB Zach Brown.



The move clears $5.75 million in cap room for the Redskins. Brown will turn 30 later this year but remains a productive off-ball linebacker. He graded out as Pro Football Focus' No. 3 inside linebacker out of 61 qualifiers last season, finishing behind only Luke Kuechly and Bobby Wagner. Washington tried to trade him but found no takers. Brown should find a new home relatively quickly.



:cool:Zach Brown to ILB beside Leonard with Walker as depth and SSLB when needed? That is an upgrade.

But Ballard is not signing a 30 year old player who is not a kicker. Young core above all at this stage of team development.

Walk Worthy,

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

[Oldcolt]

Agree completely. The key word is development. We are still trying to develop our young guys. They have to play to do that. Taking away snaps so that you have a slight increase in production for a couple of years doesn't do that. I like that Ballard is all in. Nothing good happens when you half ass it. There is more than one way to build a super bowl team, but it really helps to at least have a way.

[ukcolt]

I've been assuming it for a month now--expect a DL and DE at 26 & 34. That'll give the team 4 players on the DL who were 1st and 2nd round picks of the Colts. And the grand total is 6 if you include Sheard (2nd round in 2011) and Hunt (2nd round in 2013).

Add in Jihad Ward who was a 2nd round pick (44th overall) in 2016 by the Raiders who actually played quite well in his limited playing time last year. Like to see what he might contribute this season assuming he is back to full health.

[smitty46953]

Kansas City Chiefs‏Verified account @Chiefs

We have released safety Eric Berry.

:cool:

[Coltsalr]

Kansas City Chiefs‏Verified account @Chiefs

We have released safety Eric Berry.

:cool:

Dare I ask?

[smitty46953]

Dare I ask?

No chance in decline :cool: Need Geathers next …

[VeveJones007]

Add in Jihad Ward who was a 2nd round pick (44th overall) in 2016 by the Raiders who actually played quite well in his limited playing time last year. Like to see what he might contribute this season assuming he is back to full health.

Good call. Emmanuel Ogbah is on the block as well. That could be interesting depending on price.

[ukcolt]

I would like to kick the tyres on Berry and see what he has left. His play hasn't declined, he just hasn't been on the field the last 2 seasons. So if he is finally healthy, he could be a big contributor. We are in the fortunate position that Ballard should have an inside track on him generally though. So i trust his judgement completely if he decides to stay away.

[VeveJones007]

Vikings are getting calls on CB Trae Waynes. Good player, but more of a man corner.

[ukcolt]

For a guy who has played for 9 years he has only seen the field for 89 regular season games, as he missed pretty much the entirety of 4 season, and half of another. But he has managed to stay healthy for 4 full seasons in his career. I am not sure what sort of injuries he has suffered though. But for the length of his career he has relatively few miles on the clock.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Schefty reports WR Tyrell Williams to Raiders. No contract details yet.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1105891283342671875


Contract details for Tyrell Williams:

4 year, $44 million deal with up to $3M additional in incentives; includes $22M guaranteed

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1105936225888882688

[rm1369]

Zach Brown to ILB beside Leonard with Walker as depth and SSLB when needed? That is an upgrade.

But Ballard is not signing a 30 year old player who is not a kicker. Young core above all at this stage of team development.

Walk Worthy,

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

This is the mindset I disagree with. You add players thru the draft every damn year. Are you suggesting that player development won’t be a concern 2 years from now? 3 years from now? I seriously doubt it. Player development is a critical aspect for any team. Certainly there is a line, but you have to trust your coaches. The idea every spot has to be held open for a young guy to develop is BS. Fuck that. They were a playoff team last year. How long do you gift players playing time? Acquire talent and let guys compete.

[VeveJones007]

Zach Brown to ILB beside Leonard with Walker as depth and SSLB when needed? That is an upgrade.

But Ballard is not signing a 30 year old player who is not a kicker. Young core above all at this stage of team development.

Walk Worthy,

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

I still think they sign a veteran SAM in free agency once the market settles. Same with NT.

[JAFF]

This is the mindset I disagree with. You add players thru the draft every damn year. Are you suggesting that player development won’t be a concern 2 years from now? 3 years from now? I seriously doubt it. Player development is a critical aspect for any team. Certainly there is a line, but you have to trust your coaches. The idea every spot has to be held open for a young guy to develop is BS. Fuck that. They were a playoff team last year. How long do you gift players playing time? Acquire talent and let guys compete.

You are arguing in a vacuum. If Ballard has some draft picks in mind, he doesn't care what other people think about how he targets players.

People killed him for taking a G at number one. And they thought Leonard was drafted too high. WTF, how did that work?

That 30 yr old LB may still be available after the draft. Then you go get him. I can't think of his name, the safety they signed after the second week and he played well and coached up the younger DB's. Those guys are out there, so what's the urgency of signing a vet now?

[VeveJones007]

You are arguing in a vacuum. If Ballard has some draft picks in mind, he doesn't care what other people think about how he targets players.

People killed him for taking a G at number one. And they thought Leonard was drafted too high. WTF, how did that work?

That 30 yr old LB may still be available after the draft. Then you go get him. I can't think of his name, the safety they signed after the second week and he played well and coached up the younger DB's. Those guys are out there, so what's the urgency of signing a vet now?

That's what I've been picturing for SAM and NT. Those are worth bringing in a vet, but you don't have to do something crazy early in free agency. Good players can be had later this spring.

[Puck]

A few players still out there.... Thoughts ?


DB Adrian Phillips

DT Darius Philon

RB C.J. Anderson

DE Shane Ray

DE Benson Mayowa

DT Brent Urban

DT Ndamukong Suh

DE Ziggy Ansah

RB Tevin Coleman

CB Ronald Darby

TE Jared Cook

WR Golden Tate

ILB Zach Brown

LB Shaquil Barrett

S Ha Ha Clinton-Dix

[VeveJones007]

A few players still out there.... Thoughts ?


DB Adrian Phillips

DT Darius Philon

RB C.J. Anderson

DE Shane Ray

DE Benson Mayowa

DT Brent Urban

DT Ndamukong Suh

DE Ziggy Ansah

RB Tevin Coleman

CB Ronald Darby

TE Jared Cook

WR Golden Tate

ILB Zach Brown

LB Shaquil Barrett

S Ha Ha Clinton-Dix

I think Philon is a fit but I don’t know if there’s a sure thing roster spot available for a DL other than maybe a NT.

Holder said the Colts didn’t see Barrett as a 4-3 DE. Wonder if they feel the same about Ray.

I predict they sign one or two players we aren’t even thinking about.

[rm1369]

You are arguing in a vacuum. If Ballard has some draft picks in mind, he doesn't care what other people think about how he targets players.

People killed him for taking a G at number one. And they thought Leonard was drafted too high. WTF, how did that work?

That 30 yr old LB may still be available after the draft. Then you go get him. I can't think of his name, the safety they signed after the second week and he played well and coached up the younger DB's. Those guys are out there, so what's the urgency of signing a vet now?

I’m honestly not sure what anything you said has to do with what I said.

Of course I know Ballard doesn’t care what I or anyone else thinks. And he shouldn’t.

Are you arguing that if we had signed a vet in their spot that Nelson or Leonard may not be as good as they are? If so then the coaching staff sucks - unless the guys Ballard signed where pro bowl caliber. And if that’s the case then I’d say it’s a good problem to have.

Who said anything about signing a guy now? I commented on the mindset of not bringing in a vet player because he may take snaps from young guy. Before or after the draft wasn’t part of anything said. Although I would say waiting to acquire players until after the draft doesn’t make sense in most situations except maybe early first rounders. Otherwise the BPA approach everyone talks about is BS. Ballard can’t know who he’s going to draft. Holding open playing time for a 3rd-7th roudnder is ridiculous. Make them earn it.

[VeveJones007]

Ajayi will visit the Colts next week and take a physical. If his knee checks out, he could fill a role as the power back next year.

[Coltsalr]

Ajayi will visit the Colts next week and take a physical. If his knee checks out, he could fill a role as the power back next year.

As long as he replaces Turbin only and doesn’t risk Wilkins’ roster spot I’m good with this.

[YDFL Commish]

As long as he replaces Turbin only and doesn’t risk Wilkins’ roster spot I’m good with this.

I like our young RB's. I don't wanna fuck with this. If Ballard wants to bring in a guy via the draft to compete...I'm much better with that.

[omahacolt]

I still think they sign a veteran SAM in free agency once the market settles. Same with NT.

Don’t need a veteran SAM. Let the kid keep at it. We run mostly sub packages anyway.

[omahacolt]

I would like to have Suh to be honest. Always liked that dude

[YDFL Commish]

Don’t need a veteran SAM. Let the kid keep at it. We run mostly sub packages anyway.

I agree, but we still need improvement at SAM.

At times last season it seemed like both Walker and Leonard felt like they had to help the SAM. We need better production there. Maybe Franklin or Adams improve...but they need competition.

[VeveJones007]

Don’t need a veteran SAM. Let the kid keep at it. We run mostly sub packages anyway.

I thought Adams was fine last year, so it isn’t high on my list. I just think it’s worth exploring if there’s a good 1 year vet available for competition/depth.

[smitty46953]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Jaguars released QB Blake Bortles.

:cool:

[Coltsalr]

I would like to have Suh to be honest. Always liked that dude

Agreed. Suh supposedly wants to stay on the West Coast. I’m sure he has a price whereby he’d come back to the Midwest but that’s not really Ballard’s style, alas.

[Luck4Reich]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Jaguars released QB Blake Bortles.

:cool:

Shocker!!:cool:

And P.M. Smitty.

[smitty46953]

Shocker!!:cool:

And P.M. Smitty.

Didn't get a PM ? :cool:

[Luck4Reich]

Didn't get a PM ? :cool:

Try again sorry

[smitty46953]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Former Jaguars’ WR Donte Moncrief reached agreement on a two-year deal with the Pittsburgh Steelers, per source.

:cool:

AB Who ?

[Pez]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Former Jaguars’ WR Donte Moncrief reached agreement on a two-year deal with the Pittsburgh Steelers, per source.

:cool:

AB Who ?

Always been fond of Moncrief. I think the Steelers are a good fit for him.

[smitty46953]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

49ers signing Tevin Coleman to a two-year, $10 million deal, per source.

:cool:

[Luck4Reich]

Always been fond of Moncrief. I think the Steelers are a good fit for him.

I wish him well. Jags wasnt a good fit .
Steelers will probably better utilize him.

[rm1369]

Always been fond of Moncrief. I think the Steelers are a good fit for him.

I’ve been a fan of his talent. He had some bad Luck towards the end of his time in Indy with his injury and then Lucks injury. It just never quite came together for him here ike I thought it would. Definitely hope he puts it all together somewhere.

[FatDT]

I wanted to keep Moncrief but not for the $10M he got.

But then again if I'd known we were going to sign Funchess for $10M + incentives, I probably would've said we should just sign Moncrief. I think playing w/healthy Luck and in Reich's offense would've been good for him.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Former Jaguars’ WR Donte Moncrief reached agreement on a two-year deal with the Pittsburgh Steelers, per source.

:cool:

AB Who ?



I am wondering with this news if the freaks banner will now be updated. I thought maybe edgeman was secretly hoping that Moncrief would return to the Colts this offseason after his one year of purgatory in JAX. If Moncrief returned, edgeman wouldn't have had to update the banner. Donte foiled his plans. :D

[smitty46953]

I am wondering with this news if the freaks banner will now be updated. I thought maybe edgeman was secretly hoping that Moncrief would return to the Colts this offseason after his one year of purgatory in JAX. If Moncrief returned, edgeman wouldn't have had to update the banner. Donte foiled his plans. :D

Nah, he just lazy :cool:

[Hoopsdoc]

I’ve been a fan of his talent. He had some bad Luck towards the end of his time in Indy with his injury and then Lucks injury. It just never quite came together for him here ike I thought it would. Definitely hope he puts it all together somewhere.

Always liked Moncrief too. It just seemed like he should have been better than he was, with all the talent he has.

[JAFF]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Former Jaguars’ WR Donte Moncrief reached agreement on a two-year deal with the Pittsburgh Steelers, per source.

:cool:

AB Who ?

Yeah, that will make it better in Pittsburg.

[Spike]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Jaguars released QB Blake Bortles.

:cool:

Damn it, always loved Blake on the Jags.

[Brylok]

Patience. I must have patience...
But it's Friday and we had $100 million and all we have to show for it is Funchess, Desir, and Milton
Patience...

[rcubed]

Rob Demovsky
✔
@RobDemovsky
Former Packers safety Kentrell Brice is visiting the Colts today after spending yesterday with the Texans. Bucs also interested after GB opted not to tender him.

anyone know about this guy who is coming in to visit?

[Chromeburn]

Rob Demovsky
✔
@RobDemovsky
Former Packers safety Kentrell Brice is visiting the Colts today after spending yesterday with the Texans. Bucs also interested after GB opted not to tender him.

anyone know about this guy who is coming in to visit?

UDFA with spot playing time in Green Bay. Did pretty well at the combine. Probably a depth signing. We haven't found our starter yet. Might draft him if they don't resign Geathers. Might draft one anyway even if we sign Geathers, because Geathers has started half his games?

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Tampa Bay signs Shaq Barrett to a 1 year - $5MM deal.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1106618090157166592

[rm1369]

Tampa Bay signs Shaq Barrett to a 1 year - $5MM deal.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1106618090157166592

That’s seems very low. I guess Ballard had no interest in him, because it’s hard to believe the money was an issue.

[FatDT]

That’s seems very low. I guess Ballard had no interest in him, because it’s hard to believe the money was an issue.

I read somewhere, maybe from Holder, that the Colts saw him as a 3-4 OLB only and not a down lineman.

[VeveJones007]

I read somewhere, maybe from Holder, that the Colts saw him as a 3-4 OLB only and not a down lineman.

Yep, that’s what Holder said. Makes sense for TB as they move to a 3-4.

[Luck4Reich]

Rob Demovsky
✔
@RobDemovsky
Former Packers safety Kentrell Brice is visiting the Colts today after spending yesterday with the Texans. Bucs also interested after GB opted not to tender him.

anyone know about this guy who is coming in to visit?

Depth and special teams.

[Dam8610]

RB Jay Ajayi to visit Colts (https://coltswire.usatoday.com/2019/03/13/nfl-free-agency-indianapolis-colts-jay-ajayi-visit/amp/)

[Butter]

I would love a back like Ajayi at the right price. I think we missed having the power back that Turbin was last year.

[Coltsalr]

I like the idea of having Ajayi but I also like our guys.

Bring in Ajayi, but only if it doesn’t potentially jeopardize Wilkins/Hines.

[Dam8610]

I like the idea of having Ajayi but I also like our guys.

Bring in Ajayi, but only if it doesn’t potentially jeopardize Wilkins/Hines.

1) Mack
2) Ajayi
3) Hines
4) Wilkins

Looks good to me. They're going to carry 4 RBs anyway.

[Indiana V2]

I like the idea of having Ajayi but I also like our guys.

Bring in Ajayi, but only if it doesn’t potentially jeopardize Wilkins/Hines.

I don't see them getting rid of Hines, in fact I expect them to utilize him even more this season. Wilkins may be a casualty though if they bring in another back.

[Luck4Reich]

I don't see them getting rid of Hines, in fact I expect them to utilize him even more this season. Wilkins may be a casualty though if they bring in another back.

That would be stupid. I feel like Wilkins showed a lot of promise.

[Coltsalr]

1) Mack
2) Ajayi
3) Hines
4) Wilkins

Looks good to me. They're going to carry 4 RBs anyway.

Agreed.

[YDFL Commish]

I would rather have CJ Anderson or draft Rodney Anderson.

[Puck]

I would love a back like Ajayi at the right price. I think we missed having the power back that Turbin was last year.

I don’t think ajayi is a power back at all. I think he is a better receiving version of Marlin Mack. Not a lot of difference in running styles at all to me

[FatDT]

Wilkins might be a little better inside runner, but he’s slow. He’ll never do anything at the 2nd level. No reason to pass on an available RB if he’s an upgrade to Wilkins. Without this OL no one would think Wilkins was worth anything.

[Chromeburn]

I would rather have CJ Anderson or draft Rodney Anderson.

I like Rodney Anderson, he could be a sleeper for us. He hasn’t been able to stay healthy, but might have an easier time in a rotation. He can do everything a feature back can.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Geathers is meeting with Dallas today.

https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1107655436596101125

[Maniac]

Why would we bring in Ajayi? How many RB's are near their former selves in the first year back from an ACL? Not many.

[Dam8610]

Why would we bring in Ajayi? How many RB's are near their former selves in the first year back from an ACL? Not many.

Because a solid #2 with a similar skillset to Mack is needed in case he goes down and getting that from a 25 yo on a reasonable FA contract rather than needing to spend a draft pick for it is a pretty reasonable idea.

[FatDT]

Because a solid #2 with a similar skillset to Mack is needed in case he goes down and getting that from a 25 yo on a reasonable FA contract rather than needing to spend a draft pick for it is a pretty reasonable idea.

He's a better pass catcher IMO. He should be cheap. If he gets anything I'm sure it'll be a one year deal. Maybe w/team option but I can't imagine his market is very hot. He must just fit Reich's offense well when healthy.

[Dam8610]

He's a better pass catcher IMO. He should be cheap. If he gets anything I'm sure it'll be a one year deal. Maybe w/team option but I can't imagine his market is very hot. He must just fit Reich's offense well when healthy.

Well he was the feature back on the Eagles championship team for which Reich was OC.

[FatDT]

Well he was the feature back on the Eagles championship team for which Reich was OC.

Didn't Sproles do a lot of the damage from the RB position that year though? Hard to believe that little man is still playing.

[Maniac]

Because a solid #2 with a similar skillset to Mack is needed in case he goes down and getting that from a 25 yo on a reasonable FA contract rather than needing to spend a draft pick for it is a pretty reasonable idea.

He's not going to be a solid #2. He's going to be half the RB he was previously this year at best. Why bother? You can find better options than a RB coming off an ACL.

[Dam8610]

Didn't Sproles do a lot of the damage from the RB position that year though? Hard to believe that little man is still playing.

I believe Ajayi was the RB that had the most touches and snaps per game on that team, at least during their playoff run, but I could be wrong.

He's not going to be a solid #2. He's going to be half the RB he was previously this year at best. Why bother? You can find better options than a RB coming off an ACL.

Well shit, if you can predict the future, tell Ballard which guys in the draft will be All-Pros and Pro Bowlers so he can draft them.

[Maniac]

I believe Ajayi was the RB that had the most touches and snaps per game on that team, at least during their playoff run, but I could be wrong.



Well shit, if you can predict the future, tell Ballard which guys in the draft will be All-Pros and Pro Bowlers so he can draft them.

Don't be stupid. You know the numbers for RB's that come back anywhere near their former selves in that first year is incredibly small. The overwhelming odds say he won't be very good this next season, so why sign him and waste a spot?

[Dam8610]

Don't be stupid. You know the numbers for RB's that come back anywhere near their former selves in that first year is incredibly small. The overwhelming odds say he won't be very good this next season, so why sign him and waste a spot?

The Colts don't need him to be a starting caliber RB. They need him to be a quality backup who can give 10-15 touches and 15-25 snaps per game of quality production. In that role, he could produce decent numbers.

[JAFF]

The Colts don't need him to be a starting caliber RB. They need him to be a quality backup who can give 10-15 touches and 15-25 snaps per game of quality production. In that role, he could produce decent numbers.

So you want a guy who's half of what he was for only half the time?

Go get a college guy for less money who can go 100%

[Brylok]

Geathers is meeting with Dallas today.

https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1107655436596101125

I saw a tweet somewhere that said he and the cowboys aren't close and it likely won't be happening. I wonder how much money he wants? We need him, but he has missed 22 games in the last 3 years so idk...

[Dam8610]

So you want a guy who's half of what he was for only half the time?

Go get a college guy for less money who can go 100%

I don't believe I ever said I want Ajayi, but I understand the logic behind this move in that spending a small amount of the ridiculous amount of cap room the Colts have on getting a decent RB2 and giving the team more draft capital for defense makes sense.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

I saw a tweet somewhere that said he and the cowboys aren't close and it likely won't be happening. I wonder how much money he wants? We need him, but he has missed 22 games in the last 3 years so idk...


I imagine it is probably a similar situation as with Desir. Ballard told him to go out and see what he could get on the open market and then hopefully give the Colts the opportunity to match or beat the offer if they want to.

[Maniac]

The Colts don't need him to be a starting caliber RB. They need him to be a quality backup who can give 10-15 touches and 15-25 snaps per game of quality production. In that role, he could produce decent numbers.

When healthy, yes. Coming off an ACL? Highly unlikely

[Dam8610]

When healthy, yes. Coming off an ACL? Highly unlikely

He averaged 5.8 ypc on 70 carries and 9.1 ypr on 10 receptions in 7 regular season games with the Eagles and 4.4 ypc on 42 carries and 11.7 ypr on 6 receptions in 3 playoff games. If he's a little worse than that, it will still be fine for a RB2.

[Luck4Reich]

Get a room you two.:eek:

[Maniac]

He averaged 5.8 ypc on 70 carries and 9.1 ypr on 10 receptions in 7 regular season games with the Eagles and 4.4 ypc on 42 carries and 11.7 ypr on 6 receptions in 3 playoff games. If he's a little worse than that, it will still be fine for a RB2.


Yes, we could all look up his pre-injury stats. Most backs aren't anywhere close to their normal pre-injury numbers just after an ACL, and if that is the case, he would be a waste of an active roster spot this season. Maybe he will defy the long odds against him, but I wouldn't bet on it.

[Maniac]

Get a room you two.:eek:

Why? Are you wanting to join in if we do?