Colts-Titans quick thoughts

[GoBigBlue88]

1. That was a really frustrating game. Obviously, Colts dominated throughout. But they did just enough dumb things, and the refs called just enough questionable penalties, to make it interesting. I hate games like that.

2. Kinda a weird game for Andrew Luck. Started off as strong as I've seen him, when I was a bit concerned about recent slow starts and early quarter inconsistency. Then, the pick-six. My God, that pick-six. I don't even know what to say about that pick-six. I love watching Luck play. Hard to make a case to trade him straight up for all but like 1-2 guys. But his quarter-to-quarter inconsistency, and turnovers within, are maddening.

3. I noticed Luck was really hesitant to climb the pocket today. If you do some math, he was also coming up to the line and making line calls. I don't think Luck trusts Evan Boehm at all. He probably should have a bit more today, but I get that Ryan Kelly is a huge missing piece. Boehm is pretty hopeless at the second level because he's a poor athlete, and while he's solid in pass pro, he's also given the absolute least to do.

4. I'm sorry, but at least 2 of the calls against Mark Glowinski were complete bullshit. Feels like the Colts are penalized once every other game just for pancaking someone. You can't hold someone who is already on their knees... Glowinski played well. Lazy analysis from NBC to suggest otherwise.

5. Inconsistent game from Marlon Mack, but more bad then good (EDIT: I misworded this in trying to get this out quickly; meant bad and good, wasn't quite what I was going for to suggest the balance of the two but I'll leave it in there for sake of honesty.) Loved seeing Jordan Wilkins get some burn today. I don't know how useful he'll be vs HOU, but long-term, you like to see him in the rotation with some value.

6. TY Hilton should get a statue for how he's gutted out this season. Just incredible. Almost any other WR would be down for weeks with that injury. This is one of the toughest performances we've seen from a NFL player, period.

7. But I also think Hilton's ankle limits where Colts can go in the playoffs. I think he's mostly a decoy at this point. Inman had a good game, but let's face it: the non-Hilton Colts WRs are just guys. Luck can only cook up so much magic, especially with Doyle also out.

8. Do you guys realize how close this offense is to being TERRIFYING next year, though? I mean, they need health, of course. Everyone does. But they're pretty much a WR2, possibly a RB and some spot depth away from being unfair.

9. Weird game from the defense. Honestly, their ask was pretty simple: they had to tackle soundly. Gabbert wasn't going to stress the back end at all. They tackled a bit inconsistently, IMO. Gabbert's awful passes bailed them out time and time again.

10. I already know Omaha will be pissed about me writing this, but it's true: George Odum was cut-worthy bad today. The penalty is one thing. His play in the base defense is just awful. He was solely responsible for Derrick Henry's big run that kept things interesting, he fucked up a sure INT to take 3 off the board for TEN, and was routinely lost in the MOF (just as he was last week).

11. Which leads me to: this team BADLY needs Geathers back. And Kelly.

12. I thought the Colts actually looked better after Tyquan Lewis went down, FWIW.

13. Jabaal Sheard had another silent stat game where he just blew up plays left and right all day. I really hope Lewis becomes Sheard in time. His role is just essential to this defense working.

14. Quiet game from Denico Autry, but he forced at least one big play (forget if it was an INT or PBU -- think it was Kenny Moore's INT) by jumping into Gabbert's first throwing lane and making Gabbert pull it down and reload.

15. Anthony Walker struggled with a few run fits today, but it was nice to have him back. He makes a big difference in communication alone.

16. Kenny Moore is just a baller. I think Eberflus has inflated the worth of a lot of players on this defense (Hunt, Desir etc.) But I think Moore is a legitimately good CB1. I think Moore and Leonard are good players in any defense.

17. Not sure Malik Hooker has ever been asked to do less in a game.

18. I know we get frustrated with Chester Rogers' fair catch (in)decisions, but he's in an unfair position, IMO. He shouldn't be the PR. That should have been upgraded years ago. But he's a great team player, and a tough kid. He does the best he is able to. The position needs upgrades, but he doesn't put it on the ground and he plays team football.

19. Also underrated moment: the Titans flashed a possible fake punt look. Colts communicated and adjusted quickly. If that happens last year, they fail to communicate adjustments and give up a first down for sure.

20. Frustrating game to watch from the officials. Ran about 20 minutes longer than it needed to because dumb shit was flagged. And they actually missed two obvious penalties on IND: an offensive facemask on Mack and whatever the hell JJ Wilcox was doing.

[Puck]

#5. ?????

I am not a Mack fan but 25 carries for 119 4.8 ypc and a TD wasn't inconsistent at all. His longest run was 21 yards so it was a pretty consistent 4 ypc without that run

[Butter]

#5. ?????

I am not a Mack fan but 25 carries for 119 4.8 ypc and a TD wasn't inconsistent at all. His longest run was 21 yards so it was a pretty consistent 4 ypc without that run

That was pretty confusing.

[GoBigBlue88]

#5. ?????

I am not a Mack fan but 25 carries for 119 4.8 ypc and a TD wasn't inconsistent at all. His longest run was 21 yards so it was a pretty consistent 4 ypc without that run

The fumble was inexcusable (ball security/hands has been an on-again-off-again issue) and he left yards on the field in 2Q in general before being a lot more direct in the second half. I thought the OL absent Boehm at the second level played a FANTASTIC game today and Wilkins would have put up the same if not better numbers. We have to grade a bit on the scale of the holes and run lanes that were there.

And to be clear: I think it was an inconsistent game. Not a bad game. You just wonder what Mack could be if he was like he was in the Cowboys game or 2nd half of this game every week...

[Dewey 5]

Nyheim Hines has become a very valuable contributor. As he continues to progress I think the options how to use him are limitless. He's a real weapon.

[Maniac]

Mack wasn't inconsistent. Just made a bad mistake. He made some good, hard runs, and he had one or two others called back due to penalties.

You're absolutely right about Geathers. I think that hurt the defense quite a bit with him out and Odumbass in there, who was absolutely AWFUL. He should not have been on the field. Horrible.

[bertjones]

It was a dominating performance by this team. If not for the silly mistakes
and poor officiating this would have been a 30+ point spread.
Luck will always make a couple of WTF plays but you live with that like you
did for Big ben and Favre, he's that damned good.
This team can do some real damage in the playoffs but it's hard not to
think of what the blueprint will be in the offseason- solidify the RB position(Bell?) get a decent WR2 and go balls to the wall in the draft for D. A team like
that would be the AFC Superbowl favorite, I'd think.

[GoBigBlue88]

Nyheim Hines has become a very valuable contributor. As he continues to progress I think the options how to use him are limitless. He's a real weapon.

He's a de facto slot WR. Love how he's translated as a receiver. Don't even really need him in the backfield other than a few motion looks to keep defenses off balance.

[Chromeburn]

Right before the play Odum hit the guy far out of bounds. They cut to a close up of him for a split second. His eyes were as big as saucers and he had s look of “what the fuck is happening?” On his face. Felt kind of bad for the kid.

[omahacolt]

I get the Odum hate.

But take a step back and watch again and he was playing ok. Making special teams tackles and playing the box role in our d. He is an undrafted kid that made 2 bad plays.

He made up for the hit out of bounds with a pick a few plays late if desir doesn’t knock it out of his hands.

Hooker on the te td played like a pussy. That isn’t mentioned

Always like your opinions buddy

[Maniac]

But take a step back and watch again and he was playing ok.

No, he wasn't. He was horrid. He made several terrible plays that were big, big mistakes.

[YDFL Commish]

Luck will make at least 1 wtf bonehead throw in every game.
TY is a baller.
Odum sucks donkey balls.
Boehm is a decent replacement for Kelly, nothing more.
Kenny Moore has done nothing but continue to get better every week.
I would like to see Wilkins get more carries.
I like Mack a lot. But I'm not sure that he's even at a Joseph Addai level right now.
WR2 has got to be a huge consideration this off season.
Mo-Allie Cox could become a really good all around TE.
Anybody see the play where Costanzo was the extra RT and Mo-Allie Cox was playing LT? At least that's what I think I saw.
The consistent pockets that this OL creates are a thing of beauty.
Reich is a great coach.
Dam may be smarter than all of us, but he sucks at analyzing football.

[omahacolt]

No, he wasn't. He was horrid. He made several terrible plays that were big, big mistakes.

That just isn’t true.

[omahacolt]

No, he wasn't. He was horrid. He made several terrible plays that were big, big mistakes.

The hit out of bounds and make the missed tackle but what else was “horrid”

[Maniac]

The hit out of bounds and make the missed tackle but what else was “horrid”

Both of those were awful plays. The other one was him running into the other colts defender in the end zone who was in position to get the INT. He should have been benched for that late hit play alone. That was high level dumbfuckery. Make excuses for the guy if you want, but I don't give a shit if he was drafted or undrafted. If you make stupid plays like that, your ass needs to be on the bench.

[rcubed]

We need to clean up the penalties. Especially offensive holding.

[Chaka]

Outstanding commentary again - thank you GBB.

Numbers 16 might be the most interesting one to me - it wasn't so long ago that everyone was calling for Kenny Moore's head. He was the Nyheim Hines of last year's preseason (not to mention an undrafted free agent castoff from the Patriots). How far he's come is amazing and should be an inspiration for any other players who aren't drafted and who struggle at first.

Number 6 is also a big change in attitude from last year, when some fans suggested TY was soft.

How far we have come since last season.

[VeveJones007]

This team needs two WRs next year. Probably one from their first three picks, then one from elsewhere.

[VeveJones007]

One missed call that pissed me off was early in the 4th on that Titans WR screen. Moore read it add could’ve had a pick 6 but the off receiver was shoving him as the ball was in the air. It was pretty egregious especially after all the ticky tack penalties on Glowinski.

[Colts fan from BK]

This team needs two WRs next year. Probably one from their first three picks, then one from elsewhere.

Don’t forget about Deon Cain

[Chromeburn]

Don’t forget about Deon Cain

I look forward to seeing what Cain can offer. But he hasn't played a down yet, is coming off a knee injury, and would essentially be playing his rookie season next year. It may take a little time with him. Fountain should see some progress with a full NFL off-season. I think we make one more draft pick in the first 3 rounds and throw them into the bunch with Innman, Pascal, and Rodgers

[DrSpaceman]

One missed call that pissed me off was early in the 4th on that Titans WR screen. Moore read it add could’ve had a pick 6 but the off receiver was shoving him as the ball was in the air. It was pretty egregious especially after all the ticky tack penalties on Glowinski.

Especially when earlier in the game the called a penalty against the Colts on the EXACT SAME PLAY by the exact same WR in that position.

Really this should not have been a close game and the Colts let the Titans stay in it almost the whole game with turnovers and penalties. Some penalties deserved, some were not. The "tripping" call in particular was total BS. He fell down and was rolling over, the guy jump over him vertically.

I thought Mack played great, hard to fault a guy for a 100+ yard rushing game.

Have to tighten things up in the playoffs to go far, though I think just making the playoffs was about as much as we could hope for from this team. They can beat Houston, but once they go up against KC or SD, maybe NE, I can't see the D being good enough. They'd have to win a shootout in those. Which they can do, but Luck won't be able to make any stupid mistakes like that INT last night. NE WR group and Offense is not what it was in year's past. I know they blew out the Colts earlier in the year but that was a Thursday game as well with Walker and Leonard not in the game.

The hit out of bound penalty on the Colts didn't look as bad in replay as in real time. And again, was no more egregious than the hit on Luck out of bound where he slid and easily could have been injured, which was not called.

[ChoppedWood]

Luck will make at least 1 wtf bonehead throw in every game.
TY is a baller.
Odum sucks donkey balls.
Boehm is a decent replacement for Kelly, nothing more.
Kenny Moore has done nothing but continue to get better every week.
I would like to see Wilkins get more carries.
I like Mack a lot. But I'm not sure that he's even at a Joseph Addai level right now.
WR2 has got to be a huge consideration this off season.
Mo-Allie Cox could become a really good all around TE.
Anybody see the play where Costanzo was the extra RT and Mo-Allie Cox was playing LT? At least that's what I think I saw.
The consistent pockets that this OL creates are a thing of beauty.
Reich is a great coach.
Dam may be smarter than all of us, but he sucks at analyzing football.

I saw that same line up with Castonzo flanked by MoAllie as the tackle- and he played it pretty decent really, it was a strange looking play...

Yes, Reich is bad ass- we got so lucky McSuck showed his ass.

[HoosierinFL]

Both of those were awful plays. The other one was him running into the other colts defender in the end zone who was in position to get the INT. He should have been benched for that late hit play alone. That was high level dumbfuckery. Make excuses for the guy if you want, but I don't give a shit if he was drafted or undrafted. If you make stupid plays like that, your ass needs to be on the bench.

Think that was Desir? There's no guarantee Desir makes that catch or more importantly, successfully outfights the receiver for the ball. Odum was in a slightly better position to make the catch and getting in there ensured at least a pass defense

[JAFF]

Hopefully we will see the following with the Texans.

* great Andrew, no bad Andy. Am I wrong or does he make one boneheaded decision at least every game?

* A huge decrease in the lazy penalties that we saw last night.

* they park Hilton in the training room for the week and then roll them out for Saturday because he doesn’t need to practice.

* Kelly back at center.

[Maniac]

Think that was Desir? There's no guarantee Desir makes that catch or more importantly, successfully outfights the receiver for the ball. Odum was in a slightly better position to make the catch and getting in there ensured at least a pass defense

The pass was already defended. All Odum did was ensure the Colts defender had no chance to pick it off.

[Maniac]

The hit out of bound penalty on the Colts didn't look as bad in replay as in real time. And again, was no more egregious than the hit on Luck out of bound where he slid and easily could have been injured, which was not called.

Luck wasn't hit out of bounds. He was pushed as he was headed out of bounds. Odum hit his guy a yard or two out of bounds and gave them the frist down with that stupid play. Do that stupid shit against the Texans and it may cost us the game.

[DrSpaceman]

Luck wasn't hit out of bounds. He was pushed as he was headed out of bounds. Odum hit his guy a yard or two out of bounds and gave them the frist down with that stupid play. Do that stupid shit against the Texans and it may cost us the game.

Luck was shoved when he was obviously going out of bounds.

Like I said, Odum's play was not as bad on the replay as it looked in real time. The runner was still in bounds as he was going in for the tackle, then stepped out. He hit him out of bounds, but he was not yet out of bounds when odum started his tackle.

They were similar plays. Odum's was worse, but not by much

[Maniac]

Luck was shoved when he was obviously going out of bounds.

Like I said, Odum's play was not as bad on the replay as it looked in real time. The runner was still in bounds as he was going in for the tackle, then stepped out. He hit him out of bounds, but he was not yet out of bounds when odum started his tackle.

They were similar plays. Odum's was worse, but not by much

Luck was not out of bounds when he was pushed. That play looked worse because of the surface he slid on once he got out of bounds.

Odum's play was FAR worse.

Here is the angle he took on that tackle. You see that he's angled to go after the tackle clearly way out of bounds:

https://i.imgur.com/vhJIDRu.jpg


Here is where he hit Lewis:

https://i.imgur.com/xVFsPNd.jpg
WAY out of bounds on that hit

There isi ZERO excuse to take that angle for a tackle when headed to the sideline. You take the angle at the sideline and if you miss him, it's because he went out of bounds, but you don't take a tackling angle that puts you way out of bounds. That's just stupid.

[DrSpaceman]

I am not arguing that it was not a penalty or whether he should have done it.

But your pictures suck and don't really prove what you think.

I cut the guys some slack on these things, they happen once in awhile. We get all over them to be aggressive and play through the whistle and then also jump all over them when they make plays like this on the sideline that are closer than what you are saying and what your pictures show. They are trying to make a split second decision on hitting or holding up on someone going out of bounds.

Your picture doesn't show where the ball carrier was when he started the move for the tackle. Still pictures like this are not that valuable, especially from this angle.

[Maniac]

I am not arguing that it was not a penalty or whether he should have done it.

But your pictures suck and don't really prove what you think.

I cut the guys some slack on these things, they happen once in awhile. We get all over them to be aggressive and play through the whistle and then also jump all over them when they make plays like this on the sideline that are closer than what you are saying and what your pictures show. They are trying to make a split second decision on hitting or holding up on someone going out of bounds.

Your picture doesn't show where the ball carrier was when he started the move for the tackle. Still pictures like this are not that valuable, especially from this angle.

The video shows the same thing as the pictures. Odum takes an angle to tackle the guy out of bounds instead of at the sideline. His body is squared up to go at the guy out of bounds and that's exactly what he did. It was a horrible choice of a tackling angle. It's like he didn't know where he was on the field.

[Pez]

I'm all for cutting some slack too, but in the first pic, the ball carrier is fully OOB, while Odum is 1.5 yards away diving for a tackle that would intercept the ball carrier 1.5 yards OOB. Just a crappy, unnecessary and unprofessional mistake, one that I would expect to be called 100% of the time.

Yes, officiating on this game was ridiculously tight, probably setting a record for the most obscure illegal shift calls in the last 10 years, but this hit was pretty cut and dried.

It was a late hit out of bounds, and the kind of shit that might not cost us a game against the Titans, but a hell of a lot more likely to cost us a game against the Texans or the Patriots.

[DrSpaceman]

I'm all for cutting some slack too, but in the first pic, the ball carrier is fully OOB, while Odum is 1.5 yards away diving for a tackle that would intercept the ball carrier 1.5 yards OOB. Just a crappy, unnecessary and unprofessional mistake, one that I would expect to be called 100% of the time.

Yes, officiating on this game was ridiculously tight, probably setting a record for the most obscure illegal shift calls in the last 10 years, but this hit was pretty cut and dried.

It was a late hit out of bounds, and the kind of shit that might not cost us a game against the Titans, but a hell of a lot more likely to cost us a game against the Texans or the Patriots.

Not arguing it should not be a penalty or that he shouldn't do it, it was dumb

I am arguing it was not unprofessional or that he had any negligent intent or harmful intent on the play.

This was not TJ green type of piling jumping we saw for far too long. Was a dumb lapse in judgement he needs to correct.

[Maniac]

Not arguing it should not be a penalty or that he shouldn't do it, it was dumb

I am arguing it was not unprofessional or that he had any negligent intent or harmful intent on the play.

This was not TJ green type of piling jumping we saw for far too long. Was a dumb lapse in judgement he needs to correct.

I don't remember anyone saying he had harmful intent, so who are you arguing that against? I said it was a fucking stupid play, which it was.

[DrSpaceman]

I don't remember anyone saying he had harmful intent, so who are you arguing that against? I said it was a fucking stupid play, which it was.

It was called "crappy, unprofessional and unnecessary". I guess specifically the "unprofessional" is what I would disagree with.

Also, there were far worse mistakes than this one by the Colts all game, which have been pointed out. This is pretty far down on my list of game mistakes that concern me. Two TDs were called back on penalties and two completely stupid turnovers basically cost the team 10-14 points.

[VeveJones007]

Don’t forget about Deon Cain

I'm not. I would just rather slot him in at WR4/WR5. Wouldn't you?

[Racehorse]

Mack wasn't inconsistent. Just made a bad mistake. He made some good, hard runs, and he had one or two others called back due to penalties.

You're absolutely right about Geathers. I think that hurt the defense quite a bit with him out and Odumbass in there, who was absolutely AWFUL. He should not have been on the field. Horrible.

I thought he was very consistent. I told my son that he was about to rip off a long run, and about five minutes later, he goes for about 20. You could just sense that it was a good day for him.

[Racehorse]

One missed call that pissed me off was early in the 4th on that Titans WR screen. Moore read it add could’ve had a pick 6 but the off receiver was shoving him as the ball was in the air. It was pretty egregious especially after all the ticky tack penalties on Glowinski.

Yep. That was a clear OPI that did not get called.

[Racehorse]

The pass was already defended. All Odum did was ensure the Colts defender had no chance to pick it off.

I don't like Odum much, but he had his back to the other two players, so he may have not known that Desir had a play on it.

[omahacolt]

The pass was already defended. All Odum did was ensure the Colts defender had no chance to pick it off.

Odum caught the pass. Desir knocked it out of his hands. You are being ridiculous

[DrSpaceman]

Only other run, besides the fumble, I would criticize Mack on was a play in the red zone, looked like he had a wipe open path outside to the left and he seemed slow to make the turn or the edge ended up getting about 10 yards but I think it could have gone for longer or even a TD, I think they were at about the 20.

There was a similar play last game where he was slow to hit a big hole, made a good gain for 9 yards or so but really could have been a huge 30-40 yard gain. It seems 1-2 plays a game he has moments like that where you see the difference between him, a good RB, and what an elite RB would do.

But he also continues to block well.

I thought Mack played great overall. So did Wilkins when he got in to run and Hienes on pass catching.

It was the mistakes and the penalties that held back the offense, not the play calling or execution

Also TY Hilton, that play in the last two minutes of first half was huge to get out of the Colts end side of the field deep, the catch and run. Once again playing injured and making a big game changing play when needed.

[DrSpaceman]

Also though the Colts got bailed out on one TD drive on the pass INT on 3rd down. I thought that was pretty good coverage by the Titans, pretty sure it was Hilton he was guarding.

[Maniac]

I don't like Odum much, but he had his back to the other two players, so he may have not known that Desir had a play on it.

If he didn't know that Desir was in position, then I take back my criticism of that play.

[rcubed]

I don't like Odum much, but he had his back to the other two players, so he may have not known that Desir had a play on it.
Desir wasnt intercepting that ball anyway, knocking it down yes, intercepting no. odum had a better play on it

[rcubed]

So did Wilkins when he got in to run and Hienes on pass catching.
.

I feel bad for wilkins, it seems like whenever he finally gets in the game, he rips off a nice run and its called back on a penalty

[omahacolt]

I'm not. I would just rather slot him in at WR4/WR5. Wouldn't you?

Absolutely. Need to find us a 2 and bring back Inman

[VeveJones007]

Absolutely. Need to find us a 2 and bring back Inman

34th pick could be an excellent spot. Obviously depends on the defenders available, though.

I would also keep a close eye on Julio Jones and the Falcons in case they have contract issues again.

[Racehorse]

I feel bad for wilkins, it seems like whenever he finally gets in the game, he rips off a nice run and its called back on a penalty

I do, too, but the counter argument is that he may not have gotten the long run without the actions that caused the penalties

[FatDT]

I'm not. I would just rather slot him in at WR4/WR5. Wouldn't you?

No, I’d rather he play well enough to earn WR2, that would be crazy good value. Why would you not hope for him to succeed? Maybe I don’t understand what you are saying.

[omahacolt]

No, I’d rather he play well enough to earn WR2, that would be crazy good value. Why would you not hope for him to succeed? Maybe I don’t understand what you are saying.

I am guessing he is saying don’t rely on him to be #2.

[JAFF]

I feel bad for wilkins, it seems like whenever he finally gets in the game, he rips off a nice run and its called back on a penalty

I really like Wilkins. He gets his nose down hill and gets positive results

[omahacolt]

I did a rewatch of the condensed game on game pass.

To me Odum had 3 bad plays.

1) the hit out of bounds. Stupid play
2) 1st quarter he got ran over by Henry
3). That atrocious missed tackle that he seemed to get benched for.

The rest of the game he was fine. If you want to judge that as a bad game then ok. Played 53% of the snaps. 2 terrible plays in that time is not acceptable.

Young guys mess up though and calling for him to be cut or saying he is terrible is nonsense to me.

[Chromeburn]

I really like Wilkins. He gets his nose down hill and gets positive results

Needs to work on that ball security. he had an issue in college as well. They all do really. Can't carry it out in space like in college. Will get knocked out. That said, I like his style and I think he makes a good 1-2 punch with Mack.

[southside asshole]

I don't have much to add this week. I decided after last week that starting my own analysis threads doesn't really contribute much to the user experience here, and splitting discussion between threads is counter-productive.

That, and once again I'm coming to this late, and much has already been said.

Overall it was a very sloppy game. Officiating is balls these days, but a lot of those calls were legitimate. If not for the Titans offense basically consisting of Henry and literally zero other things, I think the score would have been way, way closer. Between all the penalties and the stupid, unnecessary turnovers (c'mon Luck, you're up 2 TDs in the first half, WTF are you doing man), that same team with an operational QB would have made us pay.

I'll rewatch the game again later on, and if I've got anything to add that no one has mentioned, I'll post it.

Going into the postseason, I have some concerns.

I think I still like the matchup vs. Hou. Not looking past them - no game will be easy, but the strength of the Colts D pairs well with the offense the Texans run. We have a young and enthusiastic defense who have bitten (and will probably continue to bite) on some misdirection, which Houston will certainly use, but those plays don't tend to be game-breakers the same way a 60-yard bomb can be. Deshaun Watson's accuracy and decision-making from the pocket don't scare me nearly as much as QBs down the line if we win, god willing. Our offense should continue to function. Our line is a match for their rush, and they don't have the secondary to emulate Jacksonville (who just play man all day and don't give a fuck). Hilton's mobility is a concern on that ankle, but between Hines, Ebron, Innman, and other guys who will find themselves open from time to time purely by virtue of their unimportance, Luck will have targets.

If we do get past Houston, there are some AFC QBs who will be waiting to do not-nice things to our soft zone stuff. We've enjoyed the luxury of daring QBs to take the underneath and play mistake-free ball, and against young running QBs behind iffy lines, that works well. Against a Rivers, Brady, Mahomes? Ehh. Better to just focus on Houston right now.

[VeveJones007]

No, I’d rather he play well enough to earn WR2, that would be crazy good value. Why would you not hope for him to succeed? Maybe I don’t understand what you are saying.

And what if you don’t make an upgrade and Cain sucks? Get viable upgrades at WR2 and WR3 and if Cain wins the spot, then all the better. Just don’t go into the offseason counting on him to be anything more than your 4th or 5th receiver.

[nate505]

That Luck pick was so so bad and inexcusable.

Thankfully he didn't let it rattle him for the rest of the game. I like it when Luck makes his totally boneheaded mistake early in the game.

All that being said, I'm beyond thrilled with his overall performance this year.

[Dam8610]

I did a rewatch of the condensed game on game pass.

To me Odum had 3 bad plays.

1) the hit out of bounds. Stupid play
2) 1st quarter he got ran over by Henry
3). That atrocious missed tackle that he seemed to get benched for.

The rest of the game he was fine. If you want to judge that as a bad game then ok. Played 53% of the snaps. 2 terrible plays in that time is not acceptable.

Young guys mess up though and calling for him to be cut or saying he is terrible is nonsense to me.

Yet you call for people to be cut for less all the time.

[nate505]

Outstanding commentary again - thank you GBB.

Numbers 16 might be the most interesting one to me - it wasn't so long ago that everyone was calling for Kenny Moore's head. He was the Nyheim Hines of last year's preseason (not to mention an undrafted free agent castoff from the Patriots). How far he's come is amazing and should be an inspiration for any other players who aren't drafted and who struggle at first.

Number 6 is also a big change in attitude from last year, when some fans suggested TY was soft.

How far we have come since last season.

I admit I was one of the idiots who was saying he should be cut for his special teams blunders like last year or two years ago (at my age, time starts to become less distinct).

Which is why I'm glad I'm an idiot fan and not someone who makes real football decisions. Moore has been outstanding this year. Kudos to him, and I hope he gets a nice contract for his efforts.

[Chromeburn]

I admit I was one of the idiots who was saying he should be cut for his special teams blunders like last year or two years ago (at my age, time starts to become less distinct).

Which is why I'm glad I'm an idiot fan and not someone who makes real football decisions. Moore has been outstanding this year. Kudos to him, and I hope he gets a nice contract for his efforts.

Yup, fans overreact. Then learn their lesson. Then forget the lesson and overreact again.

[Chromeburn]

I don't have much to add this week. I decided after last week that starting my own analysis threads doesn't really contribute much to the user experience here, and splitting discussion between threads is counter-productive.

That, and once again I'm coming to this late, and much has already been said.

Overall it was a very sloppy game. Officiating is balls these days, but a lot of those calls were legitimate. If not for the Titans offense basically consisting of Henry and literally zero other things, I think the score would have been way, way closer. Between all the penalties and the stupid, unnecessary turnovers (c'mon Luck, you're up 2 TDs in the first half, WTF are you doing man), that same team with an operational QB would have made us pay.

I'll rewatch the game again later on, and if I've got anything to add that no one has mentioned, I'll post it.

Going into the postseason, I have some concerns.

I think I still like the matchup vs. Hou. Not looking past them - no game will be easy, but the strength of the Colts D pairs well with the offense the Texans run. We have a young and enthusiastic defense who have bitten (and will probably continue to bite) on some misdirection, which Houston will certainly use, but those plays don't tend to be game-breakers the same way a 60-yard bomb can be. Deshaun Watson's accuracy and decision-making from the pocket don't scare me nearly as much as QBs down the line if we win, god willing. Our offense should continue to function. Our line is a match for their rush, and they don't have the secondary to emulate Jacksonville (who just play man all day and don't give a fuck). Hilton's mobility is a concern on that ankle, but between Hines, Ebron, Innman, and other guys who will find themselves open from time to time purely by virtue of their unimportance, Luck will have targets.

If we do get past Houston, there are some AFC QBs who will be waiting to do not-nice things to our soft zone stuff. We've enjoyed the luxury of daring QBs to take the underneath and play mistake-free ball, and against young running QBs behind iffy lines, that works well. Against a Rivers, Brady, Mahomes? Ehh. Better to just focus on Houston right now.

Good stuff. Don't sell your contribution short. Everybody likes new content to read.

What scares me about the Texans is Watson's PA and bootleg ability. We got exposed a bit by Eli, he was ripping us up with those bootlegs. Watson is much better at it. We will see a lot of it.

After him yes the QB's do get much better. Brady's short game will dink and dunk down the field with no problem. Pressure is a must on Brady, otherwise, he won't make mistakes. Mahomes also bootlegs well and is super accurate on the run. Rivers is experienced and they have a balanced team. Just Balt doesn't scare me much passing wise, but that offense is weird and opportunistic.

[omahacolt]

Yet you call for people to be cut for less all the time.

Do you have an example, daddydiddler?

[Maniac]

Yet you call for people to be cut for less all the time.

No shit.

Omaha, you were bashing Ballard hard early in the year during that 1-5 start, saying this draft was trash and he should be fired.

[omahacolt]

No shit.

Omaha, you were bashing Ballard hard early in the year during that 1-5 start, saying this draft was trash and he should be fired.

I never said he should be fired. Call me out is stupid shit i actually say. I am sure you can find something over the years. Maybe.

Should I have been licking his balls about a 1-5 start? Of course not.

[Dam8610]

Yup, fans overreact. Then learn their lesson. Then forget the lesson and overreact again.

Truth.

[Dam8610]

Do you have an example, daddydiddler?

You also say shit without an example all the time (see above). But really any flex TE the Colts have had in the past prior to Ebron would be a great example.

[omahacolt]

You also say shit without an example all the time (see above). But really any flex TE the Colts have had in the past prior to Ebron would be a great example.

Wrong.

Where do you come up with this shit?

[Dam8610]

Wrong.

Where do you come up with this shit?

Bryan Fletcher, Jacob Tamme, Coby Fleener, which is pretty much a straight progression of them before Ebron. Every one of them you constantly called a pussy and said should be cut regardless of their production.

[omahacolt]

Bryan Fletcher, Jacob Tamme, Coby Fleener, which is pretty much a straight progression of them before Ebron. Every one of them you constantly called a pussy and said should be cut regardless of their production.

They were all pussies. Especially tamme.

I have no problem with swoope. Didn’t have much of a problem with fletcher either.

[Pez]

They were all pussies. Especially tamme.



I have no problem with swoope. Didn’t have much of a problem with fletcher either.Bullshit, fleenor was a bigger pussy.

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[omahacolt]

Bullshit, fleenor was a bigger pussy.

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No way. You could fist tamme with no lube. Fleener would require lube.

Dam is no lube for those keeping score at home.

[Dam8610]

My point. Tamme and Fleener were productive players for the Colts that you wanted cut, while this guy and several other players give taken up the cause of over the years (especially Mike Doss) are trash who've played like trash and actually deserve to be cut. You seem to have a thing for garbage safeties.

[omahacolt]

My point. Tamme and Fleener were productive players for the Colts that you wanted cut, while this guy and several other players give taken up the cause of over the years (especially Mike Doss) are trash who've played like trash and actually deserve to be cut. You seem to have a thing for garbage safeties.

Mike Doss is a football champion. Won at every level. Show some respect.

Your point is stupid. I don’t have a thing for Odum. I have a dislike for fans seeing a bad play or two and thinking they know a player when they actually weren’t really watching him. Fans constantly let 1 play speak for a player and ignore the other 50 plays in the game.