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omahacolt
10-24-2018, 05:57 PM
Got to keep playing geathers right? Otherwise the play the young guys message is bs right?
Butter
10-24-2018, 07:54 PM
You also have to reward performance so benching Mitchell after 2 games played at a high level would send a bad message. If anything coming back from a concussion limiting Geathers longer is beneficial. So really it negates whatever point you are trying to make.
Oldcolt
10-24-2018, 08:03 PM
Agree. Geathers is the future and should be brought back slowly, especially with his history. Going with youth would and playing Mitchell to protect Geather’a health are not mutually exclusive.
smitty46953
10-24-2018, 08:21 PM
Kind of hard to move Mitchell to the bench after this … :cool:
INDIANAPOLIS — Mike Mitchell has made quite the impression in just two weeks’ time.
Today, the National Football League announced that the Indianapolis Colts safety was named the AFC Defensive Player of the Week for his standout performance last Sunday in the team’s Week 7 victory over the Buffalo Bills.
Mitchell’s day included seven tackles (one for a loss), a forced fumble that was recovered by linebacker Darius Leonard, and then an interception, helping lead the Colts to a 37-5 victory that snapped a four-game losing streak.
Mitchell is the second Colts player to be named AFC Defensive Player of the Week this season, joining Leonard, who earned that honor after his 19-tackle, one sack, one forced fumble performance Week 2 against the Washington Redskins.
https://www.colts.com/news/mike-mitchell-earns-afc-defensive-player-of-the-week-honors
Chromeburn
10-24-2018, 08:35 PM
You reward play on the field. You don’t play youth just to play youth.
omahacolt
10-24-2018, 08:59 PM
You also have to reward performance so benching Mitchell after 2 games played at a high level would send a bad message. If anything coming back from a concussion limiting Geathers longer is beneficial. So really it negates whatever point you are trying to make.
Just asking how to handle it. If your philosophy is no vets and only young guys to build the core, how do you keep geathers on the bench? Geathers wasn’t playing poorly.
I am not trying to make a point. When geathers is healthy does he remain the starter?
omahacolt
10-24-2018, 09:03 PM
Kind of hard to move Mitchell to the bench after this … :cool:
INDIANAPOLIS — Mike Mitchell has made quite the impression in just two weeks’ time.
Today, the National Football League announced that the Indianapolis Colts safety was named the AFC Defensive Player of the Week for his standout performance last Sunday in the team’s Week 7 victory over the Buffalo Bills.
Mitchell’s day included seven tackles (one for a loss), a forced fumble that was recovered by linebacker Darius Leonard, and then an interception, helping lead the Colts to a 37-5 victory that snapped a four-game losing streak.
Mitchell is the second Colts player to be named AFC Defensive Player of the Week this season, joining Leonard, who earned that honor after his 19-tackle, one sack, one forced fumble performance Week 2 against the Washington Redskins.
https://www.colts.com/news/mike-mitchell-earns-afc-defensive-player-of-the-week-honors
I agree but that goes against letting the young guys play to build the core philosophy
Racehorse
10-24-2018, 09:03 PM
Just asking how to handle it. If your philosophy is no vets and only young guys to build the core, how do you keep geathers on the bench? Geathers wasn’t playing poorly.
I am not trying to make a point. When geathers is healthy does he remain the starter?
Plenty of plays for all of them, iyam
Butter
10-24-2018, 09:42 PM
Just asking how to handle it. If your philosophy is no vets and only young guys to build the core, how do you keep geathers on the bench? Geathers wasn’t playing poorly.
I am not trying to make a point. When geathers is healthy does he remain the starter?
Who has that philosophy, you seem to be constructing a strawman.
I agree but that goes against letting the young guys play to build the core philosophy
Not really any different than playing Ebron over swoop or even Doyle which IMO Ebron is the best TE on the team
sherck
10-24-2018, 09:56 PM
Agree. Geathers is the future and should be brought back slowly, especially with his history. Going with youth would and playing Mitchell to protect Geather’a health are not mutually exclusive.How can Geathers be the future when he is injured a fair amount of the time.
My guess is that we are drafting safety in the 2019 draft.
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YDFL Commish
10-24-2018, 10:13 PM
Probably start Mitchell, then bring in Geathers in his customary nickel LB role. Also, let them spell each other from time to time and make the playing time game specific.
omahacolt
10-25-2018, 06:03 AM
Not really any different than playing Ebron over swoop or even Doyle which IMO Ebron is the best TE on the team
Ebron was obviously a target in free agency that they thought would be big contributor for the offense.
omahacolt
10-25-2018, 06:06 AM
Who has that philosophy, you seem to be constructing a strawman.
I am probably not wording it right. Ballard intentionally didn’t bring in guys like Mitchell so that guys likee geathers could play.
Mitchell is obviously not a long term solution for the team
FatDT
10-25-2018, 08:45 AM
If they actually see Geathers as the future SS and nickel LB, then yeah, once they feel confident he is fully healthy they'll probably move him back to starter. Mitchell has done well so they'll take their time there. And he'll still get plenty of snaps.
But that's if they see Geathers that way. I don't think they necessarily do. I'm sure there is concern about his long-term viability.
They started the season with Geathers likely to return, and Farley playing well enough to start and then be the primary backup and 3rd safety, so I don't think they had much reason to sign a guy like Mitchell.
Oldcolt
10-25-2018, 10:36 AM
How can Geathers be the future when he is injured a fair amount of the time.
My guess is that we are drafting safety in the 2019 draft.
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It's an issue I agree. I also agree that we will pick up a safety (not so sure that this might be one place we could just spend some money. Decent safeties do hit the open market). I just haven't given up on him just yet
sherck
10-25-2018, 10:53 AM
It's an issue I agree. I also agree that we will pick up a safety (not so sure that this might be one place we could just spend some money. Decent safeties do hit the open market). I just haven't given up on him just yet
Not giving up as the 3-safety package seems to be becoming much more of a thing in the NFL.
But, for once being a sure-fire part of the Colts future, his time off the field is becoming more pronounced than his time on the field.
If he can get healthy, commit to him but that is a big IF right now.
Walk Worthy,
Kray007
10-25-2018, 12:05 PM
When was the last time Geathers made an impact play? He used to be an intimidating presence, but I haven't seen that in a while.
rcubed
10-25-2018, 12:41 PM
When was the last time Geathers made an impact play? He used to be an intimidating presence, but I haven't seen that in a while.
I think how they handle this will be very telling. Geathers has had major injury issues and is in the last year of his contract. If mitchell plays major minutes after geathers is back then ballard is planning on moving on from him. So I guess my answer to the question depends on whether ballard sees geathers as a long term player for this team.
My guess is no.
VeveJones007
10-25-2018, 01:51 PM
Just asking how to handle it. If your philosophy is no vets and only young guys to build the core, how do you keep geathers on the bench? Geathers wasn’t playing poorly.
I am not trying to make a point. When geathers is healthy does he remain the starter?
It depends on how Ballard and co. project Geathers. Do they see much growth potential there?
And Sherck brings up a good point about 3 safety packages. There were plenty of snaps for Hooker-Geathers-Farley earlier this year. I imagine it will be the same with Mitchell.
I am probably not wording it right. Ballard intentionally didn’t bring in guys like Mitchell so that guys likee geathers could play.
Mitchell is obviously not a long term solution for the team
I agree. But if there is slim pickings in FA and the draft, keeping him isn't the worst idea. He's a good guy, good team mate. He got caught up in the BS around not signing the guy from SF who to a knee with Kaep
Chromeburn
10-25-2018, 05:15 PM
It depends on how Ballard and co. project Geathers. Do they see much growth potential there?
And Sherck brings up a good point about 3 safety packages. There were plenty of snaps for Hooker-Geathers-Farley earlier this year. I imagine it will be the same with Mitchell.
This is Geathers 4th year, he isn’t s rookie anymore. Play the best vet. Make him earn it. I think they should draft a new safety anyway, he is hurt too much.
omahacolt
10-25-2018, 05:16 PM
When was the last time Geathers made an impact play? He used to be an intimidating presence, but I haven't seen that in a while.
That depends on your definition of impact play I guess
That depends on your definition of impact play I guess
When is the last time he had an impact and got hurt?
What? Too harsh?
VeveJones007
10-25-2018, 05:26 PM
This is Geathers 4th year, he isn’t s rookie anymore. Play the best vet. Make him earn it. I think they should draft a new safety anyway, he is hurt too much.
That's what I think, too, but I was saying that it depends on whether Ballard, Dodds, and Hogan agree.
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