Manning to the Colts

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https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/722466275570548737/YdnKLtjs_bigger.jpg Brad Wells‏ @BradWellsNFL (https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL)

A source with knowledge contacted said that "a deal in principle" had been reached btwn the Colts and Manning. Source has been solid. (https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL)

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there is a lot more info there just dont want to copy and paste..


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https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/722466275570548737/YdnKLtjs_bigger.jpg Brad Wells‏ @BradWellsNFL (https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL) 3h3 hours ago (https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL/status/841681046638796800)







Please, don't say I'm tweeting this to get attention. I'm 40. I don't need attention.

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Brad Wells‏ @BradWellsNFL (https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL) 3h3 hours ago (https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL/status/841680344961110016)


Any deal with Manning would instantly elevate the value of the Colts franchise. It's a huge money deal. Thus, the weeks of review.

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Brad Wells‏ @BradWellsNFL (https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL) 4h4 hours ago (https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL/status/841679522428735488)

I was also told that when Manning deal happens, he'd want to work with a strong GM. Ballard was hired for that role.

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Brad Wells‏ @BradWellsNFL (https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL) 4h4 hours ago (https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL/status/841679092093132800)

If the Manning deal never happens, it means that someone balked. I trust the source. They aren't inventing this and neither am I.

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Brad Wells‏ @BradWellsNFL (https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL) 4h4 hours ago (https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL/status/841678656380387329)







Please know I've sat on this for a while, looking for more answers. It's obviously a massive story. But, when it breaks, it won't be by me.

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Brad Wells‏ @BradWellsNFL (https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL) 4h4 hours ago (https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL/status/841678376972693504)




I know @jimosborne45 (https://twitter.com/jimosborne45) has discussed this deal with Manning on Twitter. I'm inclined to agree with much of what he's said on the subject.

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Brad Wells‏ @BradWellsNFL (https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL) 4h4 hours ago (https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL/status/841678038437842945)

I asked source for a deadline on Manning deal. "Before the 2017 NFL Draft" was the answer.

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Brad Wells‏ @BradWellsNFL (https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL) 4h4 hours ago (https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL/status/841677787341635584)

Since the deal involves minority ownership, it would require league (owners) approval. It has not gone through that approval as yet.

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Brad Wells‏ @BradWellsNFL (https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL) 4h4 hours ago (https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL/status/841677171517083649)


Since the deal in principle was agreed to, lawyers from Manning and Irsay families have reviewed the agreement. Cooper Manning is involved.

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Brad Wells‏ @BradWellsNFL (https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL) 4h4 hours ago (https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL/status/841676885503307776)

For 6 weeks, I've tried confirming the news with second source. No confirm. However, the details from the original source seem solid.

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https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/722466275570548737/YdnKLtjs_bigger.jpg Brad Wells‏ @BradWellsNFL (https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL) 4h4 hours ago (https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL/status/841676600756256768)


I received this news right around the time that Ryan Grigson was fired. The two events (Manning and Grigson) were related, the source said.

[smitty46953]

Hope he is right, but gotta take Brad Wells with a grain of salt ... :cool:

[omahacolt]

Hope he is right, but gotta take Brad Wells with a grain of salt ... :cool:

A grain of salt?

I don't believe anything that dumb dickface says

[smitty46953]

A grain of salt?

I don't believe anything that dumb dickface says

Kinda what I meant Omaha, however my vocabulary lacks the depth of yours ... :cool:

[YDFL Commish]

Hope he is right, but gotta take Brad Wells with a grain of salt ... :cool:

Has he ever been the first to break a story before? From what I see, he just re-hashes other writers stories.

[Brylok]

If this is true, Jim could be setting himself up for retirement with Peyton as team president and a guiding hand for the daughters when they take over. IF this is true...and I doubt it is.

[VeveJones007]

Has he ever been the first to break a story before? From what I see, he just re-hashes other writers stories.

I'm pretty sure he broke the PM neck issue in 2010 and that PM would require more surgery...then 2011 happened.

[VeveJones007]

A grain of salt?

I don't believe anything that dumb dickface says

I believe there's a "source" telling him this. Whether or not the "source" is reliable (or correct in this case) is a different consideration.

[omahacolt]

I'm pretty sure he broke the PM neck issue in 2010 and that PM would require more surgery...then 2011 happened.

i don't recall him breaking that news

wasn't that the indy radio dude?


and plus the chubby cheeked dildo makes stuff up in hopes he is right all the time.

[Maniac]

Any other sources? A story of this magnitude would be getting leaked and picked up by the big boys quickly. If nothing is being said elsewhere, then I would tend to doubt this source.

[Indiana V2]

That would be awesome if it happened. Love to have Peyton on board again...and get Pagano off board.

[rcubed]

It would fit the timeline.

It was widely reported irsay wanted manning in the org. Manning say no way I work with greaseball. So irsay fires said greaseball and hires a real GM. Then tries manning again.

[Spike]

It would fit the timeline.

It was widely reported irsay wanted manning in the org. Manning say no way I work with greaseball. So irsay fires said greaseball and hires a real GM. Then tries manning again.

If I was Manning, I would wait until Pagano gets fired too. Irsay only fixed half the problem.

[rcubed]

If I was Manning, I would wait until Pagano gets fired too. Irsay only fixed half the problem.

I would guess manning would have assurances to pick the coach, just like ballard has the ability to reevaluate after this coming season.

[VeveJones007]

Any other sources? A story of this magnitude would be getting leaked and picked up by the big boys quickly. If nothing is being said elsewhere, then I would tend to doubt this source.

PM runs a tight ship. Things don't get out unless he gives the okay for it to be disclosed.

If it's real, the news will start coming out around the time of the annual league meetings March 26-29. That is probably where the vote would take place on the (minority) ownership sale. I would imagine Mortensen would run with it early next week if it's true.

[OneVoice]

Every bone in my body says don't pay mind to anything BBS says / but the thought of Manning in the front office would bring serious mojo back to the Colts, and that makes me happy.

No once cares what's happening in Indy anymore ...Manning seriously changes that, gives instant credibility back to the franchise.

[Maniac]

PM runs a tight ship. Things don't get out unless he gives the okay for it to be disclosed.

If it's real, the news will start coming out around the time of the annual league meetings March 26-29. That is probably where the vote would take place on the (minority) ownership sale. I would imagine Mortensen would run with it early next week if it's true.

So despite this tight ship that PM runs, this small timer quoted by the OP somehow got the inside scoop that no one else did?

[OneVoice]

So despite this tight ship that PM runs, this small timer quoted by the OP somehow got the inside scoop that no one else did?

BBS's source probably has a source ...who probably has a source.

It's not like this news is really news: PM's return to the Colts has been reported about before / really just think it's a matter of time, whether BBS knows it now or not.

[DrSpaceman]

Nothing about it yet.....

I'll believe it when the Colts or Manning say something. Until then, still speculation

[Maniac]

BBS's source probably has a source ...who probably has a source.

It's not like this news is really news: PM's return to the Colts has been reported about before / really just think it's a matter of time, whether BBS knows it now or not.

It is important to the NFL world, and a rumor like this would be huge to report.

My point is either PM runs a tight ship or he doesn't. If he runs a tight ship, some small timer isn't going to get all this breaking news leaked. If he somehow got it, the big boys would get it as well, because they have a lot more resources and insiders that they get their info from. Either it got leaked or it didn't, and if it did, why haven't we heard from anyone besides this guy on it? Doesn't make sense.

[rcubed]

It doesn't matter how tight of a ship PM runs. It only takes one janitor over hearing something in the hall to pass it along to someone.

[smitty46953]

Brad Wells said nothing here that hasn't been said in past by someone... He grabs every little bit of info, spins it all together with a bit of speculation and hopes it sticks when thrown against the wall ... Then he can say I told ya so ... :cool:

[VeveJones007]

It is important to the NFL world, and a rumor like this would be huge to report.

My point is either PM runs a tight ship or he doesn't. If he runs a tight ship, some small timer isn't going to get all this breaking news leaked. If he somehow got it, the big boys would get it as well, because they have a lot more resources and insiders that they get their info from. Either it got leaked or it didn't, and if it did, why haven't we heard from anyone besides this guy on it? Doesn't make sense.

PM runs a tight ship...Irsay, not as much.

[VeveJones007]

It doesn't matter how tight of a ship PM runs. It only takes one janitor over hearing something in the hall to pass it along to someone.

This. I'm not saying it's true, but dismissing it out of hand is just as dumb as assuming it is gospel.

[Maniac]

It doesn't matter how tight of a ship PM runs. It only takes one janitor over hearing something in the hall to pass it along to someone.

So if that is the case, why have none of the big boys gotten ahold of this rumor and put it out there? That's the part that doesn't make sense. If there is a leak, those guys would have it and run with it as well, if it's true. That's what makes me skeptical.

[VeveJones007]

So if that is the case, why have none of the big boys gotten ahold of this rumor and put it out there? That's the part that doesn't make sense. If there is a leak, those guys would have it and run with it as well, if it's true. That's what makes me skeptical.

Because legitimate journalists need two sources to run with a story.

[Maniac]

Because legitimate journalists need two sources to run with a story.

That's not usually the case with the NFL rumor mill. Legit stories are a different thing altogether.

[rcubed]

That's not usually the case with the NFL rumor mill. Legit stories are a different thing altogether.
I agree more with veve. The big boys have a reputation and will want multiple sources or at least one source they really trust. Who knows what source wells has. As said above, its a rumor that should be considered but not a taken as a given, that's why they are called rumors.

[VeveJones007]

That's not usually the case with the NFL rumor mill. Legit stories are a different thing altogether.

Let's play if you were in their shoes:

If you heard this from a single source and didn't feel it was 100% guaranteed, would you risk your credibility and possibly your job on this story?

[Maniac]

Let's play if you were in their shoes:

If you heard this from a single source and didn't feel it was 100% guaranteed, would you risk your credibility and possibly your job on this story?

I personally would not, but we have seen many times over the years where ESPN and others have put rumors out there with little to no regard to backup sources for them. It's a different world now than it used to be. It used to be where people made sure each thing they put out was accurate and backed up. Now many just try to be the first to break a rumor or story.

This whole thing may well be true, but it just doesn't seem right to me that only this one person is running with it and no one else. That makes me skeptical.

[VeveJones007]

I personally would not, but we have seen many times over the years where ESPN and others have put rumors out there with little to no regard to backup sources for them. It's a different world now than it used to be. It used to be where people made sure each thing they put out was accurate and backed up. Now many just try to be the first to break a rumor or story.

This whole thing may well be true, but it just doesn't seem right to me that only this one person is running with it and no one else. That makes me skeptical.

Technically BlueHQ has it as well, but you're right that no credentialed media have run with it.

That being said, nobody has gotten a denial. On Twitter yesterday, Kravitz said he would look into it. He hasn't come out with a confirmation or denial. If it were completely 100% false, you would think he would report that.

[Coltsalr]

https://twitter.com/bkravitz/status/842154634395410432

[VeveJones007]

https://twitter.com/bkravitz/status/842154634395410432

And there's the denial from an accredited journalist.

[omahacolt]

And there's the denial from an accredited journalist.

You call that a firm denial

[VeveJones007]

You call that a firm denial

No, I thought better of that wording and re-phrased.

[smitty46953]

Brad Wells would be proud that this thread is 4 pages long due to his speculation ... :cool:

[Lov2fish]

Brad Wells would be proud that this thread is 4 pages long due to his speculation ... :cool:

It's the only thing he has to be proud of. Hell, his own mother ain't even proud of him...

[Coltsalr]

To be fair, Brad Wells isn't the only non-credentialed journalist that has this. The other guy does too:

@jimosborne45
Yes I saw what Kravitz tweeted about Manning. Suddenly it's gone from pure fiction to a possibility? Seemingly overnight? Interesting.

@jimosborne45
Suddenly Manning-Colts isn't fiction. It became possible almost overnight. I've been here for months. Indy media now discussing. So yeah.


Again, for what it's worth.

[omahacolt]

To be fair, Brad Wells isn't the only non-credentialed journalist that has this. The other guy does too:

@jimosborne45
Yes I saw what Kravitz tweeted about Manning. Suddenly it's gone from pure fiction to a possibility? Seemingly overnight? Interesting.

@jimosborne45
Suddenly Manning-Colts isn't fiction. It became possible almost overnight. I've been here for months. Indy media now discussing. So yeah.


Again, for what it's worth.
I hate this Jim Osborne fucker.

[Wyatt]

@BradWellsNFL
I have no update on Peyton Manning. If it doesn't happen in the next week, the timing is off or has changed. I believe it's when, not if.
12:49 PM · Apr 21, 2017

[VeveJones007]

@BradWellsNFL
I have no update on Peyton Manning. If it doesn't happen in the next week, the timing is off or has changed. I believe it's when, not if.
12:49 PM · Apr 21, 2017

The more I thought about this before the Owner's Meetings, the more I thought that it made sense to wait until after the draft (if it were going to happen). You don't want that distraction, especially with Ballard having to address the media before, during, and after the draft.

[DrSpaceman]

Well I will still believe it WHEN its official. Not when reported by Brad Wells rumor mill.

And it makes no sense to wait until the draft. If anything just the opposite, I would think they would want him working with the team BEFORE the draft to give his input.

[VeveJones007]

Well I will still believe it WHEN its official. Not when reported by Brad Wells rumor mill.

And it makes no sense to wait until the draft. If anything just the opposite, I would think they would want him working with the team BEFORE the draft to give his input.

He would have to be approved by an Owners vote if he were getting equity. He would be stuck in limbo until then. Plus, he hasn't done any prep on this class. He would be nothing but a distraction at this stage.

[Coltsalr]

Which, if I'm Ballard, maybe I'd like Manning to give me some cover fire?

Manning taking over President role or whatever would obviously be a massive, national story. Nobody would be talking about Ballard's draft at that point. Would certainly take the pressure off him.

[rcubed]

Which, if I'm Ballard, maybe I'd like Manning to give me some cover fire?

Manning taking over President role or whatever would obviously be a massive, national story. Nobody would be talking about Ballard's draft at that point. Would certainly take the pressure off him.
it doesnt seem like ballard operates that way.

[YDFL Commish]

it doesnt seem like ballard operates that way.

And no GM worth his salt should.

[albany ed]

Yesterday on some National sports talk show, maybe Dan Patrick, they indicated that Manning was a possible Executive candidate for the LA Chargers.

[Colt Classic]

Yesterday on some National sports talk show, maybe Dan Patrick, they indicated that Manning was a possible Executive candidate for the LA Chargers.

The franchise Eli wanted no part of? Seems odd.

[indycolts2]

Listening to Stephen Holder interview on Indy Draft podcast yesterday and he speculates that Ballard does not take the colts GM spot if Manning were coming on board.