2018 NFL Scouting Combine Thread

[FatDT]

Post your thoughts, rumors, Tweets, and other BS about the Combine here.

Here's the schedule:


Tuesday, February 27

Group 1 (ST, OL), Group 2 (OL), Group 3 (running backs) arrive at Indy.
Pre-exams, x-rays, orientation and interviews for Groups 1-3.

Wednesday, February 28

Group 4 (QB, WR), Group 5 (QB, WR), Group 6 (TE) arrive at Indy.
Pre-exams, x-rays, orientation and interviews for Groups 4-6.
Groups 1-3 measurements, medical examinations, interviews

Thursday, March 1

Group 7 (DL), Group 8 (DL), Group 9 (LB) arrive at Indy
Pre-exams, x-rays, orientation and interviews for Groups 7-9.
Groups 4-6 measurements, medical examinations, interviews
Groups 1-3 psychological testing, PK/ST workouts, bench press, interviews

Friday, March 2

Group 10 (DB), Group 11 (DB) arrive at Indy
Pre-exams, x-rays, orientation and interviews for Groups 10-11.
Groups 7-9 measurements, medical examinations, interviews
Groups 4-6 psychological testing, PK/ST workouts, bench press, interviews
Groups 1-3 (ST, OL, RB) On-Field workout (timing, stations, skill drills)

Saturday, March 3

Groups 10-11 measurements, medical examinations, interviews
Groups 7-9 psychological testing, PK/ST workouts, bench press, interviews
Groups 4-6 (QB, WR, TE) On-Field workout (timing, stations, skill drills)

Sunday, March 4

Groups 10-11 psychological testing, PK/ST workouts, bench press, interviews
Groups 7-9 (DL, LB) On-Field workout (timing, stations, skill drills)

Monday, March 5

Groups 10-11 (DB) On-Field workout (timing, stations, skill drills)

[1965southpaw]

Did you guys hear that McDickless won't be attending with Bellicheat this year?

[Spike]

Did you guys hear that McDickless won't be attending with Bellicheat this year?

Sure did. POS is afraid to show up in Indy.

[falloutboy14]

I read that he typically doesn't. Just this year it's a big deal.

[Brylok]

Shouldn't let him in the building if he did come.

[FatDT]

RB and OL measurements are in. Orlando Brown is an enormous man. 6'8, 345, 35" arms. Wouldn't mind him in the second.

[testcase448]

looking forward to seeing this guys workout...

Vita-Vea (https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/01/vita-vea-draft-combine-size-speed-40-time-washington-first-round)

He may be one ogf those physical freaks that doesn't work out, or may be the steal of the draft

[FatDT]

Bradley Chubb measured 6'4 and change, 269 lbs, 34 inch arms, 9 7/8" hands. We'll see how he runs. He looks the part.

[Indiana V2]

Bradley Chubb measured 6'4 and change, 269 lbs, 34 inch arms, 9 7/8" hands. We'll see how he runs. He looks the part.

Hope he's there for the Colts to draft.

[falloutboy14]

Bradley Chubb measured 6'4 and change, 269 lbs, 34 inch arms, 9 7/8" hands. We'll see how he runs. He looks the part.


Those numbers are pretty close to Julius Peppers:. 6'6", 283, 34" arms, 10" hands. He only ran the 40 and did 4.68. so we'll see what he does tomorrow​.


Also, Barkley had a hell of a day and I'm becoming ok with him over Chubb. The fact that we can walk away with either or a boat load of picks is a good thing.

[natagu23]

Those numbers are pretty close to Julius Peppers:. 6'6", 283, 34" arms, 10" hands. He only ran the 40 and did 4.68. so we'll see what he does tomorrow​.


Also, Barkley had a hell of a day and I'm becoming ok with him over Chubb. The fact that we can walk away with either or a boat load of picks is a good thing.

Either....?

Listen. Lets draft Chubb and keep it moving.

[Hoopsdoc]

RB and OL measurements are in. Orlando Brown is an enormous man. 6'8, 345, 35" arms. Wouldn't mind him in the second.

Yeah, but ran a statuesque 5.77 40 and only managed 14 reps on the bench.

Pass. Saquon Barkley did 29 reps.

Slow and weak doesn’t translate well in the nfl.

[Dam8610]

Those numbers are pretty close to Julius Peppers:. 6'6", 283, 34" arms, 10" hands. He only ran the 40 and did 4.68. so we'll see what he does tomorrow​.


Also, Barkley had a hell of a day and I'm becoming ok with him over Chubb. The fact that we can walk away with either or a boat load of picks is a good thing.

Davenport's measurables are closer to Peppers, and if he had any level of developed pass rush ability rather than just being a big strong guy who can muscle his way past some of the top talent in the world, I would've given him that comp. Size wise, Chubb compares favorably with Bruce Smith.

Also, no to Barkley and ideal is trade down and still get Chubb.

[YDFL Commish]

Also, no to Barkley and ideal is trade down and still get Chubb.

Trade down and still get Chubb. That has to be everybody's wet dream, right?

[FatDT]

Yeah, but ran a statuesque 5.77 40 and only managed 14 reps on the bench.

Pass. Saquon Barkley did 29 reps.

Slow and weak doesn’t translate well in the nfl.

Yeah. Hard pass on that dude. Terrible preparation for the biggest job interview of his life.

[DrSpaceman]

Trade down and still get Chubb. That has to be everybody's wet dream, right?

That would be great if you can do it

[FatDT]

"Trade down and all the blue chip players are gone" is what I'm concerned would happen.

[Butter]

"Trade down and all the blue chip players are gone" is what I'm concerned would happen.

I agree. If the guy you want is Chubb or Barkley and they are thee at 3 you take them.

[FatDT]

I agree. If the guy you want is Chubb or Barkley and they are thee at 3 you take them.

The best prospects in this draft seem to probably be Barkley, Chubb, Nelson, and probably Fitzpatrick. We are in position to draft one of them, guaranteed. We don't really need Fitzpatrick. IMO the other three are the only real options. I'd only want to trade down a few picks, and then only if at least two of them are still there.

[YDFL Commish]

Chubb just ran a 4.66 that is faster than 95% of the QB's in the NFL, and probably fast enough to cover most NFL TE's.

[falloutboy14]

For reference, Khalil Mack was 251, ran 4.65.
Chubb is 269 ran 4.66.
Joey Bosa was 269, ran 4.77.
Von Miller was 246, ran 4.53.

Dudes fast. Would love to see his jump scores and 3-cone. Those are the most telling for edge rushers.

[YDFL Commish]

Dudes fast. Would love to see his jump scores and 3-cone. Those are the most telling for edge rushers.

As well as the less advertised 10 yd split time. Anything under 1.6 in the 10 yd split, and I would ecstatic.

[falloutboy14]

I saw 1.63 for that.

[natagu23]

For reference, Khalil Mack was 251, ran 4.65.
Chubb is 269 ran 4.66.
Joey Bosa was 269, ran 4.77.
Von Miller was 246, ran 4.53.

Dudes fast. Would love to see his jump scores and 3-cone. Those are the most telling for edge rushers.

Most importantly, the guy is a football player. T.J Green ran a 4.3 but he had 40 yards to chase down a running back in a foot race but couldnt do it.

We need more talented football players, not track stars.

[Coltsalr]

Chubb ran a very disappointing 7.37 cone drill, apparently.

Firesale this pick, Ballard.

[YDFL Commish]

Shaquem Griffin ran a 4.38. You can't tell me that dude is not a baller.

[HoosierinFL]

Shaquem Griffin ran a 4.38. You can't tell me that dude is not a baller.

I’ve been saying it for months, I hope we get him. Personally I would take him at the top of the 3rd round

[YDFL Commish]

I’ve been saying it for months, I hope we get him. Personally I would take him at the top of the 3rd round

He may have moved himself up further than that.

His tape don't lie, and now with the measurables...as far as athleticism he has checked almost all the boxes.

I would love to have him as a WILL on our team.

[Butter]

Chubb ran a very disappointing 7.37 cone drill, apparently.

Firesale this pick, Ballard.

It is disappointing, but some pretty good pass rushers have not had great cone drills.
Demarcus Lawrence 7.46
Clowney 7.27

If Ballad is happy with the tape you still take him.

[Dam8610]

Most surprising time of the day to me was Tremaine Edmunds at 4.54, I figured he'd be a 4.8 plodder.

Chubb at 4.65 exceeded my expectations as well, and I think the 36" vertical and 10'1" broad shows the lower half explosion he'll need at the next level. I'm not terribly concerned about the 3 cone time, that's not very reflective of the skills he needs as a down DE.

Marcus Davenport has Julius Peppers type measurables across the board. Get him a DL coach and he'll wreak havoc on the NFL.

[Indiana V2]

I've resigned myself that we're in a great spot at #3. Obviously if Chubb or Barkley are available at #3 I think we take them, but if the Browns and Giants take both of them, then we have a great opportunity to trade back, and get multiple players who can help us.

[HoosierinFL]

He may have moved himself up further than that.

His tape don't lie, and now with the measurables...as far as athleticism he has checked almost all the boxes.

I would love to have him as a WILL on our team.

I think if he had 2 hands he would be a sure first rounder. Maybe even top 10 pick. I have no idea what nfl gms think of him though.

[Indiana V2]

I think if he had 2 hands he would be a sure first rounder. Maybe even top 10 pick. I have no idea what nfl gms think of him though.

He's shown he can make plays the way he is, he shouldn't be knocked down due to his missing a hand.

[rcubed]

I think if he had 2 hands he would be a sure first rounder. Maybe even top 10 pick. I have no idea what nfl gms think of him though.
Dan Patrick interviewed him this morning. After the interview DP said the word around the combine was around the 4th round for his draft slot.

[HoosierinFL]

Dan Patrick interviewed him this morning. After the interview DP said the word around the combine was around the 4th round for his draft slot.

if he goes in the 4th, then whoever makes that pick gets the steal of the draft IMO.
I guess we'll see when they play the games.

[rcubed]

if he goes in the 4th, then whoever makes that pick gets the steal of the draft IMO.
I guess we'll see when they play the games.
I can see GMs being very leery about drafting a one handed player with a high pick, even though he looks great.

[albany ed]

I've never seen him play. Who does he compare to?

[HoosierinFL]

I've never seen him play. Who does he compare to?

I'm not very good at making those kinds of comparisons. Instead I'll refer you to some tape.
Here he is single handedly wrecking Auburn in the Peach Bowl:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtvdHSsHZXs
(the entire game is basically a Shaquem Griffin highlight reel)

Some actual highlight reels:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6jFL3W1Z7E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MN6PfGB6eA

[Racehorse]

I've never seen him play. Who does he compare to?

Jim Abbott

[Racehorse]

I'm not very good at making those kinds of comparisons. Instead I'll refer you to some tape.
Here he is single handedly wrecking Auburn in the Peach Bowl:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtvdHSsHZXs
(the entire game is basically a Shaquem Griffin highlight reel)

Some actual highlight reels:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6jFL3W1Z7E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MN6PfGB6eAsingle-handedly? I see what you did there.

[smitty46953]

Jim Abbott

Good one for the few who know what you are talking about... Kid is hell of a football player though ... :cool:

[FatDT]

I keep thinking of Jaylon Smith but Smith was better.

[Racehorse]

Good one for the few who know what you are talking about... Kid is hell of a football player though ... :cool:

Abbott was quite the pitcher, too.

[Colts And Orioles]

Jim Abbott










Good one for the few who know what you are talking about... Kid is hell of a football player though ... :cool:












Abbott was quite the pitcher, too.





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To me, Abbott's greatest legacy was what happened at the end of his career in 1999.

Abbott was pitching horribly that season, and he retired shortly afterward ........ and that was ALL that the fans and the sportswriters were talking about. Brewers fans (and their local sportswriters) were annoyed that Abbott was consistently getting shelled, and were calling for him to retire.


When Abbott was a rookie in 1989, everybody was talking about the fact that he only had one arm, and were wondering if the Angels were using him as publicity similar to when Pete Gray played for the St. Louis Browns in 1945. But he pitched effectively for almost a decade in the Major Leagues, and by the time that he retired nobody was talking about (or cared about) the fact that he only had one arm ........ they were treating him just like any other pitcher who was coming upon hard times at the end of his career. And to me, THAT is an outstanding legacy.


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[YDFL Commish]

I've never seen him play. Who does he compare to?

Eric Kendricks, with better instincts and speed. Also reminds me a little of Mike Singletary.